Nerd Rage: My "Feelings" about X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

Nerd Rage: My "Feelings" about X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

There are certain things I can overlook about comic book movies. Overused Cliches are no problem for me, And Continuity is usually no problem for me. No movie adaptation is going to perfect, BUT WHEN YOU F#@& UP AS BAD AS THIS MOVIE IT IS INEXCUSABLE!

Review Opinion
By CBMcontributor - May 03, 2009 10:05 PM EST

Picture this, I walk into my local movie theater with some of my closest friends all ready to see this new flashy Wolverine movie. I, being the most versed in the comic book lore behind Wolverine, was particularly excited for this movie. No it was not to see Wolverine, (they did a good enough job of tell his back story as is in Xmen 1 and 2 IMO) I was freaking stoked to see my favorite Mutant DEADPOOL!!!! I know, I know, this movie was not called Xmen: Deadpool, but the events that happened in the movie are inexcusable.

See my biggest problem with Xmen 3 was scott summers, Charles Xavier and Jean Grey dying. Besides the whole Phoenix things at the end (which my head is still hurting from) they had the balls to kill Jean Grey and Cyclops, and sort of kill Xavier (though the ending we see him put his mind in another person). They were running out of steam in the movie so they just decided "Hey, people are falling asleep, so why don't we have cyclops, who we have made into a whiny pansy, get killed by the psychotic Jean Grey? And then lets kill Jean Gray" This totally kills any other arcs they could possibly use in future Xmen movies! House of M was runined! Colossus was ruined! You basically had to say goodbye Xmen franchise. There isn't one story arc that doesn't involve one of those three people. But at least they killed Jean Gray in an honorable way. Even though wolverine could have just pulled a vaccine out of his pocket.

Enter Xmen Origins: Wolverine. We get a glimpse of Wade Wilson AKA Deadpool. He has a brilliant Action scene at the beginning with his Katanas, and he had some witty banter with Sabertooth (more on him later). That is the Deadpool I know and love. Balk if you will at the casting choice, but I think ryan reynolds would be my number 2 choice in casting (my first would be Brad Pitt, just because he played Tyler in Fight Club. Thats how I imagine the real Deadpool). He was buff looking and he spun his blades and sliced bullets in half. Then he is gone for the rest of the movie when we see him at the end. William Stryker (more on him later) has decided that he is going to make something called Weapon XI that will kill mutants that has all of mutant powers and is under Stryker's control. But who is he going to use this on? Answer: WADE WILSON!!!! They give him an adamantium skeleton, and [frick]ING KATANAS GROW OUT OF HIS ARMS LIKE WOLVERINE'S CLAWS! Plus they did what happens to be the worst possibly thing they could have done to him: THEY SEALED HIS MOUTH SHUT? What is that supposed to be funny? Well you know what is funny? DEADPOOL! In the comic books, Wade is a part of the weapon x program second wave, but the only power they give him is immunity like wolverine. THERE IS however a character that is given all the powers from all the mutant, and do you know what his name is? WEAPON X! Weapon X (aka Garrison Kane) even makes an appearance in one of the early Deadpool solo books. So there was absolutely no reason they had to do that to Deadpool. They turn him into this Lord Voldemort lizard looking piece of crap. And at the end, THEY KILL HIM! THEY CHOP HIS ADAMANTIUM INFUSED SKULL OFF AND THROW HIM INTO A NUCLEAR REACTOR! Which totally takes away the possibility for a spinoff movie, unless they make it happen in the timeline before this movie, but then, they would have to invent another storyline and everything would be even more screwed up. I've heard rumors that there was a super secret after movie ending and it showed Deadpool reattach his head, but the ending I saw showed him in japan. Which means if and when the inevitable sequel comes, we are going to be looking at some Silver Samurai action.

I could talk about the horrible job they did with Deadpool, but again, this was not the Deadpool movie. This movie was all about wolverine and sabertooth.

Like I said before, there wasn't much to learn in this movie they didn't say in X1 and X2. One whole subplot of those movies was for Wolverine to get his memories back! And he did that in the second movie! But the story starts out and we learn that little James Logan grew up in Canada and Figured out he had claws and murdered his real father. Then we get a weird montage where we see him fight in the civil war (Even though he is canadian), WWI, WWII (why couldn't we see him bone claw Hitler in the face?) and 'Nam. While this happens, we meet his brother Victor, AKA Sabertooth. I think they played the antithesis of their relationship the right way. Sabertooth is constantly trying to get Wolverine to turn to the Dark Side. On the subject of sabertooth, Liev Schriber plays the character so 1 dimensional that his lines become instantly predictable. Then Wolverine gets multipe Oppertunities to strike down William Stryker, and his training will be complete but he refuses to and goes to the light side (Cliche Count 1). But then we see William Stryker approach sabertooth and then they form a mutant team! Hooray! We get the best stuff this movie has to offer. We see some kick ass mutant sequences of the Stryker 6 breaking into a African drug cartel's home. Wraith (played by the awesome Will.i.am. Great choice) is constantly warping over people and snapping necks and such. These mutants are cool. It is a shame they didn't have a bigger part other than to be super heroes being picked off to mask a government conspiracy (2). Then, in short, Wolverine wants to leave his life of crime behind and start again in the quit mountains of Canadia (I swear to god they called it that once), and he falls in love in love with a woman, and sabertooth kills her (3). This prompts wolverine to chase after sabertooth. Wolverine gets his ass kicked by Sabertooth in their first encounter (why am I even counting anymore?) and he then approaches the apparent bad guy for the tools to defeat sabertooth, and they inject metal into him, which upgrades his weaponry and makes him even more unstoppable then he already was. The rest of the movie meanders from one action sequence to another, with Mutants thrown in every once and awhile, and somewhat of a plot twist. One part that made me laugh and groan at the same time was a scene with Gambit and Wolverine, and without spoiling too much, Wolverine grabs Gambit (who looks like Sawyer from Lost) and tells him "We have to go back to the Island!". Gambit was probably the weakest actor in the movie. He couldn't maintain a cajun accent, and his delivery was wack!

One more thing that particularly bothered me was this movie was a freaking kill fest. Important people were dying left and right and I'm all for wanton violence, but the amount of cool people killed was just unnecessary. That is the biggest flaw in the Xmen movies. They think it is necessary for important people to die left and right. It starts to get old, and if have no emotional attachment to a character, their death means nothing to us.

After the movie i got up and left, feeling like it just left a bad taste in my mouth. There were some Michael Bay Explosions and lots and lots of cliche dialog. My friends all thought it was so awesome and went to see it a second time today. Which leads to my conclusion: 1. I need new friends and 2. A casual movie goer will love this movie. People who care about Xmen and the various characters in the Xmen universe or just comic books in general, will be very disappointed.

There have been talks ever since X3 about the Magneto movie and the Gambit movie and even a Deadpool movie (fat chance) with the same producing team, which makes me sick to think of the future and what they will do to the Xmen next.

-Adam Waddell (AdamTheGreat91)

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SGA
SGA - 5/3/2009, 10:26 PM
About the Deadpool thing. I saw his ending.

There were two secret endings.

Here's how it happened....

It shows one of his arms w/ the blade still coming out of it. The blade retracts, and the arm is dragging itself to the left side of the screen.

It grabs the side of the head of Deadpool, he opens his eyes and breaks the 4th wall by going "Shh..."

That's the deadpool ending. so there's still a chance for him having a spin-off
CaptainDeadpool
CaptainDeadpool - 5/4/2009, 9:14 AM
you know you guys make it too easy to say this...YOU. ARE. A. LITTLE. COCK[frick]ER....just because the movie wasn't made the way you wanted your gonna bitch..just be glad the movie was made....asshole
BManBWG89
BManBWG89 - 5/4/2009, 9:27 AM
While I agree with some of it, A. If you were such a Wolverine fan, you would know that Wolverine's name as a child is James, not James Logan. Second, as already stated there is another Deadpool ending, so check that out before you complain. Third, the covering of his mouth was because Stryker thought he was annoying. And finally, this movie, I think, presented Wolverine's Origin in the only way that they could market it to people who don't know the backstory of Wolverine. It allows people to understand and then if they want to go and read the comic books and realize how off the movie was, that is their prerogative.
WisconsinCharm
WisconsinCharm - 5/4/2009, 9:27 AM
I agree with CaptainDeadpool none the people who complain will ever be satisfied.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 5/4/2009, 9:28 AM
FOX bent you over and your taking it lol if you loved this movie!!! : D Come on it was a average good Action movie!!! Not a good SUPERHERO movie! It was basically a Soap with Superpowers!!! WOLVERINES one of my favorites! An they made it soooo F'ing sad beyond words! Yes you can look over some things, but there was so many idiot parts that you couldn't enjoy the movie!!! Its lucky most people don't know much about WOLVERINE coz if they did this would BOMB!!! Anyhow im glad its making money, im hoping for a cool WOLVERINE 2!!! WOLVERINE 1 was RUSHED!!! ; )
WisconsinCharm
WisconsinCharm - 5/4/2009, 9:31 AM
The movie could have been worse. the movie could have also been better. But even if the movie was better all u kids would nit pick at all the little things anyways. If you want it done the way you want, go draw your self some stick figures and tell yourself this is how it should have went.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 5/4/2009, 9:32 AM
Ok, i agree about the cliched dialogue but you really mix me up with some points you make here. Which important people are killed in this movie? Bolt was made up for it, Wraith was killed by Sabertooth in the comics too, Silver Fox dies in the comics, Deadpool is not dead as the secret ending reveals..who else?? And Schreiber was 1 dimentional but you liked William as wraith??..Cmon man Liev was the best thing in this movie(aside from Jackman). As for them "making Cyclops a whiny bitch"..im sorry did i miss something in all the years iv been reading X Men comics? He was that way anyway!Plus Jean Grey has died about 5 times in the comics, being killed in comics or comicbook movies means [frick] all, any character can be brought back somehow..X3 wont keep them out of future movies.
loganaspatch
loganaspatch - 5/4/2009, 9:42 AM
well u can calm ur nerd rage Deadpool is not in this movie its a different creature Weapon XI which is in my top 5 of lamest villians ever.
WisconsinCharm
WisconsinCharm - 5/4/2009, 9:51 AM
Stupid question and all you nerd please dont flame me, but in the comics was there a weapon XI and why does deadpool really where the mask? I'm asking this assuming the movie was false.
CRUSH
CRUSH - 5/4/2009, 9:55 AM
Go watch the movie again.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 5/4/2009, 9:56 AM
Nit pick???? How about they should just use the basis of WOLVERINE like no he dont have a brother (sad), No he dont loose his memory over some stupid Adamat bullets (sad), I won't even bother going over DEADPOOL again lmao! End of the day if this was LOTRs OR STAR WARS etc, sh!t would hit the fans!!!! (lol). This and WARZONE i was really both looking forward too the most, and they are both lame! Good action but lame a$$ (plot of a 5 year old) films! ; )
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 5/4/2009, 9:57 AM
NO TA CRUSH LOL!!! : D
TucsonRican
TucsonRican - 5/4/2009, 10:20 AM
I refuse to believe this movie as bad as Warzone.

That was just a waste of talent and money....
007440
007440 - 5/4/2009, 10:29 AM
Dude there is a ending in which is revealed that Weapon XI is a clone of Wade..

Besides If he is not a clone:

IMO, as long as they take away the blades from the arms.. I can live with him having adamantium in him.

I wont mind, you know why? Because Adamantium is signature of weapon X and to be honest is a miracle that the comic Deadpool never got any in him. if they wanted too they could of done it.

So the adamantium in him (ALTHOUGH is not suppose to be there) I could actually live with it as a Deadpool fan.

But the blades out of the arms that has to be gone. Is the only thing I really can't live with, its too much.

We saw the mouth was open at the end, so we know that was corrected, now they need to fix the blades.

They will always take liberties with the characters and I'm actually open to it since there is nothing we can do.. But for the spin off I wouldn't accept the blades.

defeater
defeater - 5/4/2009, 10:43 AM
WisconsinCharm
he wears the mask cause cancer is not great for the face
HARVEYdent86
HARVEYdent86 - 5/4/2009, 10:43 AM
DAMMMMMNNNN Adam! Relax yo vagina!

The movie might not have been the greatest thing since well, uh, the Dark Knight but come on, it wasn't anywhere near a bad film!

Considering it was called X-MEN ORIGINS:WOLVERINE and it was based mainly on him,which u even mentioned that u knew yourself, why on earth are u suprised that there weren't many deadpool, gambit scenes? I'm not gonna go into details about how stupid half your comments are but look at it this way, NO 1 here agrees with u, or fully agrees with u for that matter!

Research yo shit, quotes, comics and info before posting such a LONG, BORING and RIDICULOUS post!
adamant877
adamant877 - 5/4/2009, 10:43 AM
Ror: Bolt actually wasn't invented for this film. The character existed, was introduced in X-Men Unlimited, became a member of the New Warriors, took over the role of Maverick from David North (or Christopher Nord), and got killed by his predecessor (North).
Not bitching, just thought I would share. ;-)
HARVEYdent86
HARVEYdent86 - 5/4/2009, 10:48 AM
Oh and to TucsonRican, yeah, WARZONE was arguably the worst film or at least one of the worst films I've ever seen! Let's hope Dominic West (Jigsaw) gets a Razzie award next year for WORST ACTOR!!!! Man, Tom Jane must be shaking his head in disapproval!
evilash0820
evilash0820 - 5/4/2009, 10:50 AM
Ok forget about all the hyming and haing about what they did to deadpool and everyone else's bitching, what about the horrible screen shots? There were multiple times where the shots just looked really fake. Now I know they can't have the star of the movie walk through fire but they could have done a better job of editing what the end viewer saw.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 5/4/2009, 10:53 AM
WARZONE and WOLVERINE are as bad as each other!!! What we gotta hope for is better MARVEL movies!!! Yes IRON MAN will be awesome but that coz its MARVELS own!!! Damn it seems DC/WARNERS are the gods of cinema again!!! ; )
SHHH
SHHH - 5/4/2009, 10:57 AM
160 million dollars internationally, keep it going, and 80 mill opening day or am i wrong
SHHH
SHHH - 5/4/2009, 11:03 AM
the punisher was protrayed better in punisher war zone than Deadpool was.
yellowtiger
yellowtiger - 5/4/2009, 11:04 AM
Quick question. Did they ever explain how Wolverine got the name Logan and/or when someone first calls him that in the movie?
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 5/4/2009, 11:23 AM
I didnt know that adamant..interesting. But was he the same character? I mean was the Bolt from the movie the bolt from the comic or did they just make up the character and give him the same name like they did with Callisto, Psylocke ect? Either way, my point stands..died in the comics, died in the movie, no biggie
2leftarms
2leftarms - 5/4/2009, 11:31 AM
It's times like these that make think fanboys should left out of the film industry.

You beat this film to the ground because the characters aren't the way you want them to be, but you're willing to excuse cliches and continuity errors? Faithful adaptation are always excellent, but it's a movie first and an adaptation. The makers of this movie have some creative license, and though they may abuse it, their first are foremost goal is to make a good movie. We should get ticked off at the cliches and plot holes if anything. This movie was doomed to fail regardless of Deadpool's treatment because the filmmakers where careless when it came to making a movie that was actually good.

What makes a comic book great isn't necessarily what makes a movie great. We need to adjust as necessary. You've probably seen enough comic book movies to know that if you really want a faithful portrayal, just stick to the damn comics.
loganaspatch
loganaspatch - 5/4/2009, 11:31 AM
i think he adopted the name or prof x aka'd him because howlett the dude got capped in the movie wasnt his real father but the dude that got bone stabbed is his real father and i think his name is logan something

IT WASNT DEADPOOL IN THE MOVIE!! lol geesh it was weapon XI

edit*
"Rose took James and went to British Columbia looking for a place that they could live in peace. Rose remembered her father talking of quarries in the Northern frontiers and she figured that would be a good place for them to start looking. Making it to a quarry, they met a man named Smitty who was the foreman. That is when Rose gave James the name Logan to hide his true identity."

according to http://www.marveldirectory.com
BLADE4040
BLADE4040 - 5/4/2009, 11:51 AM
The Wolverine movie to me was better than all of the X-MEN movies,but to me thats not saying much. I thought the Wolverine movie was O.K.,FAIR,C-GRADE TYPE MOVIE. There was a scene when Striker tells Logan your country needs you and Logan shoots back Im Canadian,but at the start of the movie he fights in WW1&2 with his now brother Sabertooth at his side. I feel that the movie was poorly written I actually liked Sabertooth,Deadpool,and of course Wolverine. Im not sure of what to think of Gambit I know about his cards but I didnt know he was phyiscally enhanced as well. Oh well I know some things has to change for the big screen ,but for BIO made for TV movies to make it more interesting LOL. If you check out some of the most successful comicbookmovies they stick to about 90% of the comicbook storyline :Spiderman 1&2,Batman Begins&Dark Knight,SPAWN,Ironman,and Blade all very successful with fanboys and the general non comicbook fans. Stick with the comics and your sure to knock it out the park but hey those BIG BRAINS that know what we want to see always seem to screw things up with their twisted versions of our superheroe characters. DeadPool if they hadnt screwed with him and if he had more scenes would have been bad a-- ,but the big brains turned him into some mindless,non speaking, weird looking monster with terrible special effects. Ok maybe they'll get part 2 right or whoever they'r going to try a spin-off of.
adamant877
adamant877 - 5/4/2009, 11:55 AM
Ror: It was indeed the same Bolt (Chris Bradley), they gave him credit in the film as referring to him as Chris, as well as the end credits.
At least they did his character that much credit. lol

And yes, your VERY valid point does indeed still stand, with my total agreeance! ;-)
shibazz
shibazz - 5/4/2009, 12:03 PM
No i will not "Just be glad they made the movie"!!!!! I can only imagine how easy it must be to just punk you for your wallet. Hell i could take a country full of your types with a fly swatter and my people dont even like weapons of war, so yeah i think a fly swatter would do nicely. Just be happy? jeesh, grow a pair.
loganaspatch
loganaspatch - 5/4/2009, 12:12 PM
blade no way was this better then X2

NIGHTCRAWLER MOVIE NAAOOO!!!


+1 shibazzz
lowflams3137
lowflams3137 - 5/4/2009, 12:30 PM
Did anyone else get the Apocalyse ending?
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 5/4/2009, 12:50 PM
Your funny @ lowflams3137 @ heh heh
TheJester
TheJester - 5/4/2009, 12:58 PM
ITT: Same bitching, by the same people, spanned over several articles.

Hint: Yes, you're upset. Thanks for letting us all know, more than once.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 5/4/2009, 1:03 PM
BmanHall @ Your in for a shock!
TheJester
TheJester - 5/4/2009, 1:15 PM
you are = you're
ElBeaster
ElBeaster - 5/4/2009, 1:26 PM
I thought that this movie was ok. They messed a lot of stuff up, which is understandable, but it was just too much on some things. But the changes would have been tolerable if I actually thought they had any relevance. I mean Origins and Weapon X are both better stories. Why can't the adaptators just look at the source material for one second and say, "Hey this is better, let's do it that way." instead of, "hey let's just make it generic and overdone."

I could look past the mistakes, but there was a lot more wrong with this movie. The acting was bad(Will I Am especially) in parts, the special effects looked really fake in parts, and mostly it was extremely rushed.

People say that the fans complain too much about movies and sometimes this is true, but usually we have the right. I mean shouldn't we be able to complain when we know that the source material was way better then what they did? We don't want to dislike these movies. If you don't care about how they adapt the movies then I envy you because I wish that I could watch them and be completely unbiased.
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