AQUAMAN -- Are We Starting Off The Right Way?

AQUAMAN -- Are We Starting Off The Right Way?

Aquaman, Aquaman, does whatever an… aqua can. Talks to fish, any size, if only his writers didn’t burn my eyes. Look out! Here comes the Aquaman.

Editorial Opinion
By Ignition - Aug 13, 2014 07:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Aquaman

We’ve recently received some exciting clues about WB’s plan for its big screen DC franchises in the coming years. Nine movies are slated to come out from 2016 to 2020 following Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice and we know many of them. Shazam. Justice League. Wonder Woman. Aquaman. Sandman. I’m pumped and you are too. I’d bet Cyborg, Man of Steel 2 and The Batman are in the pipeline too, though we likely won’t find out about films in 2018 and beyond for some time. Four years is a long time. Long. Freaking. Time. You might be married with 2 kids by then and laughing about how much time you wasted worrying about fictional characters flying around in tights. Okay, most of us won’t be married. But my thoughts on the eye roll inducing flag-planting by studios are for another day.

In the last week, an Aquaman film has picked up the most heat since perhaps the days of Vinnie Chase. Zack Snyder stepped up to the plate to defend Aquaman from the mockery of Detroit radio hosts, in what was likely a planned PR move. A Variety article from June resurfaced, reiterating for the umpteenth time that Game of Thrones actor Jason Momoa would be slipping into the green tights as the king of the seas. And yesterday THR reported that WB is dual tracking the script development by hiring Will Beall (Gangster Squad) and Kurt Johnstad (300, 300: Rise of an Empire, The Last Photograph) separately. So with Momoa set to cameo in Batman v. Superman and taking on a larger role in the Justice League film, it is clear that Aquaman is a priority in DC’s movie universe. Some folks commenting on this recent news are going back to the tired old line of “Wonder Woman still can’t get a movie.” Relax. It’s coming. That character is further along in the universe than Aquaman, as she’ll have more than a cameo in Batman v. Superman. I wouldn’t be surprised to see WW be the second film in 2017 after Justice League (yes, the current scheduling would allow Gal Gadot to appear in both), leaving Aquaman for 2018 or later.
 
Both of these hired writers have a long time to work on this project. Assuming Aquaman won’t be released until the summer of 2018, the film would need to go into production by 2017. That’s at least two and a half years to write. Even if Aquaman is coming in 2017, there is plenty of time. THR actually wrote about dual tracking in reference to secret DC projects back in July, which means that WB may already have writers hired and working on them. I personally don’t have a problem with taking the multiple scripts approach. As THR points out, the same method was used for WB's Tarzan. Two writers developed separate scripts, and the best elements were taken from both. It resulted in something good enough for acclaimed director David Yates to move forward with. I think it shows how much WB wants to kick start other characters besides Superman and Batman. You can write an infinite number of different scripts from the same treatment or set of beats. I also don’t buy for the second the idea that this kind of competition is a negative for the two writers. Millions of unpaid artists fight tooth and nail for the same opportunities as each other, knowing how unlikely it is that they will break into their respective industries with their creative freedom intact. The two guys hired already know what they're getting into.


I have a problem with the fact that WB is going back to two very familiar writers in Beall and Johnstad to get Aquaman off the ground. On the one hand, Chris Terrio (pictured) is a familiar writer that WB loves dearly. He’s now been tasked with writing perhaps the biggest film Warner Bros. has ever taken on. Terrio is an Oscar winner with multiple scripts on the Black List and the respect of some of the best directors in town, including Ben Affleck and David O. Russell. He’s almost above these projects and is the kind of writer that Marvel, Fox and Sony certainly aren’t hiring for their superheroes. That has me very excited about Batman v. Superman and Justice League. Beall and Johnstad pale in comparison. Beall wrote a flaccid Gangster Squad script that never gave the brilliant cast assembled much to work with, as well as a Justice League script that was reportedly no good. We will never know that for sure, but his version was scrapped. [Added note: As user TheDudeRusty points out, Beall adapted his own book LA REX for Scott Rudin, making it to the Black List in 2009.] Johnstad wrote both 300 films and The Last Photograph for Zack Snyder. We all know about those 300 films. The latter project attracted the likes of Christian Bale and Sean Penn. It’s a wartime story set in Afghanistan that would probably be a massive departure stylistically from Snyder’s filmography at the time, so I was curious enough to get a hold of the script. What I read was bleak and draining with its feet firmly on the ground, but interesting enough. As you can imagine, it gives little insight into how Johnstad would tackle something as outlandish as Aquaman.

I want to be clear, again, there is a boatload of time between now and when Aquaman would need to go into production. For all we know, Johnstad and Beall are just being used to develop ideas, much like many of the junior Marvel Studios writers, before a more accomplished writer and/or director steps in. Maybe they are the Goyers to someone else’s Terrio. But is this really where we want to start these new solo franchises? I don’t want any of the individual franchises to become soulless schlock like WB’s Clash of the Titans. I enjoyed Momoa’s work in Games of Thrones and more recently in The Red Road. He has incredible physical charisma on screen and could change the perception of Aquaman. But he still has a lot to prove as an actor. Johnstad, Beall and Momoa don’t seem to be a trio that will demand the attention of a director with strong instincts and a clear vision for the project. I’m not an Aquaman fan (though I never bought into the notion that he was a joke). I’m certain these two writers aren’t either, nor are most writers in Hollywood. The bottom line is that whoever gets the jobs for kickstarting most of these second tier characters are undoubtedly going to have to do a ton of research into the characters. The only thing Johnstad and Beall have over many other, more talented candidates is familiarity with the studio system. Step outside of the bounds!


On a slightly unrelated note, I want to see someone like writer-director Ryan Coogler (Fruitvale Station) take on Cyborg. Maybe we can have a Patty Jenkins (Monster) or a Michelle MacLaren (Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones) direct Wonder Woman. Is that too on the nose? I don’t really give a damn, because they all first and foremost tell great human stories. And if we’re going to have 30 comic book movies leading the blockbuster charge in the next too-small timeframe, we might as well try being progressive. I realize it’s kind of silly to throw out specific names when we have little idea if they would even be interested in this kind of project. I’ve noticed some folks on other websites suggesting Nic Pizzolatto to be involved with Batman. That sounds great to me. But the guy actively despises superhero movies, so there’s no point in even entertaining the idea.

Kevin Feige is right about this: you can always surround a storyteller with people who can help fulfill his/her vision on the technical side if he/she lacks that kind of experience. That’s why Feige can take the guy who made Super and Slither and have him make a space opera like Guardians of the Galaxy. I just want WB to aim higher than they apparently are with Aquaman and to aim higher than their competition. Don’t get someone like Terrio and promptly return to the dregs of the studio. I'm not saying you need an Oscar winner for every project. Just stop recycling writers that repeatedly disappoint. If WB can hire two writers, they certainly have the money to reach higher. And they ought to have the confidence to reach further out after the mega success they had with Chris Nolan. The Aquaman franchise could tell a Shakespearean tale with an environmental bent and marvelous visuals. I would love that. I just don’t think hiring Beall or Johnstad is putting the right foot forward.
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PAF
PAF - 8/13/2014, 7:39 PM
Bruh... you're already dogging this and a director hasn't been announced?
Ignition
Ignition - 8/13/2014, 7:42 PM
Yes, I'm dogging them for their selection of writers. Do they inspire confidence in you?
PAF
PAF - 8/13/2014, 7:46 PM
@Ignition

Not really but I'll give them a chance. MCU has taught us to give people chances and things will work out. WB seems like they're getting their shit together so I'm giving them a chance.
GiantNerd
GiantNerd - 8/13/2014, 7:51 PM
First mistake.

CatholicHoar
CatholicHoar - 8/13/2014, 7:56 PM
@GiantNerd0720
Wow his hair looks like a Tarantula!
PAF
PAF - 8/13/2014, 7:57 PM
What you need to be worried about is Jason Momoa. The only reason everyone is so hype about him is because he was on GoT. Let's not forget this little gem he starred in not too long ago.

Ignition
Ignition - 8/13/2014, 8:00 PM
Absolutely, taking chances is a great thing. That's what I want to see. These two hirings are the opposite of that, though. Beall and Johnstad are known as being studio guys at WB who will take a crack at whatever the next project on the assembly line is.
PAF
PAF - 8/13/2014, 8:03 PM
@Ignition

I honestly just see these two guys writing rough drafts. I think WB will hire someone else as the film gets closer. WB is going to realize they can't play "in house" anymore. They know they need to expand. I think they will.
Axel12
Axel12 - 8/13/2014, 8:16 PM
I feel like this is a good idea, I think WB will take the best of both scripts, get someone better to create a super-script and go from there. As for Jason Momoa, if it's a good script, Momoa will be fine; does he suit Aquaman, the joke of the Superfriends who just chats up fish? No, but he suits King Orin, warrior king of the seven seas.

I could see this turning Aquaman right around.
ScottMontgomery
ScottMontgomery - 8/13/2014, 8:32 PM
I think Jason Momoa will be great as Aquaman, I kinda get the feeling that this Aquaman is going to be heavily inspired by Grant Morrison's JLA and the new 52 Aquaman.

@Ignition Good editorial, really professional. Why do you want Cyborg to get his own movie though? I really don't think that he is a big enough character to carry his own film. I honestly am not even really thrilled that they are putting Cyborg into the DCCU
Emblemmaniac
Emblemmaniac - 8/13/2014, 8:34 PM
@Paf

And while the script was terrible, he was a far better Conan in terms of being true to the sourcematerial and making the role his own then Arnold (Yes i said that) Hugh Jackman was in X-men origins Wolverinne and i don't see people having any problem with him being Wolverinne?

PAF
PAF - 8/13/2014, 8:42 PM
@Insomnia

I stopped after what you said about Arnold.
Emblemmaniac
Emblemmaniac - 8/13/2014, 8:47 PM
@Paf

Let me guess, you think otherwize for the reason that you grove up with the movies? No problem, i grove up with the books and comics wich Jason is more close to then Arnold.
Ignition
Ignition - 8/13/2014, 8:49 PM
@Axel12
I agree about the process of taking two scripts, especially given how far out the movie likely is. I think it will help. I'm just hoping that another writer comes on board or they have a director who is already shaping the process.

@ScottMontgomery
Thanks.
I personally don't care much about Cyborg (or Aquaman) either way yet. There's always a chance for reinvention, maybe they can make him interesting in this take. It's more that I think he will get his own movie. He's supposedly getting a similar launch to Aquaman in BvS and Justice League. I think WB wants to beat Marvel at least in announcing three things: a female superhero (Wonder Woman), a minority superhero (Cyborg) and getting to the underwater world first (Aquaman.) As silly as that sounds, I think it's a great opportunity to make a visually unique movie. Namor probably isn't in the works, but it would be very hard for WB to distinguish Aquaman from him on screen if they came second.

PAF
PAF - 8/13/2014, 9:06 PM
@Insomnia

Lol. Not you spelling like that.
I didn't grow with the film so... bye.
Emblemmaniac
Emblemmaniac - 8/13/2014, 9:15 PM
@Paf

You did not think that that it could prehaps be so that english is not my first language? And, yes, in matter of fact, i did grow up with them (My dad owns the book and some comics and i borrowed them from him, with made me collect Conan comics on my own.

Emblemmaniac
Emblemmaniac - 8/13/2014, 9:20 PM
@Paf and besides. With your logic, Arnold should not have been Conan, since he was most known as Hercules in Hercules in New York at that time( and boy is that a stinker) and not get any jobb after Batman & Robin.
BrowniesExplode
BrowniesExplode - 8/13/2014, 9:22 PM
Why just why are we getting Wonder woman, Victor Stone, a young ass Lex Luthor, and possibly Aquaman in a movie that's basically The Dark Knight Returns. Because WB is rushing their universe trying to compete with Marvel Studios. Work at your own pace Wb. Take Dawn of Justice off the title. Just make a Justice League movie then do Origin movies.
Ignition
Ignition - 8/13/2014, 9:30 PM
You just contradicted yourself. You say they are rushing their universe by having all of these characters in their next movie, but then you suggest that they should start with a Justice League movie.

Absurd. There is nothing rushed about it.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 8/13/2014, 9:59 PM
People should be a little nervous or worried about this project, even if was Namor being made people showed be nervous or worried. Either project is a huge risk due to the hero being from the sea. It is going to take a great story, and a lot of creativity and imagination to pull this off. I hope and pray it works, Mamoa deserves it. I give props for WB/DC for having the guts too attempt this project.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 8/13/2014, 10:17 PM
I'm nervous, sure i'm even terrified of audience's not wanting to see an Aquaman movie. When i told my partner and showed her my comics about GOTG the 2008 team, she made fun of me, she told me who would accept a talking Raccoon with guns and a giant talking tree.

Now, GOTG is a big hit with audience's and females love GOTG more than males which is crazy. I'm sure no one was saying Thor is going to be a massive hit, but it was, Thor was awesome.

WB's is taking it's chance on Aquaman, i know it can work with good writer's that know what there doing. We can worry now but hey it might actually be awesome.
McGee
McGee - 8/13/2014, 10:58 PM
@GiantNerd0720

....What happened to Jason Momoa's eyebrow between that pic and this one?

McGee
McGee - 8/13/2014, 11:00 PM
Whatever happened...I bet Aquaman got it from a god damn Shark.
Ignition
Ignition - 8/13/2014, 11:03 PM
@McGee

He got hit in the face with a glass of beer. Needed 140 stitches and surgery.
McGee
McGee - 8/13/2014, 11:03 PM
Or maybe a bullet nicked his face.

McGee
McGee - 8/13/2014, 11:04 PM
@Ignition

kong
kong - 8/13/2014, 11:05 PM
I hate it when people report rumor as fact. We don't know that Jason Momoa will be Aquaman, that Aquaman will be in BvS or Justice League, or even has two writers!!!!

Assuming that it's true though, I think it's a great idea. They have two writers sitting around doing nothing and put them to work. They'll probably get someone else to take the two scripts, pick the best and rewrite it or take elements form both and make them in to one film. Also Jason Momoa is a great actor and is not why Conan was shit.
Snotzo
Snotzo - 8/13/2014, 11:50 PM
What you aren't excited for a "This is madness" - "No! this is Atlantis!" dialogue in the upcoming film?
EhMaybeSays
EhMaybeSays - 8/14/2014, 7:35 AM
Beall has a script on The Black List as well. Also the MCU has had their share of mediocre writers who have succeeded.
Ignition
Ignition - 8/14/2014, 7:54 AM
@TheDudeRusty
Noted and added to the article, thanks. He adapted his own novel based on his experiences as an LAPD detective.
matthuliz
matthuliz - 8/14/2014, 10:20 AM
The 300 movie got a solid script. It's better than the comicbook. There really is no reason to worry.


:-P

MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 8/14/2014, 12:27 PM
@MightyZeus that is exactly how my wife reacted when I first told her about GotG, then confused with the original team being from the future. She said and I "...i think Marvel has gotten a little cocky, I love you babe but I think Marvel went too far.." She of course is eating crow. With the right script, cast, vision, and creativity anything can be pulled off.
Ignition
Ignition - 8/14/2014, 3:16 PM
@Nubase

There is no way Terrio is the chief writer of the DCCU. Dude has other aspirations. He's not a fanboy like Feige or Snyder or Goyer or Whedon.

As for the announcement, they may announce the movie this month but I think they'll wait to announce Momoa.
supermanlives
supermanlives - 8/15/2014, 9:28 AM
Literally nothing about this movie sounds good, they got one bad writer and another mediocre talent. Jason Momoa isn't a bad actor but he hasn't give a single performance that inspires any hope that he could pull this off.
staypuffed
staypuffed - 9/2/2014, 2:33 AM
I am not a fan of Momoa at all, so it's not off to a great start for me.
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