"We're In Good Company": Feige & Whedon On Being Accused Of 'Ruining Hollywood'

"We're In Good Company": Feige & Whedon On Being Accused Of 'Ruining Hollywood'

Earlier this year, one of Hollywood's hottest topics was the debate over CBMs and the apparent issue of 'superhero fatigue'. Now two of the genre's most successful contributors have answered some of the complaints from their critics. Check out what they had to say!

By Minty - May 04, 2015 01:05 PM EST
Source: Rolling Stone

Despite combining to create one of the most beloved franchises in movie history, Marvel's Joss Whedon and Kevin Feige have recently found themselves at the receiving end of a bit of criticism regarding Hollywood's so-called 'superhero fatigue' problem. In a recent interview with Rolling Stone to promote Age Of Ultron, the pair sat down and addressed some of their critics' concerns...

Kevin Feige, upon being asked about whether superhero films are "ruining hollywood":


"Well, I will say we're in good company. If you look through the decades of people who've been accused of that. Star Wars ruined Hollywood, Steven Spielberg ruined Hollywood — I'll be in that company any day of the week.

"But the truth is, we don't spend a lot of time looking at that stuff because we're too busy trying to make the movies. I haven't been involved in a project that's been nominated for an Independent Spirit award, but I imagine those people put all their blood, sweat, and tears into it to try to get it done. That's exactly what we do over here every single day."



Whedon seemed to take the criticism in good humor, while building on Feige's earlier comments:

"They don't have the Hulk. The Hulk wants to do more independent stuff. It's just his agent… The Marvel paradigm is new and is being copied by a lot of people, because it worked. But they're being blamed for something that happened long before comic books became the basis for a lot of these blockbusters."

"As for whether the paradigm will sustain itself or whether or not people will get sick of superheroes, who knows? Sure, I could stand to make a movie where guys don't have to be sewn into their outfits. That would be fun. But a lot of vitriol has come Kevin's way and Marvel's way. I think perhaps that is misguided."



Feige concluded the interview by responding to a question many people have been wondering about - when he thinks the superhero bubble will pop:

"As soon as there are a bunch of them that are terrible, that's when it will end. I don't believe in the superhero-movie genre. With Guardians of the Galaxy, we wanted to do a big space movie; with Ant-Man, we wanted to do a heist movie; Winter Solider, we wanted to do a political thriller."

"I'm more entertained by all of those kind of movies when there's superheroes in the middle of them, so that works out for me. But, I do believe and hope that that's what we'll continue to sustain, at least the ones we're responsible for. The other ones we have nothing to do with – and we go see them when they come out on opening weekend."



Many casual moviegoers and comic book fans have found the criticsm that these two (and their colleagues over at DC, Fox etc.) have received to be somewhat unfair. Here, I felt they addressed the complaints very well. But what about you? What did you think about the Marvel duo's comments. Let us know your thoughts below!
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MrBlackJack
MrBlackJack - 5/4/2015, 1:31 PM
MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 5/4/2015, 1:31 PM
Ruin it more.
Humperdink
Humperdink - 5/4/2015, 1:33 PM
Feige & Whedon Accused Of 'Ruining Hollywood'

CombatWombat
CombatWombat - 5/4/2015, 1:34 PM
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Nice little addition.
blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 5/4/2015, 1:34 PM
It's becoming too crowded for CBMs. You'd be a fool to think the bubble will never burst. Just look at July 2018:

July 6 - Black Panther
July 13 - Another X-Men movie
July 20 - Animated Spider-Man movie
July 28 - Aquaman

The general audience isn't going to go to the movies every weekend to see this shit.
Nickk
Nickk - 5/4/2015, 1:35 PM
dexter gonna have fun with this thread @MrCBM good luck surviving this thread
ColonelSanders
ColonelSanders - 5/4/2015, 1:35 PM
This is well said by feige. Great way to look at it.
BlackPhillip
BlackPhillip - 5/4/2015, 1:35 PM
Poor butthurt indy guys.
CombatWombat
CombatWombat - 5/4/2015, 1:36 PM
Nice response by Feige and Whedon though. I'm not always impressed by Marvel adhering to their formula, but saying they're "ruining Hollywood" is seriously pretentious.

Almost as pretentious as Alejandro González Iñárritu calling superhero films "cultural genocide."
ColonelSanders
ColonelSanders - 5/4/2015, 1:36 PM
As long as they make money they'll keep making them.
phaserface
phaserface - 5/4/2015, 1:36 PM
A good movie is a good movie, superhero or not.
Humperdink
Humperdink - 5/4/2015, 1:37 PM
I'm so confused about the very accusation.
It just sounds like sour grapes.

It's an embarrassing complaint.
PAF
PAF - 5/4/2015, 1:37 PM
Damn he deleted his twitter.
pesmerga44
pesmerga44 - 5/4/2015, 1:38 PM
Shit has been said like this well before Marvel Studios was even an idea. People think that only now do we have shit movies like Transformers that rule the box office. The thing is throughout the history of cinema there have been shit movies coming out to the screens. People are so short sighted and always forget that there have always been shit movies and great movies will continue to be made.
hufflepuff69
hufflepuff69 - 5/4/2015, 1:39 PM
If theyre ruining Hollywood then lets [frick] some more shit up! 💪
Ineedrevelation
Ineedrevelation - 5/4/2015, 1:41 PM
I always find if funny that people in Hollywood complain about cbm's ruining Hollywood but if it wasn't for them, no-one would be going to see movies anyway.

Television has totally surpassed movies right now and the only thing holding them up is Marvel essentially.

No one is going to see Will Smith's Focus movie.

People are tired of Tom Cruise's Mission Impossible.

They keep hiring the same shitty writers/directors for shit films and complain about Marvel. How does M. Night Shamshamflimflam keep getting a pass and making films? they keep making Shit for some reason and want to blame CBM's. Why?

Hollywood has always been it's own worst enemy and this time is no exception.
phaserface
phaserface - 5/4/2015, 1:42 PM
And to me ruining Hollywood is coming out with garbage movies that do nothing for you . Not funny not witty not insightful or thoughtful . Just bland garbage . Like " Tammy " or that movie the heat or the third hangover
Ineedrevelation
Ineedrevelation - 5/4/2015, 1:42 PM
Who's the asshole rebooting the Crow?

That's the guy ruining Hollywood.

Kill that guy.
phaserface
phaserface - 5/4/2015, 1:42 PM
Also the red dawn remake
XMenMarvelFan
XMenMarvelFan - 5/4/2015, 1:45 PM
Look... the bubble WILL burst on this comic book movie genre at some point. And as someone who has been reading comics since they were 7. When I look at the upcoming slate of comic book movies I'm like "This is just way too [frick]ing much."
Pasto
Pasto - 5/4/2015, 1:45 PM
If it wasn't for Feige and Whedon, hollywood would suck.
blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 5/4/2015, 1:46 PM
@dio

You're actually making me cheer for Ovechkin.
XMenMarvelFan
XMenMarvelFan - 5/4/2015, 1:47 PM
For me I decided to ONLY see certain comic book movies when they release. For example I will see anything FOX put's out. I will see only a couple MCU movies on release. And I'm game for JUST about whatever DC/Warner.Bros puts out.
DerekLake
DerekLake - 5/4/2015, 1:47 PM
@blackandyellow I didn't realize those CBMs were coming out that close to each other. If anything, it means smaller box office numbers for all of them, and certainly more competition between the studios.
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 5/4/2015, 1:48 PM
No Hollywood is ruining Hollywood!!!!!

Remakes of old movies...............

Dirty business dealings.........

Taking advantage of starving actresses and actors........not mention the minors.

StreakOfBlue
StreakOfBlue - 5/4/2015, 1:49 PM
Wat even.
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