AVENGERS: SECRET WARS Rumor May Explain How Movie Sets-Up The X-MEN - Possible SPOILERS

AVENGERS: SECRET WARS Rumor May Explain How Movie Sets-Up The X-MEN - Possible SPOILERS

Earlier today, Kevin Feige confirmed that the events of Avengers: Secret Wars will lead directly into a "new age of mutants" in the MCU, and we now have some rumored details...

By MarkCassidy - Nov 20, 2024 08:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Secret Wars

Previous rumours have claimed that the events of Avengers: Doomsday and Secret Wars will lead to a "soft reboot" of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and there's been a lot of speculation that this reset will facilitate the introduction of the X-Men.

We have seen some characters from the 20th Century Fox era in the MCU already, but the likes of Charles Xavier (Sir Patrick Stewart), Beast (Kelsey Grammar) and Wolverine (Hugh Jackman) all appeared in alternate Multiverse timelines.

Earlier today, Kevin Feige spoke about Marvel Studios' plans for the X-Men during the opening of the Disney APAC Content Showcase in Singapore.

"I think you will see that continue in our next few movies with some X-Men players that you might recognize. Right after that, the whole story of Secret Wars really leads us into a new age of mutants and of the X-Men."

According to scooper MTTSH, this will be accomplished by the creation of "a new universe where Mutants/X-Men have always existed in the MCU."

If accurate, this wouldn't exactly be a huge surprise. We have seen several reality-warping events in the MCU at this stage, most notably the "Blip" (or Decimation) caused by Thanos and Tony Stark's reversal in Avengers: Endgame.

Secret Wars is believed to bring multiple characters and timelines together, so it's reasonable to assume that an attempt to stop the Incursions from, say, the Scarlet Witch (in a kind of reverse House of M move) could result in the creation of an entirely new MCU.

If this is how the X-Men/Mutants are to be introduced, how would you feel about it?

Avengers: Doomsday arrives in theaters on May 1, 2026, followed by Avengers: Secret Wars on May 7, 2027. Both films will be directed by the Russo brothers, who also make their MCU return after helming Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Captain America: Civil War, Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame.

"Being able to create stories and explore characters within the Marvel Universe fulfilled a life-long dream of ours, and we discovered a powerful connection with audiences in each film that we made. We’re thrilled to collaborate once again with Kevin, Lou and the entire Marvel team to bring this epic adventure in storytelling to new and surprising places for both the fans and ourselves”, said The Russos in a statement after the SDCC panel.

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Gambito
Gambito - 11/20/2024, 8:05 PM
MyTimeToShine GO TO [frick]ING HELL!!!
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 11/20/2024, 8:08 PM
I really love Jackman, I really love most of the original X-Men cast. But I really hope this isn’t a shoddy way of them bringing those actors into this universe without having to recast them. I want a brand new X-Men team, with a brand new original X-Men cast.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/20/2024, 8:42 PM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - agree , I hope that’s not the case either…

I love Jackman & co but they had their time so it’s best to bring in new blood now which I think they will do.

I think this is just a way to bring those characters into the MCU and not the actors
LogansRazor
LogansRazor - 11/20/2024, 8:10 PM
So looking at his words and not the scoop, he says in the next few movies X Men players will pop up. So we will get some people before the soft reboot.


And also, DC seemed to have an issue with telling the fans they rebooting, and ppl lost interest in the movies...is the same happening with MCU? If they introduce a few characters (or Madripoor for example), why care if they might disappear in the new MCU??
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/20/2024, 8:22 PM
@LogansRazor - depends on how much they reboot

I don’t expect the changes to be anything more then the integration of the FF and mutants coming into existence.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 11/21/2024, 3:35 AM
@LogansRazor - The problem with DC is that they rebooted twice (Joker and The Batman) and yet went back to the DCEU (and back to the Joker universe) afterwards.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 11/21/2024, 3:38 AM
Every DCEU movie after Joker underperformed whereas the DCEU movie before Joker (Aquaman) made a billion dollars.

After The Batman, every DCEU movie plus the Joker sequel flopped.

If they had kept the same universe and if that universe had been good then they announced that there would be a reboot after The Flash movie, I really don't think that would have affected the outcome. If anything that would have made things more exciting because people would want to see how this universe ended.

People love endings to long running franchises. That's why Endgame did so well. That's why a lot of cheap horror franchises always put 'final' or 'last' in the title, to bring people out. Same logic as to why comics kill off major characters. People suddenly show up when they think it's the last one.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 11/21/2024, 3:40 AM
Knowing that Marvel are gonna reboot will not effect Doomsday or Secret Wars in the same way that it seemed to effect The Flash. Those movies will be huge.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 11/20/2024, 8:13 PM
Once again, it's that ultra reliable journalistic news source MTTSH.

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OriginalGusto1
OriginalGusto1 - 11/20/2024, 8:28 PM
@Feralwookiee - [frick], that's on hot .gif.
OriginalGusto1
OriginalGusto1 - 11/20/2024, 8:28 PM
one*
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 11/20/2024, 8:33 PM
@OriginalGusto1 - Yeah. She's a looker all right.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 11/20/2024, 8:13 PM
Mind blown.... NOTTTTT. Stupid f*cking rumors from this clown.

Anyways I take it we'll see a few Xmen in Doomsday then see a bunch more in SW. Pretty sure we all knew that but good to hear lord Fiege confirm.
JobinJ
JobinJ - 11/20/2024, 8:20 PM
RDJ as Doom is so lame
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 11/20/2024, 8:24 PM
Well I guess it’s time to integrate the old FoXmen into the MCU huh?
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 11/20/2024, 8:24 PM
It's pretty obvious how they are going to handle it.

1) The MCU (MSheU) is in desperate need of a reboot since Marvel fumbled the ball on their properties in Phase 4.
They should have scaled back to only street-level heroes (Spider-Man, Shang Chi, Luke Cage, Daredevil, Punisher, etc.)

2) RDJ is most likely going to play the Tony Stark version of Doctor Doom from Earth 11029. And I think either another variant of Tony Stark will be drawn in for the Secret War. That alternate Tony Stark may end up being the new MCU Tony Stark and the RDJ Tony Stark will also make an appearance but choose to go back because he has obligations in his own universe. Or....the Tony Stark Dr. Doom will have a change of heart when confronted by the Real Dr. Doom.

In my opinion Dr. Doom should have been introduced as a result of the events after The Snap where there was a void in world leadership and he rises to power.

3) The X-Men will of course be brought in via the Secret War and will seek out other mutants that exist in the current Earth (which Marvel calls 616 but is actually supposed to be Earth 99999 because 616 is the Comic book Earth.

In my opinion, their could have been some mutants already but the Reverse Snap caused the DNA to reassemble through the power of the Infinity Stones and that caused some people to develop the X-Gene which then increased the population of Mutants.

The Avengers could have caused....The Multiverse....The rise of Dr. Doom...The rise of Kingpin (after Ronin took out so many crime bosses)...The rise of the mutants.

Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 11/20/2024, 8:40 PM
I really hope there's a culling in this movie. Preferably 616 natives biting the dust, but if they choose to off Fox studio and sony variants, I won't complain. There's too many heroes roaming around. Doom need to kill at least more than 2.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/20/2024, 8:41 PM
I mean , that’s been the theory more or less so not exactly a scoop lol.

Regardless , I’m cool with them explaining mutants in the MCU this way (this’ll likely be how they integrate the FF aswell).

The MCU is so far in now that it’s gonna be hard to explain a phenomenon like mutants emerging now without any reason
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 11/20/2024, 8:44 PM
It's simple. Battleworld will be an amalgam of the best aspects of each universe after they collide together. One universe where a fully formed X-Men team exists will merge with Battleworld along with Earth 616 and so on. Loki, Scarlet Witch, Kahorri, and other Infinity Beings will come together and create an illuminati of sorts to create the one true rebooted universe of which rebooted actors will coexist with prior actors whom choose to remain and reprise their characters. This will allow "The New Marvel Cinematic Universe" to have Fantastic 4, Guardians of the Galaxy, X-Men, and The Avengers coexist on the same Earth.
elcapitan
elcapitan - 11/21/2024, 1:53 AM
@SonOfAGif - exactly. They also have some wiggle room with recasting stark, rogers and natasha, if they want to bring any of them back. Maybe an ultimate version.
elcapitan
elcapitan - 11/21/2024, 1:54 AM
@SonOfAGif - i wonder if inhumans will also exist
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 11/21/2024, 3:48 AM
@SonOfAGif - And there'll be no confusion because it's right there in the story in Secret Wars.

Take not DC, this is what you shoulda done with The Flash.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 11/21/2024, 3:49 AM
*note
BruceWayng
BruceWayng - 11/20/2024, 8:46 PM
So why introduce Adamantium in CABNW if you’re just going pull the X-men over from another universe. Marvel either has something really special planned out with Secret Wars and have a full game plan for after that saga ends OR they are completely lost and just throwing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks

What an absolute shitshow they have created for themselves
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 11/21/2024, 3:50 AM
@BruceWayng - It's better than calling it unobtainium or something. Also they needed an excuse to upgrade Sam's Cap, since he has no powers.
AC1
AC1 - 11/20/2024, 8:46 PM
There are already mutants in the MCU, why would they need to rewrite reality specifically to introduce the X-Men?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/20/2024, 8:48 PM
@AC1 - besides Kamala , who else?.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 11/20/2024, 8:50 PM
@AC1 - To explain their absence in every MCU Crisis thus far.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 11/20/2024, 9:17 PM
@TheVisionary25 - wasn’t Wanda and Pietro insinuated to be mutants, that’s why they were the only two to survive being enhanced by the stone?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/20/2024, 9:20 PM
@WruceBayne - I think so but in terms of Wanda , you could retcon that because of her magical ability
AC1
AC1 - 11/21/2024, 6:54 AM
@TheVisionary25 - I think they mentioned that Namor is a Talokan Mutant in Wakanda Forever. Not sure if they say Mr Immortal is a mutant in She Hulk as well.

We definitely haven't seen many of them but they are out there, so there really isn't any need for this whole "rewrite the universe to bring them into the MCU" theory that's been going around for years when it would be just as easy to say there just aren't that many mutants and the ones who are out there have been in hiding, been imprisoned and experimented on by groups like Weapon X, maybe their powers hadn't manifested yet. Treat them like they were an urban myth or a conspiracy theory or something, and then when we get an X-Men movie it's about them being revealed to the world for the first time.
AC1
AC1 - 11/21/2024, 7:05 AM
@KennKathleen - we haven't seen Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Punisher, The Eternals, Namor, Blade, Yelena Belova, Red Guardian, Moon Knight, or Werewolf By Night involved in any of the big Avengers-level events in the MCU so far even though it's been established they would've all been active at least by the time of Infinity War if not earlier. Plus look at how Endgame showed us a different perspective of Avengers 2012 and that The Ancient One was actually defending the Sanctum Sanctorum during the invasion while the Avengers were defending the rest of the city.

We just haven't seen what the rest of the mutants have been doing in the MCU until now. It doesn't mean they don't exist. As I said in my reply to @TheVisionary25 - they could be in hiding, they could be being experimented on, they could be on the other side of the world, there might just not be that many of them yet. There are plenty of options that could work.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/21/2024, 7:05 AM
@AC1 - you are right about Namor and I don’t think it’s ever specifically stated how Mister Immortal got his powers but they could later say he was one too

I do like that idea but I feel like a mass phenomena like that would require explanation
DocSpock
DocSpock - 11/20/2024, 9:01 PM

here we go....

6 bazillion bogus how the X-Men join the MCU rumors incoming.

There is no way Feige would reveal one iota of info on this before he's ready.

RolandD
RolandD - 11/20/2024, 9:22 PM
It seems clear to me from the statement that Feige made that we may see some of the Fox men in the next movie or two, but after that, it will be the new age of mutants, so I am expecting new actors playing the mutants we saw on the Fox movies as well as many that we did not see in the Fox movies.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/20/2024, 9:32 PM
@RolandD - agreed though it might not even be Fox Men

The next few movies are Captain America ,Thunderbolts & FF and I don’t see multiverse shenanigans happening in the former 2 so it could be we get supporting cast members from those comics like Henry Peter Gyrich or Senator Kelly etc.
RolandD
RolandD - 11/20/2024, 9:39 PM
@TheVisionary25 - True. If we see any more Fox Men, I think it would one or both of the next two Avengers movies.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/20/2024, 9:44 PM
@RolandD - yeah , I think so too
FrankenDad
FrankenDad - 11/20/2024, 9:23 PM
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ElJefe
ElJefe - 11/20/2024, 9:36 PM
Anyone reading this? I’m enjoying it. Reminds of an 80s storyline. The art is freaking so clean and cool, though. It’s the real show stopper.

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