AVENGERS: ENDGAME Writers Reveal Why Captain Marvel Played Such A Minor Role In The Movie

AVENGERS: ENDGAME Writers Reveal Why Captain Marvel Played Such A Minor Role In The Movie

Brie Larson's Captain Marvel didn't receive anywhere near as much screentime as we expected in Avengers: Endgame, & now the movie's writers have explained why they decided to limit her role in the sequel.

By JoshWilding - Sep 06, 2019 05:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Endgame
Source: Vanity Fair
Heading into Avengers: Endgame, there was a lot of speculation about the size of Captain Marvel's role in the movie, and now writers Stephen McFeely and Christopher Markus have shed some light on why they decided not to give the powerful hero a larger part. As expected, it ultimately boiled down to the fact that she's so much stronger than Earth's Mightiest Heroes. 

"Well, she was always going to be in it but we didn't have much to go on," Markus explained. "They had cast her and that was it. It is a tough balance to strike when you have a character that powerful who you're going to bring in, and you don't want it to seem like, well we just brought in this person who can clean the house that we couldn't clean in the previous movie."

"So, we had to decide on a balance between not making it feel like a cameo but not having her around so much that she solved all of the problems for everybody,"
he added.

McFeely went on to say that one of the biggest issues is that Captain Marvel's powers means she had the potential to too easily fix all of the team's problems. "It also wasn't the point of the movie, the point of the second movie was saying goodbye to the original six Avengers, so their stories were gonna be way up here. It was not fair to the other six Avengers to have Captain Marvel come in and solve all their problems, it didn't seem like good storytelling."

It's easy to see where they're coming from here, and with no solo movie to look at and the fact that pretty much everything the team did in the past and present would have been too easy with Carol Danvers around, no one can blame them for putting her on the sidelines. 

However, it's hard not to wonder what this might mean for her role in future Avengers movies!

Hit the "View List" button to check out more Avengers: Endgame
reveals from a recent Q&A with the Russo Brothers!

Steve Rogers' Return To The Present Day

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At the end of Avengers: Endgame, Steve Rogers returns from the past as an old man who clearly decided to remain behind in order to live his life with Peggy Carter. While fans have theorised that he grew old in the MCU's timeline and then just made sure he was in the right place at the right time to meet with his friends, it wasn't quite as simple as that according to the filmmakers. 

"You are correct in that he would have had to have worn the quantum suit, using a pym particle to make the jump," the Russos explained. "He's not wearing the suit on the bench, because that is not the exact moment to which he returned." So, Cap had been back in his timeline for at least a little while, which means there's still a story here for Marvel Studios to explore. 
 

Some Rapid-Fire Questions, Answered

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Was Captain America ever going to wear an Asgardian-like suit of armour? "Cap's shield is armor enough." Was the time-jump always going to be part of Endgame? "Yes." Did Infinity War ever not end with The Snap? "No." How did the directors make such a seamless leap to blockbusters?

"Action has been a favorite genre of ours for our entire lives and we had been planning on making an action movie for a while before we found Winter Soldier," Anthony explains. 
 

Why Black Panther Was The First To Return

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In Avengers: Endgame's standout "Portals" scene, Black Panther is the first to appear as he steps onto the battlefield with his army in tow. Why, though, was T'Challa chosen as the first one to return? 

"We spent a lot of time in the edit room playing around with the sequencing of the portals," Joe explains. "We probably didn't lock that section of the movie until about a month before the film was in theaters. We always wanted Sam to be the first one to communicate with Cap via his comm and Sam was last in Wakanda, so logically the first portal that would open would the Wakandan portal."

"And the first person that would logically walk through a portal from Wakanda would be the king himself, bringing his army once again to the defense of Cap and the world."

 

Why James D'Arcy Appeared As Edwin Jarvis

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One of Avengers: Endgame's biggest surprises came when Agent Carter star James D'Arcy made a very brief cameo appearance as Edwin Jarvis. That's the first major movie/TV crossover we've seen in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, so why did it happen? "Because we love James."
 
"Also, because Markus and Mcfeely were instrumental in engineering that show," the directors continued, "and because I directed one of the episodes. It seemed appropriate."
 

Why Did They Cut The Scene With The Avengers Taking A Knee?

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The Avengers: Endgame deleted scene featuring Earth's Mightiest Heroes taking a knee following Tony Stark's death has got fans talking in recent days, so why didn't it make the final cut? 

"We found the Avengers kneeling scene incredibly emotional as well, but when played in the run of the film, it felt incredibly similar to the moment when all of the heroes stood on the shore at Tony's funeral, paying their respects to him outside his home," they explained. "The two scenes, when in the film together, seemed to fight one another, and created a repetitious ending."
 

The Mystery Surrounding The Soul Stone

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Heading into both Infinity War and Endgame, there was a lot of speculation about the secrecy surrounding the Soul Stone. It was the only Infinity Stone we hadn't seen in the MCU up until that point, and when the filmmakers were asked about the inspiration for those Vormir scenes and whether it was always the plan to keep the Soul Stone a mystery, Anthony revealed the following.

"For the centerpiece of Vormir where you retrieve the stone, we referenced ruins that were used for human sacrifice as an inspiration," the director revealed.
 
"The choice to keep the soul stone out of the storytelling wasn't entirely ours, any of the other Marvel storytellers could have gone to that stone at any opponent. But, we were thrilled that the stone had remained a mystery in the MCU and that we were able to use it for such a surprising purpose."
 

Captain America Has Always Been Worthy

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Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige was asked this same question during his own Reddit AMA and said that Captain America made a conscious decision not to lift Mjolnir in Avengers: Age of Ultron.

As you might expect, the Russos agree. "He always could," Anthony confirms. "Our interpretation of the famous scene in Ultron was that when he realized he could pick up Mjolnir he quickly chose not to, because he didn't want to embarrass Thor." Whether Joss Whedon had that in mind at the time is hard to say, but it's a cool explanation and an awesome moment in the movie. 
 

How The Russo Brothers Landed The Job

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Captain America: The Winter Soldier was a hit, but the Russo Brothers were still working on Captain America: Civil War when Feige asked them to take the helm of the next two Avengers movies.

"Kevin, and co-president of Marvel Studios, Louis D'Esposito, asked us to swing by their offices while we were in post on Civil War," the Russo Brothers explain. "The conversation, in short, was, "Guess what. We want to make the two biggest films ever made and we want to shoot them back to back. And we want you guys to direct them." Our response -- "F**K yeah."
 

Do The Directors Ever Argue? 

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Joe and Anthony are both brothers and filmmaking partners, so you have to believe that they've had the occasional argument. Well, based on what the latter has now said, it sounds like the process is a fairly straightforward one! "Film at its essence is a collaborative art form and that process begins for Joe with our partnership," he explains.

"There this thing known as the mastermind principle that says two minds are not doubly better than one they're exponentially better than one. And when we disagree its generally whether we want Indian or Italian for lunch." That's a pretty good way of doing things, and it's clear that they'll be remaining a team for a long time to come.
 

Why Tony Stark's Death Had An Impact On Them

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The Russo Brothers have been lucky enough to get their hands on pretty much every major character in the MCU, but when they were asked which stands out as their favourite, Joe explained why the way things panned out for Tony Stark has stuck with him on a very personal level. 

"At this point we have been involved with just about every characters arc in the MCU. But in respect to all of the characters that aren't Cap, I think Tony's arc is incredibly tragic and unquantifiably heroic."

"As a father myself, contemplating the notion of being presented with the choice of saving the universe at the cost of losing your life, and knowing that your child would lose their father, and that your wife would lose a husband, is painfully difficult to comprehend. It's a choice that only the greatest amongst us could make."

 

How The Disney/Fox Merger Could Have Changed The Movie

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The Disney/Fox merger means that Marvel Studios now has access to all the characters from the X-Men and Fantastic Four franchises. Had that happened sooner, it would have changed both Infinity War and Endgame in a huge way and when they were asked about the impact they think it would have had, they say we would have seen "Double the amount" of heroes. Whoa! 
 

Captain America's Reunion With The Red Skull

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We never got to see Captain America's journey into the past,which means we were robbed of the opportunity to finally see Steve Rogers reunite with his old WWII foe, the Red Skull. 

"It was probably more awkward than you imagine it was," Anthony says when asked how that meeting might have gone. "Red Skull felt slated because Cap didn't recognize him."
 

Will We Ever See A Director's Cut Of Avengers: Endgame?

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Avengers: Endgame was three hours long as it is, but we know for a fact that some footage ended up on the cutting room floor as Katherine Langford's scenes were nowhere to be found. But before you start campaigning for the "RussosCut," the directors want you to know they're happy with it as it is. 

"Honestly no, we have always released the version of the movie we wanted to, so you would never see a director's cut of a Russo Brothers' Marvel movie because you have already seen it," Anthony confirms after being asked if they would ever want to release an extended cut with more footage. 
 

Was The Hulk Always Responsible For The Second Snap?

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In the movie, The Hulk uses the Infinity Stones to bring back the people Thanos killed, and his arm is left horribly burned (and seemingly useless) as a result. Now, Anthony has confirmed that the Jade Giant was always going to be the one responsible for undoing Thanos' attack on the universe in Infinity War. "[It] was always going to be the Hulk," the director reveals.
 

Now They're Done With Marvel, Which Franchises Are Next For Them?

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For the time being, the Russo Brothers are finished with the MCU, and while we know from Comic-Con that the filmmakers are going to be busy elsewhere, which other franchises are they interested in exploring? After all, you have to believe that they can do whatever they want after Endgame! "Interesting question. We are quietly, and secretly working on one right now..." they tease.

Here's hoping they end up heading to a Galaxy Far, Far Away or something similar, eh? 
 

Thor Was Stronger Than Ever In Endgame

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One Redditor asked the directors if Thor was weaker in Avengers: Endgame's final battle than in Infinity War or whether his worthiness meant he had returned to his normal power levels.

"The difficult road that Thor's traveled ultimately gave him strength," Anthony confirms. "He was stronger than ever by the end of Endgame." In other words, Viking Thor is a legitimate badass!
 

Will The Russos Bring Wolverine To The MCU?

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It's hard to imagine the Russos not returning to the MCU down the line, and they've said on numerous occasions that they would like to bring Secret Wars to the big screen. Asked which superhero movie not currently part of the MCU they would most want to take the helm of, Anthony responded by singling out one fan-favourite mutant. "We've always loved us some Wolverine."

That would obviously be amazing, but there's nothing to say it will actually happen!
 

How Long Did They Know About Iron Man's Fate?

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It's been pretty obvious for a while that Robert Downey Jr.'s time as Iron Man was beginning to wind down, and while some fans hoped to see him become Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. or something similar, the decision for Tony Stark to make the ultimate sacrifice was decided upon fairly early one. 

"We knew for about three years before we shot the film," Joe said, referring to the hero's demise.
 

Are There Still More Easter Eggs To Discover?

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Now that Avengers: Endgame is out on Blu-ray, we're going to be able to pore over every single moment in order to hunt for Easter Eggs. The question is, are there more to find? "Yes."

Time to get hunting... 
 

What Was Their Most Difficult Day Of Shooting?

Stark


Avengers: Endgame was a lengthy shoot and it can't have been easy to bring that and Infinity War to the big screen. However, when asked which day stands out as being the most difficult, they quickly responded with "Tony Stark's death."

We know that was shot on the final day of production so the Russos clearly saved the trickiest and most emotional scene for last, and it's hard to blame them. 

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soberchimera
soberchimera - 9/6/2019, 5:37 AM
She's OP and she had shit to take care of in space, this has been established dozens of times.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 9/6/2019, 5:52 AM
Where was Goose?

Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 9/6/2019, 6:36 AM
@regularmovieguy - what’s the life expectancy for a Flurken?
Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 9/6/2019, 6:01 AM
I know it's not intended this way, but it feels like she was just put in the film cause Feige demanded it be so. Cause aside from the stuff at the VERY end with the final fight she really didn't need to be in the movie at all. I really just hope Marvel find a way to make her character better cause as of two movies she's my least favorite marvel hero.


I don't dislike her, but she hasn't really earned her cocky attitude in my eyes yet. Especially in that scene in endgame Hopefully in CM 2 they will get writers and directors who will know how to make her more likeable.

Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 9/6/2019, 6:11 AM
@Mrcool210 - You don't "earn" a cocky attitude, you just have one. Part of Carol's character is that she's a bit of a loose cannon and has no problem letting her fists do the talking.

Funny out exactly the same character traits have made Wolverine a fan favorite, but when it's a surly stand-offish blonde with a chip on her shoulder, suddenly people find her "unlikable".

Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 9/6/2019, 6:24 AM
For the record, that's not me calling you a misogynist personally, or anything. Much more that we live in a culture where expectations for women's attitudes and men's attitudes are seen through different lenses and that we've all internalized it to some degree or another.
Radders
Radders - 9/6/2019, 6:31 AM
@Spock0Clock - The difference I'd say is that Wolverine has some charisma and charm, nothing to do with gender.
Radders
Radders - 9/6/2019, 6:37 AM
@Mrcool210 - To be honest I think she's superfluous at the end of the film too - she does nothing that other characters shouldn't be able to do - Thor can destroy ships as he did in Infinity War and they had Doctor Strange who was sidelined - nothing seemed to happen with that water spout! A post snap, gamma irradiated Hulk could have gone toe to toe with Thanos - and who wouldn't have liked to see him have that moment! She really serves no purpose in Endgame.
Origame
Origame - 9/6/2019, 6:05 AM
Im still firmly believing they cut her role shorter. You dont set a character up as being a main player then barely use her otherwise. She just wasn't as popular as they hoped.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 9/6/2019, 6:06 AM
No surprises here. Black Panther got a very minor role, too. Strange and Ant-Man bridge the G1/G2 divide a bit, and got a bit more to do, but there will be plenty of time for Carol and T'Challa to shine.
SpideyPuffsMJ
SpideyPuffsMJ - 9/6/2019, 6:08 AM
I've been putting off watching her solo at home all this time. I saw it once in the theatre. But I think if I watch it again I'm really gonna dislike it. It was meh the first time, I hope they change directors and don't use the same people just because it made money. Felt like the most generic vision-less Marvel movie since like Phase 1.
Heroic
Heroic - 9/6/2019, 6:15 AM
How many more times will this be a topic for an article?
Imfunnyhow
Imfunnyhow - 9/6/2019, 6:16 AM
(To me) most of her scenes felt forced. Her movie felt forced. Basically Marvel pandering to movements of the day. DC is doing the same as well with Wonder Woman but (to me) it is more enjoyable and easier to get behind and to celebrate because it was not as on the nose.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 9/6/2019, 6:28 AM
@Skennedy -
She kind of did that though... proving that Endgame was not good or satisfying storytelling.

She destroyed the main enemy ship, managed to get the Gauntlet through an entire army by herself and then proceeded to be able to go toe-to-toe with a complete Gauntlet wearing Thanos.
Imfunnyhow
Imfunnyhow - 9/6/2019, 6:32 AM
@KingCipher -
Well if you think about it Wonder Woman is ahead. She was in BVS and had a solo flick and one in the tank ready to go. Harley just had a sharing role in SS. so far and working on another shared role. Diana has a leg up on her
Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 9/6/2019, 6:37 AM
@Spock0Clock - I understand that a character doesn't always necessarily "Earn" a cocky attitude. And I know other characters like Iron Man and wolverine have traits like that as well. However I guess the difference for me is that those characters have shown over their respective movies that they kind of have a reason to be as cocky as they are yet were still able to show scenes of vulnerability and being able to see them as more than a big gun essentially.





Carol has done so cool things sure. Her final fight in CM was cool and it was cool to see her take down thanos ship in endgame. But she hasn't really had a moment yet where she has shown that not only is she super duper powerful but she's also a person who can have an emotional moment like a moment of sadness or having some fun. (aside from one very brief scene in CM with her being sad after learning about the kree, but we needed more scenes like that).




It's similar to the Superman situation in Justice Leauge, I know a lot of people prefer him now but I preferred the vulnerable superman. And now in that movie he was just used as a deus ex machina to beat the villain, something Carol was in both the movies she's appeared in.



Give me scenes similar to the cave for Iron Man or that opening scene in the Forrest for logan in the wolverine And I'll probably end up liking Carol more.Cause I do like her movie, I like it's message about how humanity can be strong cause we can keep picking ourselves up. (Weirdly the same message as Green Lantern) But She does need to go that little extra mile.

I don't dislike her at the moment, but I'm really hoping that after CM 2. She'll be up there with some of my favorites.

Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 9/6/2019, 7:05 AM
@Mrcool210 - (I'm stealing that rainbow gif, by the way. It's mine now.)

I've compared Captain Marvel (the movie) to X-Men Origins: Wolverine before, because I think both movies are poorly-conceived, structurally-similar prequels that don't play to their main characters' strengths. Captain Marvel is a better movie in a lot of little ways and doesn't carry the baggage that Origins did of a character that had already been well-established, but they have similar issues.

So, I don't blame well-intentioned people for not being fully onboard the Carol train yet, honestly. There are some rough edges that need to be sanded off, and a scenes that crystallize her character more effectively, absolutely. But from my perspective the pieces are all there.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 9/6/2019, 7:10 AM
"and a need for future scenes that crystallize"
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 9/6/2019, 6:44 AM
The recently crowned CBM queen got as much time in the movie that was organically necessary.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 9/6/2019, 6:46 AM
It amazes me that they seeded this big "save everything" narrative at the end of Infinity War, the end of Captain Marvel and the beginning of Endgame and basically used Carol and an entire year of build up to sucker punch you with Thanos destroying the stones.

Marvel's long game can be a little too transparent sometimes, but taken without that context it's [frick]ing crazy
Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 9/6/2019, 6:54 AM
@KingCipher - And those scenes you bring up are great. But aside from the sad scene she still has that "look at me I'm cocky" kind of attitude and look on her face. The scene in logan is him still being fully vulnerable, he's not acting like he's the coolest character in the room. Carol still kind of is with that smirk on her face in the dinner scene and the discussion with Fury.

But you are right there were scenes like that, and good ones, especially since when Carol and Fury were on screen together that was when the movie is at it's best. So I concede I made a mistake. My apologies.



Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 9/6/2019, 7:31 AM
@Mrcool210 - Keep in mind that Logan is the 7th major appearance of the actor in that role, and has the benefit of 20 years of emotional attachment and nostalgia, and it's a movie entirely built around revealing the previously-cocksure snarky Wolverine as a sad impotent man in decline. The movie was built up around that scene and theme. Those walls mean something when they come down because they've been up so long.

If Carol (or Logan) were broken down like this in their first appearance, it would have all the emotional impact of Thor 1 or Man of Steel (i.e. not much). Instead, we got to see how strong her walls really were. We got to see her toughness. So, in the future, if we see her truly vulnerable, it will mean more.

Captain Marvel (the movie)'s big emotional turn isn't ultimately about Carol's vulnerability (and that's one of the reasons why I don't think that scene posted above really works all that well), it's about her resilience and liberation. She's been manipulated and she gets revenge.



She's only a whole person again after this point. And there's some catharsis in smashing the faces of the people who abused her. That's one of the major differences between Captain Marvel (the movie) and X-Men Origins: this movie was a defining moment for Carol that will set the stage for her story going forward rather than bullet amnesia erasing any meaningful parts of it from his development as a character. In that respect, it works.

This is finally actually Carol Danvers. And it's the same Carol we get in Endgame, (and likely the one we'll see get torn down and reshaped by narrative forces in the future, because that's how these things tend to go).

knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 9/6/2019, 7:04 AM
@PlusUltra - "The recently crowned CBM queen"

you mean ticket sales not quality movie wise right ? because if not that would still go to WW at this point...
LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 9/6/2019, 7:08 AM
@Origame

So you're telling us that Marvel reworked their biggest film in little over 1 month because she wasn't popular enough?



If that was the case there would no doubt be noticeable holes where she would have been, there were literally no scenes in Endgame where she was needed and wasn't there.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 9/6/2019, 7:12 AM
@knocturnalzen10 - The quality of both movies could be debated to the end of time because there isn’t a set way to measure quality, so it’s irrelevant. What can’t be debated is though is who is currently carrying the biggest female-led superhero franchise in the world on their shoulders, and it’s not Wonder Woman.
knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 9/6/2019, 7:30 AM
@PlusUltra - that isn't realistic as well . if we're looking at both companies .... there's a vast difference at this junction till DC gets it's act together ... i get you have a preference but the claiming biggest female lead film franchise is scaling something not balanced at all .... to say she's the CBM queen, she would need to have a better film in general than WW, outside of the continuity of MCU engine . she can't be the Queen CBM if she's pig-backing off a world trending franchise. WW did well right after that hot garbage they call BVS ....
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