HULK: Avengers VFX Supervisor Jeff White Goes BTS

HULK: Avengers VFX Supervisor Jeff White Goes BTS

There's no question that the Hulk steals the show in Joss Whedon's The Avengers, and in an interview conducted by MTV the film's visual effects supervisor, Jeff White reveals some details on exactly how that's happened.

By EdGross - May 11, 2012 05:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers
Source: MTV

"It was important to deliver on the performance that Joss was looking for," White offered as explanation. "He knew exactly the Hulk he wanted to bring to the big screen. All of the great moments Hulk has in the film was Joss really guiding us there."

An important element in bringing the Hulk to life was having actor Mark Ruffalo wear a motion capture suit, thus creating a greater connection between actor and CG counterpart. The decision to do so was made by Whedon early on. "He wanted to see Mark Ruffalo in the design," said White, "and that was great for us, because that means we could work with Mark."



A great deal of time was spent capturing all physical elements of the actor, with White and his team doing a "life-cast" of Ruffalo. "So starting every shot from something real, we could then capture that performance and apply it to our Mark Ruffalo digital double, and make sure we were getting the right performance to translate onto the Hulk. That's where an amazing amount of animation has to come in, in order to get that same performance from Mark onto the Hulk."



As to why there has been such a connection the Hulk, White credits it to good decisions made throughout production when it came to the character, most notably his belief that, from the outset, Whedon had clear-cut ideas on the kind of action from the Hulk that people would respond to. "That shot of him slamming Loki was in there right from the beginning," he offered as example.

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StrangerX
StrangerX - 5/11/2012, 5:40 AM
Loved watching Banner and Stark getting their geek on!
marknjoanna
marknjoanna - 5/11/2012, 6:40 AM
thax for helping marvel in putting a savage beat down on dc.good job.
Fogs
Fogs - 5/11/2012, 6:49 AM
Hulk and Banner were the best thing IMO.
slyjason
slyjason - 5/11/2012, 7:05 AM
@blackandyellow
i think on the ship, it wasent his choice to turn into the hulk...it came upon him without his control, so he could not control it.
Later he makes a choice to turn...so he is in control from the start...
SWelch
SWelch - 5/11/2012, 7:05 AM
@blackandyellow It was beause if you remember just before he changed on the ship he was arguing with the Black Widow and the others. so when the ship was attacked he was still partially angry at the SHEILD and in particualr with the Widow for bringing him there. And when It was at the battle at the end he excepted what he needed to do and his anger was directed at the aliens. As Tony told him he needed to lose control a little and take comtrol of the Hulk to use in a postive way.
Xeriath
Xeriath - 5/11/2012, 7:07 AM
@blackandyellow and @iLoveMarvelAndDC

It's actually not a flaw. It's because Loki was controlling Banner during the incident on the Hellicarrier. When loki first walks by Banner with the guards he gives him a evil smirk and Banner takes off his glasses and sort of looks down and blinks a bit. (I believe this is because Loki has entered his mind messing with his thoughts/emotions) Shortly after that in the scene where everyone is arguing with Fury, you see Loki's scepter begin to glow and Banner then grabs it. Black Widow even tells him straight up "Loki is manipulating you" That's why he was extremely hostile with everyone during that sequence.
CaptainFlan
CaptainFlan - 5/11/2012, 7:09 AM
@BlackandYellow, my reasoning was that on the Helicarrier, he was under stress from Loki's influence and even after being blown out the window of the Wishbone Lab, he was trying to suppress the event, his eyes, they were pleading with Natasha to LEAVE, that's why he was out of control.

When he shows up in NYC on that dinky bike, he's embraced it, much like Stark had been telling him. When he Hulked out, he chose to; the transformation was quick, smooth, painless, and Banner was in charge.. to a degree, hence the cheap shot to Thor after taking down a Leviathan.
IronDean2099
IronDean2099 - 5/11/2012, 7:09 AM
On the helicarrier, he gets blown up and trapped under rubble, obviously this distresses him and he turns into 'angry hulk'. At the end when he reveals his 'secret', he's making a point that when he accepts the hulk and willingly embraces the transformation instead of fighting it, he transforms with a much clearer head and is able to control the hulk. People need to stop whining about this.
nordberg
nordberg - 5/11/2012, 7:12 AM
@blackandyellow/ILoveMarvelAndDC:

Loki was influencing Banner/Hulk and the rest of the team. The heated argument before Hawkeye's raid got Banner primed and when the explosion in the lab dropped he and Widow through the deck, he was set off like a bomb. Cap said as much in his one on one with Stark shortly after the attack.
StrangerX
StrangerX - 5/11/2012, 7:13 AM
@blackandyellow-I never really thought about it much I thought it was loki controlling him
opencurtain
opencurtain - 5/11/2012, 7:15 AM
The reason why this Hulk was better was because he was smaller and more personable than previous Hulks he also was closer in appearance to the jack Kirby Hulk the perfect mix .
SuperSomething616
SuperSomething616 - 5/11/2012, 7:20 AM
easily the best hulk and banner yet...
Xeriath
Xeriath - 5/11/2012, 7:24 AM
@blackandyellow


Yes. That's exactly what I believe happened.
Kayo
Kayo - 5/11/2012, 7:40 AM
definitely the best HULK
BlazinTexan
BlazinTexan - 5/11/2012, 8:12 AM
how did loki controlling banner go over so many peoples heads ?
dahamma
dahamma - 5/11/2012, 8:19 AM
yeah i mean Loki was Controlling the Hulk? Whats so hard to get about that?
StrangerX
StrangerX - 5/11/2012, 8:19 AM
@blazin- they were so amazed by the movie, trying to comprehend it was too much.
incredibleTalk
incredibleTalk - 5/11/2012, 8:20 AM
Hulk was a real hero in this movie....not a hunted beast like the other films.He is the ultimate bully to Loki......puny god!
marknjoanna
marknjoanna - 5/11/2012, 9:15 AM
the movie was set to where if loki touched them with the staff he had full controll over them.

but loki has always messed with peoples minds from day one,but didnt have full controll of them like the spear gives him.

i think im starting to understand how dc keeps the few fans it has,marvels over their heads.
SupermanReturns2
SupermanReturns2 - 5/11/2012, 9:18 AM
@StrangerX: You're totally right about Stark and Banner getting their geek on: I found that a hilarious piece of writing... Also in regards to Banner Hulking out and everyone's fears on the helicarrier, they were 30,000 ft in the air also.
Banner had begun practicing his Hulk-outs at the end of TIH.
Lastly, cool of Wheddon to have Banner reference the deleted scene from TIH where he attempted to shoot himself.
incredibleTalk
incredibleTalk - 5/11/2012, 9:38 AM
Loki is such an idiot...by killing Agent Coulson...he did what he worked so hard to stop...brought the Avengers together!Puny God!
incredibleTalk
incredibleTalk - 5/11/2012, 9:41 AM
@MrChuff..so right..why people still asking that same question..if anyone slept through this movie..you don't deserve an explanation!!
incredibleTalk
incredibleTalk - 5/11/2012, 9:44 AM
Did you notice that..the guard that asked Banner if he was an alien after he fell out of the sky was an actor from the original "Alien" movie. The second person to die trying to find a stupid cat!!!
GreyChaos13Zero
GreyChaos13Zero - 5/11/2012, 10:28 AM


"puny god" I loved that scene but I spoiled it before I watched it, tho I didn't know he was slamming Loki?)
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 5/11/2012, 10:32 AM
The only gripes i had (which were very very minor because i thought Hulk was fantastic) is that the seemd a little to ape-like at one point (would have preferred a little more of the silent badass thing from TIH) and that his skin wasn't AS good looking as in TIH which looked a bit better IMO. But on the face alone this version takes the cake overall
Duhdaduh
Duhdaduh - 5/11/2012, 11:06 AM
what ruffalo says in the interview is so true, so many nerds bitched about him playing the part, and now that they actually have an oppurtunity to base their judgement on something real, they say he's the best part of the movie, smh @ fanboy freakouts -________-
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 5/11/2012, 11:53 AM
THATS MONEY IRON MAN..YOU DO A SUPERHERO FILM YOU ARE BANK.
valeriesghost
valeriesghost - 5/11/2012, 12:02 PM
@kevberg

I noticed that Hulk is a little chubby the first time he transforms. Its been a while since he's Hulked out so this makes sense. Later in the movie, during the last action scene, Hulk is a lot more cut and a lot less chubby. I wonder if this is what you are seeing with Hulk in the movie. Just my thoughts
energyrami
energyrami - 5/11/2012, 1:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZEvtdVQNbs hi comicbookmovie could you please put this as a news headline took a whole day making it i'd really appreciate it thanks
energyrami
energyrami - 5/11/2012, 1:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZEvtdVQNbs
eleven59
eleven59 - 5/11/2012, 2:09 PM
Surprised no one mentions the part where stark is trying to poke banner into hulking out lol
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