Joss Whedon Looks Back At Nick Fury's Pivotal Role In MARVEL'S THE AVENGERS

Joss Whedon Looks Back At Nick Fury's Pivotal Role In MARVEL'S THE AVENGERS

Joss Whedon, director of billion dollar hit Marvel's The Avengers, discusses the important role that Nick Fury played in bringing the team together, going into detail about the shadier side of Fury and S.H.I.E.L.D. we caught a glimpse of during the film.

By JoshWilding - Jul 27, 2012 11:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers
Source: Comic Book Resources

In an interview with Comic Book Resources at the San Diego Comic-Con earlier this month, Joss Whedon discussed both Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season 9 (that can be found by clicking on the link at the bottom of the page) and Nick Fury's "Machiavellian" approach to assembling Earth's Mightiest Heroes in Marvel's The Avengers. This was somewhat controversial with fans, although his duplicitous actions were arguably justified in that he was eventually responsible for getting the team to come together by themselves, as Whedon describes below. Check out the interview here and be sure to sound off with your thoughts in the usual place!



On the movie side of things, I'm going to be the twelve billionth person to tell you this weekend that "The Avengers" was great, it was so much fun, I saw it twice. I took my mother. She laughed and then she was confused about things, then she laughed again.

[Laughs] That's sort of what it was like to me. Funny, I didn't really know what was going on.

Well, one of the threads that really struck me as I was watching the film is that all the Marvel movies ended up being a play on this idea of militarization of technology and that we have something that's introduced into the world and we have opposing sides trying to weaponize it in some sense. Your really seemed to want to take that thread in some sense and kind of run -- not unknowingly -- but just a facet of the world and push it essential to the conflict. What for you made that a story that worked for these extraordinary characters coming together.

Well, I didn't really think about it in terms of what they had done for the other movies, except as useful to me. I didn't think about it as a thematic thread, I thought, "Oh, this is a piece I can use is that they're interested in this stuff" -- because why wouldn't they be? The idea that they were going to weaponize the cube, for me, was about playing more of the reality in terms of "The Ultimates" or "The Authority" -- that kind of thing where -- or Straczynski's book --

"Rising Stars?"

Yes. No, it's not "Rising Stars."

Oh! "Supreme Power!"

Yes, sorry. Sorry, J. Michael. But they all deal very poignantly with the reality of "Superman's here and he's in a bad mood. What do we do? We're humans! We've got nothing. We're in trouble." To lay that on the table was such a perfect thing for this because it made Fury seem Machiavellian, but I think he's totally right. I mean, absolutely they need to protect themselves. There's aliens now. Thor's an alien and he's stronger than us. It brought up issues that would help everybody's point of view coalesce and it would also help separate the Avengers from S.H.I.E.L.D., which is the other really important thing -- making sure that people didn't think, "Oh, it's a group that these guys run." It was very important for them to kill daddy in order to become their own grown-up family. That's the other thing that I like to raise. Fury even knew that. He knew he had to get them together as a team and then take himself out of the equation.







Marvel Studios presents in association with Paramount Pictures Marvel’s The Avengers--the super hero team up of a lifetime, featuring iconic Marvel super heroes Iron Man, the Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America, Hawkeye and Black Widow. When an unexpected enemy emerges that threatens global safety and security, Nick Fury, Director of the international peacekeeping agency known as S.H.I.E.L.D., finds himself in need of a team to pull the world back from the brink of disaster. Spanning the globe, a daring recruitment effort begins.


STARRING:

Chris Evans as Steve Rogers/Captain America
Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark/Iron Man
Chris Hemsworth as Thor
Jeremy Renner as Clint Barton/Hawkeye
Scarlett Johansson as Natasha Ramanoff/Black Widow
Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner/Hulk
Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury
Clark Gregg as Agent Coulson
Cobie Smulders as Maria Hill
Tom Hiddleston as Loki

RELEASE DATE: September 17th, 2012 (UK) September 25th, 2012 (US)


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toco89
toco89 - 7/27/2012, 11:33 AM
Nothing new. Including Sam Jackson playing Sam Jackson with an eyepatch.
Talontd
Talontd - 7/27/2012, 11:34 AM
I thought that aspect of the film was handled wonderfully... I truly can't imagine a better 1st outing for THE AVENGERS...
Talontd
Talontd - 7/27/2012, 11:36 AM
@toco

No SAM JACKSON was playing Ultimate Nick Fury who was modeled after.....wait for it......SAM JACKSON!

Grab a comic book.
BooYah
BooYah - 7/27/2012, 11:47 AM
I didn't have a problem with Sam Jackson's Fury.
UncleJimmy
UncleJimmy - 7/27/2012, 11:47 AM
I like ultimate Nick fury more than 616. he seems less generic...imo
I like the tuskegee esque origin too...
GoILL
GoILL - 7/27/2012, 11:54 AM
@VenomSpawn lmao.
TheGambitFreak
TheGambitFreak - 7/27/2012, 11:59 AM
[frick]!I wanna see footage or a leaked script, or concept costume designs for Thor and Cap 2!
Talontd
Talontd - 7/27/2012, 12:00 PM
@Venom

Not really. He was leveling that statement as a critique, when in actuality, that was EXACTLY how the character should have been portrayed. Not once did Sam say MOTHERFCUKER or go into one of his epic shouting monologues...

...he was simply playing a bad@ss. It's not his fault that he himself IS a bad@ss ;)
toco89
toco89 - 7/27/2012, 12:21 PM
Jackson doesn't always say mother[frick]er, which didn't cross my mind at all.

They could've gone so many directions with his character considering its almost a completely blank template. Yet they went with the old trash talking, condescending, overly agressive character who wants you to know without a doubt that he's in charge.

See that can be understood as criticism. But yeah, it was a critique.
RamonSuarez
RamonSuarez - 7/27/2012, 12:51 PM
Whedon is a genius.

He just unwittingly created the context for Marvel to launch Phase Two in their cinematic universe by highlighting the question of what happens to our mundane planet when the world's governments find out that aliens and mythical gods actually do exist and are ready to take over our planet.

Phase Two will deal with the rise of even more crazy technology, cosmic threats, and extra dimensions. Of course all of this is eventually leading to a place where artificial intelligence, nanotechnology, inter-dimensional travel, time travel, intergalactic travel, etc. is possible to the point that society will turn on heroes ala "Civil War".

TheBigBoss917
TheBigBoss917 - 7/27/2012, 1:02 PM
Oh awesome i really appreciated Sam Jackson's "pivotal" role in The Avengers it really made the movie just like he did in the Star Wars prequels...
DoomXfactor
DoomXfactor - 7/27/2012, 1:55 PM
@Norsegod- BY THE GODS!!!
BlanketMan
BlanketMan - 7/27/2012, 2:11 PM
Fury's last few lines are among the best in the movie. "The whole world knows... EVERY world knows... Because we'll need them to." Great stuff! Loved him in The Avengers!
googleplex
googleplex - 7/27/2012, 2:35 PM
I felt he was underused. This movie already had each avengers member explained but not any member of shield (except black widow). I know their explained in the comics but who are they in the context of the film?
OtakuPapi
OtakuPapi - 7/27/2012, 2:56 PM
I watched The Dark Knight Rises today with my girlfriend for the first time.Awesome ending but the rest of the movie put me to sleep.So many plot gaps and even less character evolution. As we watched all we could say is that...it should've been a two part ending so the story couldv'e developed. Batman Begins...bored me beyond belief...The Dark Knight Amazed Me Beyond Belief(It's fresh everytime i watch it) The Dark Knight Rises we a epic task failed.Bale's Batman sucks, he has no aptitude for fighting at all, and his Bruce Wayne was lackluster.Joseph Gordon-Levitt was much more engaging. But this is about Joss Whedon...The perfect epic film.I don't know how people can compare The Dark Knight Rises to it, it's apples and oranges.The Dark Knight Rises is a drama, i felt like i suffered through everything but the last 4 minutes of it!
siggisuperman
siggisuperman - 7/27/2012, 3:29 PM
Both Nick Fury's are cool but I prefer 616 for my comics. Ultimate Nick works better in the movies.

For Avengers 2 I think people in the government will start to worry. The same people who want Tony to hand over his armor, are scared of Thor because of the damage caused by Loki who is also Asgardian. They will also want to contain The Hulk. They might want superhero registration, which might lead to a Civil War between superhero factions. Tony might go over to their side. Not letting them take the armor but registering as a superhero, I mean he has no secret identity anyway.

This might all be phase 3 though
kemuael
kemuael - 7/27/2012, 3:38 PM
I like Sam portrayal of Nick Fury as far as i see it Nick Fury is Samuel Jackson, just like Tony Stark is Rodney Downing Jr.
testamentsol
testamentsol - 7/27/2012, 3:50 PM
@OtakuPapi You my friend have given me hope tht not all ppl are freaking retards!! I felt the exact same way about Dark Knight Rises!! Movie was boring as hell!!! I am shocked so much ppl are in love with this movie, its almost scary!!
EarOne
EarOne - 7/27/2012, 4:01 PM
there WB, joss's given you a heads up..if you wanna do a JLA movie, look at jms's Supreme Power. we will come.
OtakuPapi
OtakuPapi - 7/27/2012, 4:05 PM
@testamentsol: Honestly i think people are afraid to say it out loud, because most people have conformed to the idea that Nolan is some kind of comic book movie God. The movie lacked depth, watching it i realized how much Heath made The Dark Knight! The twist at the end was really good but it didn't validate all the b.s. and story build up. I am dumbfounded by people saying Anne's depiction of Catwoman was so great, they didn't even give Bruce and Selina time to truly develop a relationship. A 8 year gap...really! And Bruce was a cripple and recluse... that all of a sudden decided to fight crime again.Hold up! Bane broke Batman then all of a sudden after being broken he come's back and beat's Bane.Really! I hear people on this site talk about the realism Nolan brought to the Batman brand, DKR was a fail.
SupermanReturns2
SupermanReturns2 - 7/27/2012, 4:47 PM
@ Yoss & Norse:

SunSp0t
SunSp0t - 7/27/2012, 9:11 PM
Best CBM EVER!! Dear God that girls ass is huuuuge!
UltimateHunt
UltimateHunt - 7/27/2012, 9:21 PM
Avengers is just the best CBM ever! And the most succesful CBM to date. Everything on it its just huge! From fan love to critics to the action pack to enjoyable film etc....Avengers is just number 1. They leave 2nd best to others (TDKR)
RexDartEskimoSpy
RexDartEskimoSpy - 7/27/2012, 10:36 PM
I agree with kemuael - Tony Stark IS Rodney Downing Jr. I hope Tony Stark keeps playing Rodney Downing Jr for years to come.
ComicBookGoth
ComicBookGoth - 7/28/2012, 10:01 AM


Talontd
Talontd - 7/28/2012, 11:25 AM
@Yoss

Dear god!!! Who is that??? Jada Stevens?
CaptainTumeria
CaptainTumeria - 7/29/2012, 9:05 AM
Nothing wrong with Samuel L. Jackson playing Ultimate Nick Fury; he's a natural choice. But I would have preferred seeing Delroy Lindo play the part. As BA as Jackson is, he's his own entity (kinda like Bruce Willis). When I saw him on that screen, I saw Samuel L. Jackson instead of Nick Fury; it was kinda hard to get past that.
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