Joss Whedon Shares More On The Avengers

Joss Whedon Shares More On The Avengers

Screenwriter & director of The Avengers shares much more on the moral of the story; Addresses the Nathan Fillion 'Ant-Man' rumor. Check it Out!

By DCMarvelFreshman - Jul 24, 2010 07:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers
Source: Io9



It seems now that Joss Whedon has confirmed himself to directing the much anticipated Avengers movie, hes more comfortable with discussing the film that unites some of Marvel's mightiest heroes.

While working the press line at AMC's From Dusk Till Con, Comic Con party, Io9 got the chance to ask Whedon just what he plans to do with The Avengers - specifically with the complicated relationship between Tony Stark and Iron Man...And the possibly for the Civil War storyline. Watch the interview below, and read the full transcript lower.



The JJ and the Joss panel was great. How does it feel to finally be able to talk about The Avengers and have that off your chest?

It is a great relief, to actually just go ahead and say, "I have a problem." To come out to people and say "I'm directing the Avengers." And the first step is admitting it, and hopefully I'll be cured, in two years.

You know what the big rumor is now? That you admitted at the Joss Experience that Nathan Fillion was Ant-Man. Is that true?

No that was a joke. Unfortunately there is no such thing as sarcasm at Comic Con. That's why I explained that he's not actually Ant-Man - although by the way I think he would be great - Ant-Man does not appear in The Avengers. I just like to play with Nathan. And if you ever get a chance to ask him to do his Ant-Man audition, you will not be disappointed.

I'm really excited about your vision for The Avengers and how it's really a broken family...or a family...
Broken is okay.

Is there any way you could expand on that just a tiny bit for us?
It just really just goes back to the very first incarnation of The Avengers. It goes to The Ultimates, it goes to everything about it. It makes no sense, it's ridiculous. There's a thunder god, there's a green "ID" giant rage monster, there's Captain America from the 40s, there's Tony Stark who definitely doesn't get along with anybody. Ultimately these people don't belong together and the whole movie is about finding yourself from community. And finding that you not only belong together but you need each other, very much. Obviously this will be expressed through punching but it will be the heart of the film.

Are you tempted to pin [play with] the Civil War with Captain American and Iron Man against each other?
You know Civil War comes from what's great about the dynamic between them. And so does The Avengers, they definitely are at odds. But it's not a Civil War thing because it existed before that, at least in my mind. They are two very different definitions of a person. One is a self-made man, a modern man, a rockstar. The other is a World War 2 grunt, just trying to do his part. They couldn't have more different views of the world. That will just end up in fun. It ended up in Civil War in the comics, in my movie it will be witty banter.



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DaenerysTargaryen
DaenerysTargaryen - 7/24/2010, 7:29 AM
Quickly somebody ask Nathan to do his antman audition! ;)
OverCross
OverCross - 7/24/2010, 7:32 AM
He replaces Antman with a moral?

What does he think he's doing?
superotherside
superotherside - 7/24/2010, 7:51 AM
i don't mind antman not in the film... he can come in avengers 2 he's not a big thing... pun intended... well giant man is but then u guys just want antman...
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 7/24/2010, 7:52 AM
LOL: I've posted this comment in two articles already but since this seems to be the topic of the day I'll re-post it.

More than a year ago Fiege ran down the list of who The Avengers are and it was the original Avengers. After listing the originals he said he didn't know yet who else would show up on the team. There isn't a doubt in my mind that the Pyms will be in the movie.

Just because some yakadoo from Marvel said that Ant Man isn't in the movie, doesn't, by any means indicate that Hank Pym will not be. Weren't there reports that Edger Wrights Ant Man movie would feature Scott Lang?

I would bet that Pym will be in the Avengers as either Giant Man or Yellowjacket (which is his superior persona) with indications that he has already moved on from his Ant Man guise.

This would give us a more versitile version of Pym in The Avengers and segue nicely into Scott Lang being Ant Man for his own film. =}
iconstatic
iconstatic - 7/24/2010, 7:57 AM
LOL, he said "it goes to the Ultimates".
I think somewhere, poor Lee just punched a baby. :P



@Hawksblueyes
Yes. Edgar Wright has repeatedly said his movie would be about Scott Lang, and I THINK he said the initial idea would be to have Pym be the original Ant-Man who passed on the mantle to Scott.
CaptainAmerica
CaptainAmerica - 7/24/2010, 8:00 AM
I guess you guys havent figured out that films will never be 100% like the comics they are based on. Films are always gonna change things up, and it doesnt mean itll suck. Just ask the Giant Squid how he felt about not being in the Watchmen film.
ElBicho
ElBicho - 7/24/2010, 8:00 AM
There's always room for Fillion in his own Ant-Man movie, then Avengers 2!
imnotwearinghockeypants
imnotwearinghockeypants - 7/24/2010, 8:04 AM
Joss Whedon. Gross. "Hey Joss Whedon, my name is Grant Morrison, and I just set the X-Men up perfectly with an incredible story arc that could go in so many awesome directions. I hear you've got writing duties from here on in. Looking forward to seeing where you take it." Joss: " Yeah, that's great and all George, but I'm thinking I'm just going to blow up all the awesomeness and hard work you injected into the comic and introduce some bullshit space alien retardation, to go along with my vastly superior intellect on dealing with angst and zits." Wonderful.
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 7/24/2010, 8:05 AM
FifthSun
FifthSun - 7/24/2010, 8:06 AM
But he never said there wont be any Giant-Man or Hank Pym, so there's still possibilities.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 7/24/2010, 8:12 AM
I hope you're right HAWKS because I'll be gutted if Hank and Jan aren't on the team! ;( I have a horrible feeling right now though that they're going to wait until the Ant-Man movie to establish the characters in order to introduce them in The Avengers 2! Whedon did an amazing job when he wrote the X-Men a few years back so surely he knows and appreciates how important these two characters are...
Sturmpionier
Sturmpionier - 7/24/2010, 8:16 AM
Hawksblueyes is right. Feige listed the original Avengers and said that more might show up. Right now that looks more like War Machine and Black Widow since we've actually seen them on screen. Also, it looks like Hawkeye is a go, too. While you do have to adapt source material for film, don't go too far off the reservation. Harry Potter wouldn't have worked if the movie had made him a girl, or an old man. To me, Giant-man and the Wasp are a two-fer. They fill the fans desires for the original team and also provide interesting characters with easy to explain powers.
HULK2099
HULK2099 - 7/24/2010, 8:18 AM
I wanna see fusion attacks!!
Jimiboy234
Jimiboy234 - 7/24/2010, 8:23 AM
damnt, nathan fillion would've been cool. but still, hanks gotta be in this god damn movie!! Yellowjacket would be great, or giant man.
TheQuestion
TheQuestion - 7/24/2010, 8:24 AM
I think Joss is hinting that Giant-Man is actually in the film, or maybe Yellowjacket. I always disliked the Ant-Man person as it just seemed goofy and useless.
TheQuestion
TheQuestion - 7/24/2010, 8:24 AM
I think Joss is hinting that Giant-Man is actually in the film, or maybe Yellowjacket. I always disliked the Ant-Man person as it just seemed goofy and useless.
pitchblack
pitchblack - 7/24/2010, 8:25 AM
Actually kind of glad about Ant-Man. Number one way to screw up this movie to try to do too much. Hopefully Hank Pym is still in though.
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 7/24/2010, 8:39 AM
I do not like this director. It reminds me of Brett Ratner. The Avengers will not be successful. We will see something like X-Men: The Last Stand.
WingPow
WingPow - 7/24/2010, 8:40 AM
great news
DCMarvelFreshman
DCMarvelFreshman - 7/24/2010, 8:43 AM
I think he kind of confirmed one or all the Avengers will have a battle...I think.
spiderman620
spiderman620 - 7/24/2010, 8:47 AM
exactly
MatchesMalone
MatchesMalone - 7/24/2010, 8:54 AM
@superheromoviefan- "The Avengers will not be successful. "

Wow, dude, that's a pretty bold statement considering all of the movies that feed into Avengers haven't even come out yet. I can understand people's trepidation for Joss Whedon, but at least he has knowledge of comic book characters from actually reading and writing comics rather than all his knowledge coming from a 20 year old cartoon.

My prediction: You will be one of the people that sees the Avengers multiple times in the theaters and buy it on special edition blu-ray and tell all of your friends that you knew it was going to be awesome the entire time.
WakeUp
WakeUp - 7/24/2010, 9:20 AM
I'm glad all these people are boycotting this movie, i was afraid there would be a long line at the theater lol
ORION
ORION - 7/24/2010, 9:29 AM
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/1060778-joss_whedon/
UnfriendlySpidey
UnfriendlySpidey - 7/24/2010, 9:38 AM
I'm with Taboo on this one...we'll have to wait and see before we pass judgement. And the Avengers is too big of a CBM not to see...I just hope everything turns out for the best b/c I love DC, but Marvel is my mainstay
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 7/24/2010, 9:40 AM
@MatchesMalone - I've heard that prediction before. When X-Men 3 come out. Believe me, the prediction has not repeated.
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 7/24/2010, 9:43 AM
I'm so tired of all this back and forth crap.
marvel72
marvel72 - 7/24/2010, 9:54 AM
civil war would be shit hot,if marvel studios had all their comic rights back.
but i don't think we will ever see that day.
Dmon
Dmon - 7/24/2010, 10:11 AM
He seemed to be very careful with his words he never said that Nathan Fillion, Hank Pym, or Giant-Man was not in it he just said there was no Ant-Man.
RedDevil
RedDevil - 7/24/2010, 10:24 AM
If they do Civil War it would be so cool if they add the "What if" Storyline as well lol (wishfull thinking)
"What if" is when Nova appears to the scene because of the Annihilation war but when he appears since the Annihilation Wave has reached earth, to Nova's surprise, he sees a war between superheroes which frustrates him cus he spent a long time in space protecting earth from a real threat. He needed help from the others but instead saves humanity by himself cus Cap and Iron Man are disputing on the Registration Act.
RedDevil
RedDevil - 7/24/2010, 10:30 AM
Hulk always reminded me of Frankenstein but with anger management issues and power to destroy countries with his bare hands.
marz66
marz66 - 7/24/2010, 10:45 AM
personally,I think that they should stay away from the "civil war"storyline until maybe avengers 3 or 4,but use it as the conclusion perhaps.They could start it in the other CineMarvel Universe movies like Iron Man or whatever characters Marvel still owns and just have a "thread" stringing everything together.
I want to see ultron,by gum.THEN there's NO WAY they cannot have Hank and Jan NOT be involved.lol
SHAZAM171
SHAZAM171 - 7/24/2010, 11:07 AM
YES, Go Joss. He will do a great job. I have faith in him.
vtopa
vtopa - 7/24/2010, 11:25 AM
Norton at Comic-Con. I've now heard 5 seperate rumors that Norton was spotted at Comic-con amid heavy security and in disguise. Three different reports. Anybody there? Anybody confirm this?? This could be huge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hewilldefytheirgravity
hewilldefytheirgravity - 7/24/2010, 11:28 AM
Everbody thats talkin boycott AVENGERS is lyin dey asses off! LOL!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 7/24/2010, 11:46 AM
hewilldefytheirgravity @ I wont worry about BOYCOTTING it, I wont be watch it full stop if we only have half the founding team and characters like WAR MACHINE in the first one! NORTON can only bring some good news and sunlight to AVENGERS now!

vtopa @ Very cool! ; )
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