Was phase 2 hinted in the Avengers?

There was a scene in the Avengers that may have given something away, and im not sure if it's been pointed out

Editorial Opinion
By LMFA0 - Oct 24, 2013 05:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers

First off, I know this editorial isn't going to be great. Judge me or delete it if you want.

I recently watched the Avengers and there was a scene in the very beginning that I feel like may be overlooked. When Nick fury goes in front of the "counsel", it is mentioned that Phase 2 isn't ready and that they are forced to go into the Avengers initiative.

Most people think that Tony will create Ultron, but what if it is this counsel and shield that creates him. What if he's been being built this whole time?

With the first trailer for Winter Soldier out today, it's obvious that shield can't be trusted and want to "take care of threats before they happen". All signs point to this being the plan all along

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l0rdleg0las
l0rdleg0las - 10/24/2013, 6:04 PM
they also describe phase 2 as the building of weapons from the Tesseract. i don't think Ultron was hinted in the 1st Avengers. The only person who can have anything to do with creating Ultron is Tony since there hasn't been any Pym sightings. The only contracts the government has that could lead to an AI for use is Hammer industries, but his stuff was all garbage and he is in prison.
LMFA0
LMFA0 - 10/24/2013, 6:07 PM
Who said Ultron isn't powered by the tesseract?
sikwon
sikwon - 10/24/2013, 6:13 PM
The cube is in asgard.
MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 10/24/2013, 6:55 PM
Phase 2 was The Winter Soldier.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 10/24/2013, 9:49 PM
Morte

Im pretty sure they said Pym wouldn't have anything to do with Ultron.

Not to mention the Original Human Torch was seen in Cap TFA, which alludes to the fact that AI was created long before Pym.
WeaponX93
WeaponX93 - 10/25/2013, 6:04 AM
I wrote something a while ago basically saying what you said, though I didn't think of the Counsel creating him. I could definitely see that happening. They use the tesseract to power their own Iron Man type armor, as they've never been fans of the Avengers.
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/25/2013, 6:28 AM
i thought phase two was that thing about them storing hydra weapons & keeping them secret from the avengers.
NovaCorpsFan
NovaCorpsFan - 10/25/2013, 9:57 AM
Stark made JARVIS and his his mk 42 used AI. Ultron is AI because his intelligence came from an outside force. He is sentient, yes, doesn't mean he isn't AI.
ruadh
ruadh - 10/25/2013, 8:02 PM
Phase 2 was simply creating weapons from the tesseract. Forming the Avengers was Fury's alternative to such a plan. It's spelled out pretty well in the few scenes "phase 2" is mentioned.
Liverpool4life
Liverpool4life - 10/27/2013, 7:16 PM
How about rogue elements within the World Security Council and SHIELD are responsible. Maybe they steal technology from Stark, Pym, AIM and others to develop the AI supersoldier that they think they can control. Too soon I guess.
mook
mook - 10/30/2013, 5:26 AM
My thoughts on this question; http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/SuperheroSpeculation/news/?a=81844
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