Why I believe Kang the Conqueror is the true villain of AVENGERS 3

Why I believe Kang the Conqueror is the true villain of AVENGERS 3

What crazy theory have I come up with? Kang the Conqueror is the big bad for the MCU!

Editorial Opinion
By mediamaniagc - Jul 18, 2014 05:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers

So my theory centers around the time traveling, futuristic Kang the Conqueror. Now before I begin I would like to point out that I do no write these often and am only starting to try to write regularly. 

So firstly like many others, I believe there is more to the other than meets the eye. In this case I believe that using some technology from the future, based upon Skrull reverse engineering or iron man technology ect, Kang is using holograms and trickery in order to portray the other, whilst the real other has been disposed of. IN this way Kang can manipulate Thanos into seeking the infinity gauntlet and capturing the Earth, which is one of Kangs many obsessions. With the Gauntlet and the Earth in his control he would have ultimate control over all of time. This kind of power alone is a motive in itself.

But what if this planned failed? Surely he wouldn't just rely on Thanos and his army. This is why his manipulation has been present throughout many of the films. Have you never wondered why so many MCU villains have confusing if not ridiculous motives for becoming villainous? Surely Whiplash wouldn't have gone as far as he did just because his father got fired or was screwed. Justin Hammer must have some kind of motive for the hatred  of Stark. Many lesser villains from Batroc to abomination to an extent, must have been used in some way to cause the havoc they did. Even Killian must have had better reasoning than being left on a roof top, for hating Tony Stark. This is where Kang comes in. Throughout all their lives all these villains were fed information, brain washed and unknowingly controlled until the right moment to take down Kangs biggest threats. Therefore the force motives in their heads were never very strong, but enough to bring out the hatred in these people. This control slowly neutralized threats and brought the gems together. 

So it may be an out there theory but I do believe Kang has been in control the entire time! Why couldn't he just get the gems himself though you ask? Well because he was never on Earth or in Asgard long enough because he had to look after his dying wife, much like the Avengers TV series. His time is collapsing and so he can never interfere directly into what he wants, only through other parties. So that is my overall theory and although there may be some plot holes in this I believe something similar very well may be possible! There are signs here and there for this, from Aldrich Killians space image to the delivery of plans to Whiplash from what we were lead to believe were the 10 rings, but could be Kang in disguise once again. 

What are your views on my theory? Ridiculous or possible? Let me know if I left any big clues out also, thanks for reading.

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CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/18/2014, 6:15 AM
So you came up with this theory based on absolutely nothing. What has happened in the MCU that could have possibly led you to think Kang is the big bad?

Kang won't be used. For one thing I'm not even sure Marvel has the rights to him considering he's more of a Fantastic Four villain than anything. Also considering Kang is really Reed Richards' descendent from an alternate timeline.

Even if the rights were not a problem, I don't think Marvel would use him unless they wanted to pull a Star Trek style reboot somewhere way down the line.

But again, you've given no evidence whatsoever to support this theory. You might as well have said Paste Pot Pete is the big bad.

But hey, if you're right I'll be the first to admit it. Loll
kinghulk
kinghulk - 7/18/2014, 6:40 AM
corndogburglar- good idea on the reboot it would be like star trek and days of future past. it would be a good idea if they need/want to do a soft reboot.
kong
kong - 7/18/2014, 6:41 AM
@CorndogBurglar

PREACH
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 7/18/2014, 6:43 AM
It's an interesting theory but i do believe that Thanos will be the main villain of Avenger's 3 and there will be a huge ensemble of heroes to team up against Thanos.

mediamaniagc
mediamaniagc - 7/18/2014, 6:57 AM
Haha @CorndogBurglar I get where your coming from, it was just an interesting idea I had and wanted to hear some thoughts. It could be a reboot thing too which is a good point.
yossarian
yossarian - 7/18/2014, 7:33 AM
I believe you're a bullfrog. That doesn't make it true.
Alphadog
Alphadog - 7/18/2014, 8:53 AM
No guys he's right. Kang will be the villain of Avengers 3 but he won't be The Other and Thanos will barely appear in the movie. The Infinity Gauntlet will at least be Avengers 4 not 3. It might be even Later than that. Maybe that's what Marvel has planned for 2028.
ToxicCap
ToxicCap - 7/18/2014, 10:07 AM
I say they do Kang for Avengers 3 and have a Thanos be the villian for Avngers 4 or the very last film Avengers film.
Null
Null - 7/18/2014, 10:52 AM
That's a whole lot of hell no!
CapitanAmerika2
CapitanAmerika2 - 7/18/2014, 12:16 PM
I don't think it will be that way. I think Thanos is going to be the Big bad for Avengers 3 because all roads seem to be pointing to the Infinity Gauntlet storyline being the plot for that movie. But it is possible though. After all we thought that Thanos would be the villain for Avengers 2 before Ultron was announced and they could have him be trying to wield the Infinity stone that controls time.
Alphadog
Alphadog - 7/18/2014, 1:06 PM
@RedSkull1940 Actually no they aren't. Kevin Feige has said multiple times that Thanos will be the big baddie of at least the Avengers series. That he would be the final villain that they would face. Now do you really think that they would end the series after only three movies? I really don't especially considering that the first movie is the third highest grossing movie ever (Age of Ultron will probably take that place or maybe even take on of the other two places) and that they have plans that go until 2028 (I'm pretty sure that those plans would include Avengers 4, 5 and 6). That's just one proof. The other one for example is that they have barely explored the cosmic universe. Two Guardians of the Galaxy movies and maybe one more space movie in phase three aren't enough to explain everything and I think that they're going to make the big finale very big.
GageHarts
GageHarts - 7/18/2014, 3:41 PM
Having a big bad over Thanos would be like having a bigger bad than Darth Sidius. Too confusing.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 7/19/2014, 7:13 AM
Even after reading your article twice, I'm still not sure where you came to this conclusion, apart from wishful thinking.

I can already tell you though, it won't happen. And not for anything story-related, or because it's not the direction the studio wants, or because Kang wouldn't be interpreted well....

But because Fox owns Kang, unfortunately. One quick look at his wiki entry would show that.
Alphadog
Alphadog - 7/19/2014, 10:43 AM
@Tainted87 Kang has a huge history with the Avengers. Most people who know about him have no idea that he has anything to do with the Fantastic Four. His history with the Avengers is bigger than Scarlet Witch so I'm pretty sure that Marvel has the rights to him. Fox might also have them but I'm not sure even that is true.
HulkOnion
HulkOnion - 7/19/2014, 1:21 PM
Josh Brolin isnt sticking around THAT long...


Hes not waiting till 2028 or Avengers 4 (probably 2022 or so)

Thanos is Avengers 3. Kang can be Avengers 4 but no way hes not gonna be in 3
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 7/19/2014, 6:34 PM
@Alphadog
His name is Nathaniel Richards. His Ultimate counterpart is Sue Storm.

Now believe me, I want to see a time-traveling storyline in earnest, not just as a small part of the story like Days of Future Past, but an involving plot throughout the movie. It's something fresh that just isn't seen all that much, and isn't expounded on often at all because writers simply aren't intelligent or interested enough to tackle it fully.

A year ago and then some, I hadn't seen a single episode of Doctor Who, didn't care about it, didn't regard it any which way at all. My sister got on Netflix and made me watch the revival series from Christopher Eccleston to Matt Smith, and I thought it was.... fantastic. It will always be over-hyped of course, but I'm a fan now.

I want to see Marvel go down that route with at least one of their characters. I'd like to see a great superior version of Infinity Gauntlet (it would have to be miles ahead of the book) where it's not some linear pitched battle where Thanos just obliterates everyone - I'd like for the movies that have lead up to that moment be rewarded with more than just a ten to maybe twenty minute scene.


I'd like to see the Hulk transported to Sakaar, I'd like to see Adam Warlock AND Doctor Strange save the day through time travel - yes, I know, the Doctor traveling through time, how original. I'd like to see characters planted throughout different time periods as anchors, battling Thanos' control and will, whether it be a losing or winning battle. I'd like to see part of the reality gem scattered throughout time, or perhaps be the origin of Scarlet Witch's non-mutant powers. I'd like to see Asgard be met with destruction while battling Loki's reign, with the god of mischief seeing his end with fear and despair as he dies just as everyone else. I'd like to see Doctor Strange make a deal with Mephisto to help stop Thanos with the smallest of efforts.... and I think we just might.

I really wish Kang would be used to that effect as well, I REALLY do.... but I don't see it happening. I could be very wrong, but I doubt it.
CapitanAmerika2
CapitanAmerika2 - 7/19/2014, 9:50 PM
@Alphadog and dethpillow: It could make sense to have him as the Big bad for Avengers 3 if he kills most if not all the original members. Then if Sony and Fox have given Spiderman and X-Men back to Marvel then you could have Avengers 4 have the new Avengers Assemble with Spiderman, Wolverine, Bucky, Spider-Woman, Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Luke Cage, Daredevil, and Iron Fist being the members of that team.

HAIL HYDRA!!!
Alphadog
Alphadog - 7/20/2014, 1:27 AM
@CaptainSporty How hard do you think it is for him to play the role? Considering that the Avenger was the third highest grossing movie of all time and the next movies will probably be even higher he will probably get a big paycheck for playing the big villain of one of the movies. Even if does quit it doesn't matter. Marvel can just replace him and you know well that they don't need help from a big name actor.
Alphadog
Alphadog - 7/20/2014, 1:28 AM
@RedSkull1940 Sony and Fox aren't going to give back the rights in 4 years. They would never give them back that soon.
Alphadog
Alphadog - 7/20/2014, 1:31 AM
@Tainted87 What the [frick] are you talking about? That would still happen but in a later movie. Thanos isn't going anywhere, Kang is just going to appear before him. His plan will probably have something to do with stopping Thanos.
Alphadog
Alphadog - 7/20/2014, 1:33 AM
@Tainted87 Also, his true identity is barely mentioned as far as I know and that story in the Ultimate Universe was in the Avengers book not the Fantastic Four (granted that they didn't exist but he still has a bigger history with the Avengers than with the Fantastic Four.
HulkOnion
HulkOnion - 7/20/2014, 8:37 AM
@Alphadog Probably not that hard, no.


But he wouldnt want to wait 10 years just to voice someone who can be voiced by any good actor.
Alphadog
Alphadog - 7/20/2014, 1:09 PM
@CaptainSporty So like I said doesn't matter if he quits.
CapitanAmerika2
CapitanAmerika2 - 7/21/2014, 1:30 PM
@Alphadog: Who's to say it couldn't happen 7-10 years from now. Marvel has plans until 2028. Sony and Fox could have made all the X-Men and Spiderman movies they desire by that time and they could give it back in time for Avengers 4 or 5.

HAIL HYDRA!
Alphadog
Alphadog - 7/22/2014, 1:17 AM
@RedSkull1940 Phase 3 ends in 4 or 5 years with Avengers 3.
CapitanAmerika2
CapitanAmerika2 - 7/22/2014, 10:21 PM
@Alphadog: The end of Phase 3 does not mean the end of the MCU.
Alphadog
Alphadog - 7/23/2014, 1:49 AM
@RedSkull1940 Which was one of the reasons why I'm saying that Thanos won't be in Avengers 3 since he's suppossed to be the last villain but what I was saying was that even if the rights were to revert back to Marvel in 7-10 years that wouldn't be enough for them to get movies in Phase 4 because Phase 4 starts in 5 years and the production begins long before that. Your hopes of Thanos rebooting the universe and then having a new Phase with Spider-man and X-men aren't possible. I would even be suprised if the characters had movies before Phase 6. It would take a long time for Marvel to start production on those movies.
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