EDITORIAL: Why In 20 Years We Will All Hate Chris Nolan

Nolan's done a great thing for comic movies. TDK managed to bring some respect to the genre. I know a lot of people interested in comic flicks because of TDK. But I will agree that he's changed a lot and altered the characters. I've enjoyed his films immensely, but I'm still waiting for the definitive comic-accurate Bat-Flick.

I think the reboot, whenever it happens, needs to have a feel like Arkham Asylum. It's real true to the source but still cool.

Thanks MM, sexymuppet, all you guys. I'm just tired of his charade.

20 years is just a number, I don't know how long it really will be. And no, not from a different director, from a different idea. Somebody else had directed it, it would still be the same lack of true Batman.

Wouldn't be surprised, we always hate the good director's after they're gone..
Donner, Burton, Singer, Nolan won't be any different.

Funny thing is, my family and I weren't interested in comics until we saw Batman Begins.

Chris Nolan has beeb the best thing that has ever happened to Batman. He has officially turned Batman into the most well known comic character of all time. His vision of Batman is the most original thing I have seen in a CBM ever. So I will never hate Nolan because he saved Batman from years of distaste from Schumacher's films and transformed him into the highest grossing comic character of all time.

i don't hate nolan i liked memento & inception,also his batman films good if overrated.

It's only fashionable to hate/attempt to tear down Nolan's Batman films in small communities like this website. Most of the rest of the world will remember how much they enjoyed TDK in 2008 and how successful it was critically and financially, as soon as marketing picks up.

People here just love to overestimate their opinions' influence on the outcome of movies like TDKR. I think we all know why.

We have yet to see 'The Dark Knight Rises'.

I loved 'Casino Royale' directed by Martin Campbell, but i don't look back and hate Guy Hamilton for his take on James Bond with 'Goldfinger' and his other flicks. Hopefully we get another unique take on the character, another great story. I would love to see more detective work in a batman movie (give me 'Seven' with a guy in a bat suit and I'm happy).
As far as TDKR I will reserve my judgement for actual movie. I've been jilted by awesome trailers, and by sh*tty pre production pictures. So we'll see. I actually like the compact look for Bane.

another pointless article on Nolan.....please stop giving these pointless VERDICTS on nolan and TDK....

a man is constantly giving quality movies to the audiences and the best we can do is to criticize about him.

so, u don't enjoy dark knight these days....so what do u want batman having a item dance number just like spidey did in spiderman 3 or more explosions like transformers.

I am a die hard batman fan but first of all I am a die hard super hero movies fan....I just don't simply enjoy them but I feel them...just like a soothing music.


cause now-days there is a trend in this site to be nolan hater.....despite of every thing he is doing to give us quality movies of different genres...

now its cool to hate Nolan? lol

@altair, yah a cop movie, with batman, joker, and 2 face, and resemblences to long halloweeen and killing joke

@Joker11: Batman does wear armor in the comics, but nevertheless I do get your point.

He created his own version of the characters that will be valued as a great addition to the Batman mythology. Regardless of whether or not you appreciate Nolan's version of Batman characters, I think it's kind of ridiculous to say "he ruined our chances of seeing a real Joker, Bane, Catwoman or Justice League film in our time." As much money as this series has made, they're not just going to stop making Batman movies after Nolan is done. I think it's quite likely that after taking a break for a few years, we'll see a new Batman franchise like what we're getting with Amazing Spider-man. A new creative direction that's possibly closer to the comics.

As for Justice League, that's almost inevitable. If anyone is to blame for that not happening soon or the way it should, it's the people in charge at DC/Warner who don't want to follow Marvel's Cinematic Universe path.

@ altair

I disagree with a lot you just said.

First of all, the characters were changed a LOT in Begins, not just TDK. So you can't say you hate TDK for that reason, but not Begins.

Second... "This is slightly grounded in realism, but still the Bane we know and love. Personally, I think the Arkham series has got both Bane and Catwoman down to a Tee. But Nolan wants "his version".
How in the world is the Arkham series grounded in realism? Its not even close. And they got Bane totally wrong in that game. In the comics he's a criminal mastermind, not just some rampaging monster. In the comics, he's a normal sized dude (who is ripped), and when he juices the Venom, it makes him even bigger, but only his muscles. It doesn't turn him into a gigantic mindless monster. Also, Catwoman wasn't in the first Arkham game, and Arkham City hasn't been released yet, so how can you judge what she's like in the game?

So I have to say, while trying not to sound insulting, that i think you might need to take a better look at Bane's character in the comics. I think you have the wrong idea of him.

Also, when did anything say that Bane is a bounty hunter in TDKR?

Wait, so am I to take it that you just don't understand how movies work or you're too narrow-minded to accept that people have different interpretations of characters?

"But, in the long run, is Nolan delivering us good movies?"
Well, considering one was critically acclaimed and won an Oscar, that'd be safe to say.

"But during TDK, something changed in Nolan's formula. He started changing characters too much."

This is true. I loved how close to the comic books Batman Begins was. Especially Scarecrow.

"I watched TDK again a few weeks ago and hated it. Now, I'm likely to get bashed, but the characters in that movie aren't the characters I grew up with. Ledger did great as Joker, but Joker wasn't right."
Let's see. White makeup? Check. Sinister man? Check. Operates through irony and black humor? Check. Chaotic force of nature that chews the scenery? You betcha. Sounds nothing like the Joker, you're right!

"Now, we have TDKR coming, and I want you guys, to just close your eyes, and think, "Is this the Bane I wanted?" or "Is this the Catwoman I wanted?". For me, it's a no to both. Imagine, in a perfect world, what these characters should be portrayed like to you."
Well of course you're going to close your eyes and see other versions of the characters. Personally, when I close my eyes Catwoman has the head of a cat and the body of a woman.

"For me, Bane should not be a bounty hunter, Darth Vader-mask wearing short guy. I actually love Bane's mask. But the suit doesn't match. I imagine Bane being a short guy who grows huge, has a menacing mask, but has a costume that matches. Take Arkham Asylum's Bane for instance. This is slightly grounded in realism, but still the Bane we know and love. Personally, I think the Arkham series has got both Bane and Catwoman down to a Tee. But Nolan wants "his version"."
This paragraph is basically what we call in the biz, filler. So mine will be the same.

"Nolan is kind of a diva, in my eyes. He takes characters that don't belong to him, and twists them until they're not the same. He's not even letting them use Bale or Cavill in Justice League. What happened to him being done with it after Rises? Does that mean he can say no to Bale being in a JL film?"
Yeah. I hate when people take characters that don't belong to them and change them. Kind of like Bob Kane did. That evil man. And how dare he take a property and transform it into a film? You'd think he's a filmmaker or something. Oh, the humanity!

"Nolanites are going to use the excuse of Bane and Catwoman being perfect for a realistic world. But, as someone else has pointed out before me, the story doesn't need to be realistic, the writing does. Why did Batman & Robin fail? It took it's average plot and made it worse with cheesy dialogue and corny scenes. Same with Green Lantern."
>Realistic
>microwave emitter and man in a bat suit beating the shit out of sadistic clowns.
That's what I see as realistic anyway. I don't see what Green Lantern and Batman and Robin being failures has to do with TDK? If anything, you're supporting TDK. The story wasn't too realistic but the dialogue was good and served its purpose.

But go on, be fourteen years old and consider this an actual outlet. You're definitely a journalist now!