JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX - Detailed Spoilers For Todd Phillips' Sequel Have Been Shared Online

JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX - Detailed Spoilers For Todd Phillips' Sequel Have Been Shared Online

Following the world premiere of Joker: Folie À Deux at this year's Venice Film Festival, detailed spoilers for Todd Phillips' sequel have been shared online...

By MarkCassidy - Sep 11, 2024 11:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Joker

Joker: Folie À Deux had its world premiere at the Venice Film Festival last week, and some of the reviews that followed when the embargo lifted contained (or hinted at, anyway) a few major story details.

Now, a video review of the movie has been shared to YouTube which pretty much serves as a full breakdown of the plot, including all of the songs that feature, how Lady Gaga's "Lee Quinzel" factors in to the film, which characters from the first movie return (though we knew most of them already), and the shocking ending which seems to be one of the most divisive aspects of Todd Phillips' sequel among critics.

We're still a few weeks out from the release of Folie À Deux, so we're not going to delve into the spoilers in any great detail here. We'll just say that there is at least one big surprise relating to Miss Quinzel, and while the denouement does indeed appear to be a pretty definitive end to this story, there are a couple of intriguing developments that could lead to... more Jokers.

Here is your final spoiler warning: You can watch the video for yourselves here.

If you do decide to watch, please refrain from discussing what's revealed in too much detail in the comments section, as others may choose to skip the review.

“Joker: Folie À Deux finds Arthur Fleck institutionalized at Arkham awaiting trial for his crimes as Joker. While struggling with his dual identity, Arthur not only stumbles upon true love, but also finds the music that's always been inside him."

From acclaimed writer/director/producer Todd Phillips comes Joker: Folie À Deux, the much-anticipated follow-up to 2019’s Academy Award-winning Joker, which earned more than $1 billion at the global box office and remains the (second) highest-grossing R-rated film of all time.

The new film stars Joaquin Phoenix once again in his Oscar-winning dual role as Arthur Fleck/Joker, opposite Oscar winner Lady Gaga (A Star Is Born). The film also stars Oscar nominees Brendan Gleeson (The Banshees of Inisherin) and Catherine Keener (Get Out, Capote), alongside Zazie Beetz, reprising her role from Joker.

The movie is rated R for “some strong violence, language throughout, some sexuality, and brief full nudity.”

The Joker sequel arrives in theaters on October 4.

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SATW42
SATW42 - 9/11/2024, 11:40 AM
A half hour is still too long for me to dedicate to this
SATW42
SATW42 - 9/11/2024, 11:42 AM
Also, how do you make a post about a 100 percent spoiler review and then, essentially, tell people not to talk about it because they might not watch said review?

Then what would people talk about? Random Joker thoughts? The presidential debate?

How about if you don't want spoilers, you don't click on a spoiler article, and you CERTAINLY don't go to the comment section of a story, that is exclusively about spoilers.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 9/11/2024, 11:46 AM
@SATW42 - I would ordinarily agree, but in this case, I didn't want to just spill all the details in the article because we're still weeks away from release, and the studio prob wouldn't appreciate it. But year, discuss away I guess.
SATW42
SATW42 - 9/11/2024, 12:32 PM
@MarkCassidy - eh, my response reading it again was more snarky than intended. I just feel like, the article is about the review, so the comment section in theory would be about the review.

I'm just a cranky old man whose over "spoiler" culture. I grew up in the days of the playground when people talking about everything that happened in a movie made you want to see it and no one yelled "no spoilers!" at you.

I can't imagine being on the playground in the late 80s early 90s and hearing about the latest horror movie and someone saying "don't tell me about it" when people are talking about all the kills.
DalekCraigWasson
DalekCraigWasson - 9/11/2024, 1:07 PM
@MarkCassidy - If the studio doesn't appreciate it, then don't do an article spoiling it! The studio still won't be happy, but you still get your clicks and this random YTer gets views, I guess. Just seems really hypocritical: either post spoilers to get clicks and be honest, or respect the studio's wishes.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/11/2024, 1:07 PM
@SATW42 - agreed , it’s dumb

Then don’t post the article in the first place at that point
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 9/11/2024, 1:16 PM
@DalekCraigWasson - I didn't do an article spoiling it... the Youtuber spoiled it and I linked to his video. See? I can get clicks AND respect the studio's wishes.
DalekCraigWasson
DalekCraigWasson - 9/11/2024, 2:13 PM
@MarkCassidy - I have no problem with people selling hamburgers, despite them being unhealthy. I have no problem with people who don't want to sell hamburgers because they are unhealthy.

I DO have a problem if someone advertised that they sold hamburgers, then you go inside and you're told they're unhealthy, but if you really want them, go over to Joe's Shack behind the restaurant, they got hamburgers there. Just don't bring them back and eat them here at the place advertising you have hamburgers.

Either do a spoiler article or wait. Doing it this way is just transparently sleazy.
SATW42
SATW42 - 9/11/2024, 2:29 PM
@MarkCassidy - I didn't mean to start a whole thing. I really just meant if an article is about a spoiler video, it should be assumed the comment section would naturally be about said video.

At that point, it's on the reader for going to the comment section.
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 9/11/2024, 3:28 PM
@MarkCassidy - Looks like the studio hammer struck and the video is gone already.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 9/11/2024, 3:40 PM
@DalekCraigWasson - your analogy is hilarious.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 9/11/2024, 3:41 PM
@SATW42 - it's cool... I actually agree. People should be able to discuss the spoilers here if they clicked on the article.
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 9/11/2024, 11:42 AM
I don't understand?? So what is the spoiler?

Did Josh write this shit??
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 9/11/2024, 11:48 AM
@THEKENDOMAN - Did you read the article?
Vigor
Vigor - 9/11/2024, 11:50 AM
Holy shit a half hr video. Can someone summarize ???
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 9/11/2024, 12:13 PM
Hard pass. Now going to back to youtube to roast that one user again, because her counter attack was, "well you won this time, but Joker 2 is coming and it will be even better and top d&w"
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ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 9/11/2024, 12:23 PM
@RegularPoochie - I doubt it'll break 1 billion
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 9/11/2024, 2:55 PM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - yeah, I also don't see it happening. I can get pretty close, but not breaking it.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/11/2024, 12:46 PM
So yes I did see the video and boy , it is gonna be divisive like the first one especially the ending (of which I’m kinda 2 minds about myself)…

There doesn’t seem like there’s much to spoil but essentially ,Arthur is killed at the end and as we see him die , you see the other patient laughing manically and giving himself a Glasgow smile which indicates that the former was never the actual Joker and that this person might be it.

Also Harley seemingly gets pregnant during the film and with Arthur having amassed a following , it’s left open to the “Real” Joker being out there.

Anyway personally , I still think the movie as a whole sounds decent still and an improvement over the first one which I didn’t care much for.
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 9/11/2024, 12:57 PM
@TheVisionary25 - this actually pleases me, you can’t have a definitive joker origin story. The premise is why I mostly can’t bring myself to have interest in these movies. Every joker origin story should have either an unreliable narrator or ambiguity. Maybe I’ll be able to appreciate it a little more now
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/11/2024, 1:04 PM
@NonPlayerC - I agree , that’s my preferred take aswell

I can understand the other side though who might feel what was the point then of watching these films?

It’s obviously been evident that Phillips (who even admiited) wanted to do a character study film in the vein of Taxi Driver & King of Comedy with the first film but in order to sell it , he had to put the DC brand on it

This way he gets to do what he wanted while also leaving it open enough for Joker fans
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 9/11/2024, 12:51 PM
I’m tired of watching videos can someone please just tell me the spoilers? While I enjoyed the first one it's a one time watch for me and the trailers for the sequel hasn’t interested me at all. 🤷‍♂️
valmic
valmic - 9/11/2024, 1:39 PM
So it's basically what GOTHAM tried to do with having someone be an inspiration to a future Joker. This and Penguin just feel like they stole some ideas from Gotham.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/11/2024, 6:33 PM
@valmic - [frick] seriously? Then what about Harley is she an inspiration for the real Harley? such a shitshow.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 9/11/2024, 1:49 PM
WB had the video stricken for copyright claims.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 9/11/2024, 11:39 PM
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