JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Spoilers: Here's What Happens To Lady Gaga's Harley Quinn - Will A Spin-Off Follow?

JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Spoilers: Here's What Happens To Lady Gaga's Harley Quinn - Will A Spin-Off Follow?

With Joker: Folie à Deux now playing in theaters, we're taking a deep dive into Lady Gaga's role as Lee Quinzel, including whether she suits up and what eventually happens. Could we get a spin-off?

By JoshWilding - Oct 04, 2024 09:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Joker

Unsurprisingly, Joker: Folie à Deux puts a unique, not particularly comic-accurate new spin on Harley Quinn Lee Quinzel. However, she's perhaps more in line with the source material than the trailers have let on. 

When Arthur Fleck meets Lee, she claims that her mother had her locked up in Arkham Asylum and that she too grew up poor near where he lived. In reality, Lee went to grad school for psychiatry, lives with her wealthy parents, and chose to have herself committed so she could meet "Joker."

Arthur eventually confronts her and she claims to be pregnant; however, when that's brought up again later, all signs point to it being yet another lie from Lee. 

When Arthur confesses at his trial that Joker is just a persona he created, she disowns him and leaves the courthouse. Encountering her after escaping, she's in a full face of smudged clown makeup, a harlequin-inspired costume, and even has a new shorter haircut. She's now Harley Quinn. 

Lee leaves before a brokenhearted Arthur is arrested and, as you'll have read in our recap of the sequel's ending, things don't end well for him.

As for Lee, we don't get to see her again but it seems as if she's now ready to unleash the sort of chaos on Gotham Coty she'd hoped Joker might. Whereas Arthur puts that persona aside, Lee embraces her new moniker and could be a serious threat moving forward.

Does that mean we're getting a spin-off? While we're sure Warner Bros. Discovery would like one, Joker: Folie à Deux's negative reviews and likely disappointing opening weekend probably close the door on that happening. 

Filmmaker Todd Phillips has strongly hinted that he's done with DC after this movie, though Gaga has been quoted as saying, "I definitely don’t feel done with Lee as a character. She’s got so much to say. What an interesting gal."

We'll see what happens after awards season...

Joker: Folie À Deux finds Arthur Fleck institutionalized at Arkham awaiting trial for his crimes as Joker. While struggling with his dual identity, Arthur not only stumbles upon true love, but also finds the music that's always been inside him.

The sequel stars Joaquin Phoenix once again in his Oscar-winning dual role as Arthur Fleck/Joker, opposite Oscar-winner Lady Gaga (A Star Is Born). The movie also features Oscar nominees Brendan Gleeson (The Banshees of Inisherin) and Catherine Keener (Get Out), alongside Zazie Beetz, reprising her role from Joker.

Phillips, who was nominated for Oscars for directing, writing and producing Joker, directed Joker: Folie À Deux from a screenplay by fellow Oscar nominee Scott Silver & Phillips, based on characters from DC. This follow-up was produced by Phillips, Oscar nominee Emma Tillinger Koskoff and Joseph Garner. Lady Gaga served as music consultant.

Joker: Folie À Deux is now playing in theaters.

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DocSpock
DocSpock - 10/4/2024, 9:07 AM

What a freaking horrible idea this would be.

harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 10/4/2024, 9:08 AM
no
Matador
Matador - 10/4/2024, 9:10 AM
So his next ripoff was going to be Billie Jean

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TCronson
TCronson - 10/4/2024, 10:16 AM
@Matador - this one is not a ripoff, douche. The whole reason why it's such a radical departure from the first film or anything out there is his overreaction to obnoxious loud goblins selectively complaining about ripoff endlessly. He should've ignored you, anyone with a brain would.
Matador
Matador - 10/4/2024, 10:22 AM
@TCronson - Guess you should have taken your own advice and ignored me and it sounds like I hurt your butthole.

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Just grab some ice and walk it off champ.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 10/4/2024, 9:11 AM
Lee is a blokes name
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MuadDib
MuadDib - 10/4/2024, 12:34 PM
@HashTagSwagg - that is a dude, and this is the crying game.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 10/4/2024, 9:15 AM
I started laughing like Arthur once I got to the end.. [frick]ing sheesh
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 10/4/2024, 9:28 AM
I'm skipping spoiler articles but this sucks the film isn't doing well. and, without even seeing it, an absolute NOWAY for a Harley spin-off.
I'm sick of Quinn being shoved down our throats in film, animation, and Hot Topic.
jst5
jst5 - 10/4/2024, 9:54 AM
@lazlodaytona - I mean there isn't really anything to spoil about the movie...it's bad.The ending is expected and were tons of clues in the first movie this was going to be how the ending would go and what was going on wth Arthur.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/4/2024, 9:35 AM
This portrayal definitely seems to have echoes of certain iterations of Harley we have seen before…

One such being The Batman animated series in which both her and Joker had a mutual romantic relationship aswell as the Telltale Games which had Harley be the dominant one in their relationship who encouraged/manipulated “John Doe” into embracing becoming the Joker essentially.

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I doubt that was intentional but I like it nonetheless aswell as her being a former psychiatry student which is a nice reference.

However definitely seems like she is underutilized at the least and more a supporting player in Arthur’s arc then the co-lead she seemed to be.
Forthas
Forthas - 10/4/2024, 9:40 AM
Here is Margot Robbie right now as she thinks about all the money she will make when WB comes crawling back to her....

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WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 10/4/2024, 10:00 AM
Take a break from Harley Quinn and Joker ffs. The animated show is good enough.

Or make Gotham City Sirens movie maybe, but I can still see ppl feeling like they need to have other priorities.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/4/2024, 10:03 AM
@WakandanQueen - I agree

People aren’t ever gonna be entirely happy unless DC/WB does exactly as they think it should be which won’t happen.

Joker is my favorite Batman villain but yes ,we need a break from him so the spotlight can be given to others who haven’t had it in awhile or ever.
ImNotaBot
ImNotaBot - 10/4/2024, 11:25 AM
@WakandanQueen - Agreed. This is sad because i really want to see Barry Keoghan take on the character.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/4/2024, 12:29 PM
@WakandanQueen - Margot as Harley, Zoe Kravitz as Catwoman and Karen Gillan as Ivy. Go!
WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 10/4/2024, 1:44 PM
@ObserverIO - I'd go with Janelle Monáe as Selina if they wanna keep it not related to Reeves.

Gillan needs to be in more stuff in general.
MisterBones
MisterBones - 10/4/2024, 10:01 AM
Yikes
LSHF
LSHF - 10/4/2024, 10:28 AM
"Will A Spin-Off Follow?"

I'd answer that, but I promised James I wouldn't tell anyone.

Sorry.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 10/4/2024, 10:31 AM
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dragon316
dragon316 - 10/4/2024, 10:42 AM
I like first slow most places but this. Shouldn’t have been made goodd or bad it was

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