Origins in TDKR

Origins in TDKR

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Editorial Opinion
By TheShadow - Dec 19, 2010 10:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Batman



As I look at many of the comments surrounding certain characters,especially HUSH, I find myself about to stand up for them. First off all, I don't believe ANY of the Batman villains in Chris Nolan's Batman have had the same ORIGIN as in the COMICS. So all you fan-boys that say their is not enough movie for Hush you are wrong!
I can guarantee you the villains in the Dark Knight Rises will not have comic book origins. They never had, but of course they may be similar. To be honest we can have any character we want, with any origin we want. So, not all hopes for some characters are lost. So never say again their is not enough movie, because you are wrong. So in the end if you use the fact "Not enough time" you are wrong, Nolan does what he wants. So yes, any villain is possible. Sorry this was a short article, I just wanted to point this out.
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airbeyonder18
airbeyonder18 - 12/19/2010, 11:20 AM
@TheShadow: Bravo.
trytan
trytan - 12/19/2010, 12:15 PM
I don't think Hush is overated in all honesty. I think they could do a good origin by just having the film start at Rachel's funeral and Tom Elliot attends, Rachel's college boyfriend or something who always hated Bruce secretly. Something like that would be a good origin. I'd like to see him, Blackmask/Croc runnin the mob, and Talia to tie it to the first.
scarecrow67
scarecrow67 - 12/19/2010, 12:41 PM
Time for Julian Day. A meek, nice guy who is pushed out a window by his boss, then is revived by a pile of calendars. He then becomes an evil mastermind and pursues a life in crime, committing robberies and such on holidays, only to meet his match, Batman!!
RoscoeFolgers
RoscoeFolgers - 12/19/2010, 2:07 PM
^That's basically Riddler in Batman Forever... Just with dates and calendars instead of riddles and puzzles.
ZombieOverEasy
ZombieOverEasy - 12/19/2010, 4:01 PM
@Intruder LoL, this from the guy with Venom as his avatar. Doesn't get much more overrated than Venom.
golden123
golden123 - 12/19/2010, 4:34 PM
Except for Two-face none of Nolan's, over six, villains have actually had an origin.
tripttwe
tripttwe - 12/19/2010, 5:19 PM
I can dig it...
jokerking
jokerking - 12/19/2010, 5:22 PM
i agree to a point, its true that most of nolans villains have been originless for the most part (joker was viod of one on purpose) but hush needs his origin thats the whole point of the character, joker and most of the other villains serve thier purposes in thier actions but hushes purpose is in his origin its all about his association with bruce's past without it he is another gunslinger with aslightly higher than normal IQ. without an origin he isnt hush thats the point!
Knightstalker
Knightstalker - 12/19/2010, 6:42 PM
@Intruder, I'm getting tired of people posting articles that have no writing skills, language skills, ability to check facts and cross reference, or even figure out how to use a spell check or a grammar check. Seriously, it's almost painful to read these posts.

As far as Hush goes, WHO THE HELL IS HUSH?
Knightstalker
Knightstalker - 12/19/2010, 6:45 PM
Ok Scarecrow, that plot was already used in Batman TAS. Calender Girl was voiced magnificently by Wendie Malick.
golden123
golden123 - 12/19/2010, 8:54 PM
@Knightstalker: The plot about scarecrow dumping the fear toxin into the water supply was alreay used in Batman TAS nobody complained about that.
scarecrow67
scarecrow67 - 12/19/2010, 9:11 PM
@Roscoe and @Knightstalker, having just rewatched Batman Returns, I'm just joking about how bizarre/lame the Catwoman story was. I have the utmost faith in these writers and Nolan's team that this movie will be great.
Vafrous
Vafrous - 12/19/2010, 11:37 PM
Hush is alright...

I would prefer BLACK MASK & DEADSHOT
TheShadow
TheShadow - 12/20/2010, 6:29 AM
@KnightStalker
Sorry, I had to write this one pretty fast.
Also, I is their a spell check program?
TheShadow
TheShadow - 12/20/2010, 6:30 AM
@Intruder
Venom is an overloved, overated, and awful villain.
Hush is original, and is legit.
TheShadow
TheShadow - 12/20/2010, 6:36 AM
@jokerking
Yes the origin of Hush made him who he is. However, we do not have to follow the comic origin to every extent. All we need to do is cover the main parts. Say if Hugo strange was in TDKR,and he psychologist. The movie could call for flashbacks. If not you could still use a related origin.
TheShadow
TheShadow - 12/20/2010, 9:55 AM
@intruder
I love how Marvel Fan boys like you call everything DC a knock off. When, Dc was started in 1934, and Marvel in 1939....So.
Bane is no way a knock off of bane. Besides, DC is much more succesful than Marvel. Yes, Hush is new. However, he is in now way a knock off. I highly doubt Batman:hush was thought up by looking at a picture od Two-Face and Darkman.
I highly doubt you know much about Hush, please Read Batman:Hush before you continue.
Vafrous
Vafrous - 12/20/2010, 12:35 PM
@Intruder, Hush is the next Deacon Blackfire (not many people are going to remember him in a few years)

@TheShadow, How is Bane a rip off of Bane? Wtf does that even mean?


TheShadow
TheShadow - 12/20/2010, 1:02 PM
@deadshot
I meant Venom. If Hush is Deacon Blackfire, how come Hush is still being used right now?

@intruder
Kid? Your the one acting like the god of comics! Marvel is crap...get over it. "Little Boy"
Vafrous
Vafrous - 12/20/2010, 9:52 PM
@Intruder, So true...
ZombieOverEasy
ZombieOverEasy - 12/21/2010, 2:18 AM
@Intruder Hush has been around for 7 years, 8 if you want to get technical. The point of my comment wasn't to defend Hush, I really care less about the character and would prefer Black Mask or Penguin or another villain from Batman's vast rogues gallery. My point was the irony in calling another villain "Overrated" when you obviously are, on some level, a fan of Venom. One of Spiderman's most overrated and under developed villains. He's been around for 20 years, but I as a fan of Spiderman could care less about him, his depth and appeal ended when I out-grew him and realized he lacked development outside of dozens of other symbiote characters that now pollute the Spiderman mythos.

Calling Bane a rip-off of Venom is not only ludicrous, but shows how little you know about comics. Your very own comment lends to itself the simplicity of Venom. It's not just Bane that is one alien costume away, it's any Schmo in any comic. Venom's character development begins and ends with his suit.

You bitch at TheShadow over his spelling/grammar, yet the vast majority of what you've said isn't supported by any facts, which in my humble opinion is far more important than having proper grammar.

Your opinions no longer have any validity to me, so I'll just know to ignore you from now on.
TheShadow
TheShadow - 12/21/2010, 8:40 AM
@zombieovereasy
Beautiful....just beautiful
Knightstalker
Knightstalker - 12/22/2010, 8:04 PM
@Zombie, what good are opinions, facts, tripe, or whatever, if you can't communicate them properly? Just asking.
Teois42
Teois42 - 12/22/2010, 11:46 PM
I like Hush AND Venom!!!
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XxBatmanCrusaderxX
XxBatmanCrusaderxX - 12/23/2010, 8:16 AM
@nickkase
What a gret way to communicate with people
trytan
trytan - 1/1/2011, 5:39 PM
I myself am a big batman fan, have been for 20 years now and I like Hush. I will admit that as of right now, yes he maay be a little bland, but give it time and other wcomic writers working on him and I think he will be with the rest of the rogues. I do find him more entertaining that penguin who is just a short fat guy in a tux with a wierd umbrella fettish. As for Bane being a Venom rip off.....I strongly disagree. Yes they are alike in some ways but many comic heroes and villains are. Are you saying that Iron man is a Batman rip off because it is a millionare/billionare who fights crime with no super human powers?
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