Why MR. FREEZE won't be in a new BATMAN franchise

You can have both. Captain Cold should have Ice Powers like he does in the New 52. Captain Cold is more evil for the sake of evil while Freeze is evil for the sake of saving his wife.

2 completely different characters, only similarity is that they use ice and snow.

I'd love to see a mix of the old and new Captain Cold. He could start with the guns and gain the powers later in the film.

This is coming from the successful movie career of DrDoom, the villain of Fantastic Four & Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer.

Avengers 3 is going to be epic, I can already feel it. The Avengers vs Thanos. The most anticipated climax since Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 2 a.k.a the greatest finale in history.

I don't think you can have either.

The ice gimmick is too cheesy for movies, no matter who is doing it. It works great visually on the page or in cartoons because its such a fantastical thing. But in a film its much more problematic.

Look at Bobby Drake in X-Men. They couldn't do much with him except for a couple of small tricks. The biggest effect they could pull off was an Ice wall. When he went full body Iceman, it looked ridiculous. If he slid around on ice slides it'd look ridiculous. Ideally, you'd want the type of action Frozone delivers in The Incredibles, but again, that's animated. Too expensive (and arguably silly) for DC's current, serious tone.

@ LEVITKUZ:
Ra's Al Ghul worked because he's more realistic than Freeze. They omitted the fantastical element, the Lazarus Pit, but could still pull it off because that doesn't define his character.
You couldn't do the same for Victor Fries because he is defined by his gimmick.

And judging by the backlash, I don't know if I'd say Mandarin worked at all. Since neither IM3 villain was even close to the essence of who the character is, one can only conclude that the only way to do offbeat characters like Mandarin or Freeze, is to change them beyond recognition.

In the movies, Mandarin and Ra's aren't similar because of coincidence, they are similar because one ripped off the other.

@DrDoom Question, have you even read any Flash comics?

Doom went from slightly amusing to a complete and total ass.

People like him are the reason this site has gone to hell.

Hehehehe "Mr. Freeze is a cool villain"
I see what you did there...

This is a valid point though - and it's partially why Watchmen suffered a bit. You have the Dark Knight stealing the ending for the book just a year, not even a full year earlier - and then the Watchmen goes along almost verbatim with the heroes keeping Ozymandias' secret.

I'd rather see someone else from Batman's rogues who hasn't had a movie adaptation. The last two Nolan movies did completely different things with the characters - and kudos to them - but we need a change of scenery.

Captain Cold would be nice if he wasn't a sympathetic villain especially if he's going to be origin movie material, don't want to GA coming out of the cinema with brain freeze. But keep Mr Freeze sympathetic because that's what the GA tend to identify him as, which is great about CC is that he isn't entirely established within GA minds so we don't have to go all nutters on how we introduce CC. This is definitely an icy topic though.

@Jefferys: Sympathetic villains are the best kind of villains.

@indigobolt956: That would be messed up if people would want Gorilla Grodd in a Flash movie after bitching immensely about The Lizard in The Amazing Spider-Man and how cartoony they thought he was and how fake they thought he looked.