BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER Fight Coordinator Confirms Namor's Wings Can And Will Grow Back

BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER Fight Coordinator Confirms Namor's Wings Can And Will Grow Back

In Black Panther: Wakanda Forever's final act, Shuri tore off one of Namor's ankle wings. However, according to the movie's fight coordinator, we can expect the Submariner to eventually take flight again.

By JoshWilding - Feb 09, 2023 07:02 AM EST
Source: ComicBook.com

The final battle between Shuri and Namor in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever was suitably brutal, and with the Talokan leader weakened after being deprived of water, the new Black Panther was able to give him a well-deserved beating. As we're sure you'll recall, that included tearing off one of his ankle wings. 

The mutant anti-hero needs those to take flight, but for those of you fretting that the days of him heading up, up, and away are at an end, fear not.

Talking on Disney+'s latest "Assembled" documentary for Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, fight coordinator Aaron Toney addressed Namor's unexpected injury, starting by reflecting on how those wings factored into his unique fighting style

"It was fun to play around with the wings, you know, special, sort of like, quick attacks. Or him boosting. But also, they said, 'Can we rip the wings off?'"

"They grow back, he'll be fine," Toney confirmed, "but it gives you an opportunity to humanize this God-like character and make him come to her. And so that's playing to Shuri being smart."

The Black Panther sequel ends by teasing Namor's plans to one day call on Wakanda as an ally in Talokan's impending war against the surface world, so we clearly haven't seen the last of the Submariner. It's a little tricky to say when and where he might return, especially as the character being a supporting player in Black Panther 3 runs the risk of feeling repetitive. 

The response to Tenoch Huerta's take on Namor has been incredibly positive, though, even after Marvel Studios went back to the drawing board and completely rewrote his origin (which proved to be no bad thing). 

While complicated rights issues may prohibit Namor from starring in his own movie or TV series, we're sure he'll be paired up with another character soon. Failing that, pitting him against Kang the Conqueror in one of the upcoming Avengers movies would surely be welcomed by fans. 

What are your hopes for Namor in the MCU moving forward?

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marvel72
marvel72 - 2/9/2023, 7:39 AM
Thanks, I was so worried they wouldn't.
Origame
Origame - 2/9/2023, 7:39 AM
Not that I'm doubting they'll grow back, but why would this be knowledge shared with the fight coordinator?
MaximusTheMad
MaximusTheMad - 2/9/2023, 7:41 AM
@Origame - hahhahahhhhhahahhhahahhahahahahahahahahha
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/9/2023, 7:47 AM
@Origame - Because he has to compensate for the wings when Nah-More is fighting...

Origame
Origame - 2/9/2023, 7:53 AM
@marvel72 - you pronounced it wrong.

It's nah moooooooooooore.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 2/9/2023, 8:18 AM
@Origame - fight coordinator’s all have extensive knowledge of ankle wings.
You should see the deleted scenes from the matrix films.
Origame
Origame - 2/9/2023, 8:30 AM
@philinterrupted - that explains the ending of John wick 3, where he falls off the building but grows ankle wings to save himself. Of course.
SATW42
SATW42 - 2/9/2023, 8:44 AM
@Origame - because in a movie like this where action is a big part of the film, the fight coordinator is involved with these discussions with the director and producers because the fight needs to feel true to the characters and their abilities, while also making sure not to do something like have Shuri attack his wings if they don't grow back and they have plans for him to fly in future projects. They are much more involved than just "ok we're doing a fight scene today, is the choreography ready?"
Origame
Origame - 2/9/2023, 9:29 AM
@SATW42 - so...the fight choreographer, who may or may not be involved in those future projects, is privy to said knowledge for this specific movie?

And this is from the same studio giving actors partial scripts and revealing major plot details to them only when they went on set.
rychlec
rychlec - 2/9/2023, 9:59 AM
@Origame - And where was the fight coordinator to explain how Shuri does a 30 ft jump/flip immediately after being beaten and impaled?
Origame
Origame - 2/9/2023, 10:38 AM
@rychlec - you'd think that's something he should be discussing
SATW42
SATW42 - 2/9/2023, 12:29 PM
@Origame - I obviously wasn't in the room or on the set but likely they had a whiteboard conversation about what could and could not be done with the characters, abilities, strengths, weaknesses, etc. a fight coordinator would also ask questions like "can this happen?" "what happens when this happens?" especially in a fantastical movie, because obviously real people don't have wings on their feet. It's also entirely possible that the fight coordinator came up with the idea of attacking the wings, and would obviously need approval on that. If they didn't grow back and there are plans down the road for him to fly, the coordinator would be told "don't touch the wings" People with roles on sets like this also are less likely to accidentally slip in an interview or something, because they aren't doing interviews outside of things like this. Which always air after the fact, so while they sign the same NDAs actors do, they are less likely to accidentally slip like a Ruffalo.
Origame
Origame - 2/9/2023, 1:13 PM
@SATW42 - I've seen how they handled taskmaster. Those conversations are absolutely not happening.
SATW42
SATW42 - 2/9/2023, 2:23 PM
@Origame - so it was less a question about why a fight coordinator would be part of these conversations, which I tried to honestly answer, and more looking for that Marvel zing huh?
Origame
Origame - 2/9/2023, 2:40 PM
@SATW42 - actually my point was that we should take the "confirmation" with the same level as any scooper, because there's no reasonable reason for him to be given the information.

But anyway to consider me a hater. Truly the mindset of a fanboy.

But on a more serious note to your point, his ability to regrow his wings, since it clearly takes a while to do and won't factor into a fight scene, still isn't something required for him to do his job. This isn't wolverine, who heals almost instantly and would factor into a fight with him.
SATW42
SATW42 - 2/9/2023, 7:45 PM
@Origame - except, him not having his wings would factor into a fight, and like I said, someone would have to ok that if he can’t grow them back
SATW42
SATW42 - 2/9/2023, 7:55 PM
@Origame - why would marvel allow this to go out in official supplemental material? You also asked a question and I gave you a bunch of industry reasons why he’d have this info. I don’t know what else you need. Kevin Feige saying it himself and also naming the coordinator by name?
Origame
Origame - 2/9/2023, 8:41 PM
@SATW42 - him losing his wings isn't a point of discussion. It's the regrowing part that is. And yes, it being ok'd is important, that's not something the fight choreographer needs to be privy to.
Origame
Origame - 2/9/2023, 8:42 PM
@SATW42 - well your industry reasons are complete bs.

And if feige said, that should be what the article is about. Not the fight choreographer.
SATW42
SATW42 - 2/9/2023, 8:52 PM
@Origame - you clear don’t understand the role of a fight coordinator on a movie.
Origame
Origame - 2/9/2023, 9:06 PM
@SATW42 - ...you clearly don't, if you think namor growing back his ankle wings in between movies has anything to do with his job.

All a FIGHT CHOREOGRAPHER does is choreograph...FIGHTS!
SATW42
SATW42 - 2/9/2023, 9:55 PM
@Origame - yeah, so you don’t. Thanks
Origame
Origame - 2/10/2023, 4:38 AM
@SATW42 - ...wtf do you think their job is?
SATW42
SATW42 - 2/10/2023, 6:18 AM
@Origame - pretty sure I already explained it, but you didn’t like how they handled taskmaster so you don’t think these things happen.
Origame
Origame - 2/10/2023, 6:22 AM
@SATW42 - dude, did you not see how they handled taskmaster? She was beat by a move they already established she can counter easily in her introduction. They aren't having serious discussions of power sets.

Hell, they don't even care about their fight scenes that much, as evident by the recent reports from vfx artists about how marvel studios will literally just scrap their climactic battle and throw it to the vfx team to handle doing the whole thing again at the last minute.
SATW42
SATW42 - 2/10/2023, 8:46 AM
@Origame - So you were never seriously asking the question and either wanted to dunk on the article existing or a fight coordinators reliability and were interested in no answers. Got it.
Origame
Origame - 2/10/2023, 9:17 AM
@SATW42 - I mean, I made it no mystery that wasn't a legit question. Everyone else understood this.

But yes, if feige said it then that's who should be what the article is about. Not the fight choreographer.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 2/9/2023, 7:54 AM
Ñamor should have thrown Shuri into the middle of the ocean then swiftly took out RiRi and the midnight angels so they cant pick her up. Idk why I want Ñamor to win so bad, but I cant but overthink what i’d do in villains positions
mpk1988
mpk1988 - 2/9/2023, 8:00 AM
@Matchesz - same here man. Was somehow supporting Namor over Shuri. Shuri went from being a smart cool character to annoying in Avengers and subsequently Wakanda Forever..
imnotwearinghockeypants
imnotwearinghockeypants - 2/9/2023, 7:56 AM
Thanks for the spoiler.
WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 2/9/2023, 8:01 AM
Need more Namor already. He is a lot in Wakanda Forever thankfully, but I need to see him manipulate and seduce more Marvel characters asap.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/9/2023, 8:20 AM
That's obvious durr
BeNice123
BeNice123 - 2/9/2023, 8:36 AM
Im still disappointed the character was not comic accurate. I would have rather preferred he was greek descent.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 2/9/2023, 8:44 AM
Only newbs would think his little wingy wouldn’t grow back.
tb86
tb86 - 2/9/2023, 10:10 AM
IMCOOLURNOT
IMCOOLURNOT - 2/9/2023, 10:31 AM
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