CAPTAIN AMERICA Star Anthony Mackie Says MCU Makes It Hard To "Go Outside Of The Lines Of [The] Comic Books"

CAPTAIN AMERICA Star Anthony Mackie Says MCU Makes It Hard To "Go Outside Of The Lines Of [The] Comic Books"

Captain America: Brave New World star Anthony Mackie has described the MCU as a "space of controlled entertainment," and explains why he felt he had more freedom working on Twisted Metal. Check it out...

By JoshWilding - Mar 25, 2024 10:03 AM EST
Source: Radio Times

Twisted Metal has just premiered on the UK version of Paramount+ and Radio Times recently caught up with lead star Anthony Mackie. The show has a so-so 69% Rotten Tomatoes score and, like many streaming titles, it came and went last summer before being largely forgotten. 

That's unfortunate for Mackie, though he does have Captain America: Brave New World on the horizon. After wielding the shield for the first time in The Falcon and The Winter Soldier, the actor is going to suit up as the MCU's new Captain America in his own movie. 

However, it sounds like Mackie is all too aware of the restrictions a Marvel Studios role brings with it. 

"I would say the Marvel thing is completely different, just because it's such a space of controlled entertainment," he said when the site asked if his MCU work prepared him for the video game adaptation. "Like, there's only so much you can do. There's only so much creativity you can bring to the table, because Stan Lee gave us so much content.

"Whereas with this [Twisted Metal], it was like, 'There's a guy and a girl...go!' So we were really able to build the world around it."

Asked if that sort of freedom meant he and his fellow producers could shake things up in Twisted Metal by introducing new characters and unexpectedly killing people, Mackie added, "Exactly. And that's the hard thing about the Marvel universe. It's like, you can't really go outside of the lines of those comic books."

He added, "You know, when we introduced the Falcon, and the growth of the Falcon to Captain America, all of that had to coincide with what Stan had already gave us. So it's an interesting juggle to be a part of that world. And this was more like, 'Let's just have fun and figure it out as we go.'"

It doesn't appear as if Mackie is too bothered by the constraints of his MCU role, but is clearly well aware that "creative freedom" and "Marvel Studios" don't exactly go hand-in-hand!

Assuming they all make the cut following this summer's planned reshoots, Captain America: Brave New World stars Anthony Mackie, Harrison Ford, Danny Ramirez, Carl Lumbly, Tim Blake Nelson, Shira Haas, Liv Tyler, and WWE Superstar Seth Rollins.

Julius Onah helms the movie from a screenplay by Malcolm Spellman and Dalan Musson, though the director is believed to have also taken a pass at it. Matthew Orton, meanwhile, has written new scenes for the reshoots which are taking place later this year.

Captain America: Brave New World is set to arrive in theaters on February 14, 2025.

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soberchimera
soberchimera - 3/25/2024, 10:20 AM
They deviate from the comics all the time, sometimes for better, mostly for worst.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 3/25/2024, 10:25 AM
@soberchimera - Mostly worse.
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 3/25/2024, 10:26 AM
@soberchimera - the medium of film & tv is different from books and novels. You can’t tell the same story over two distinct formats because film and tv operates on a different level from literature. This is self explanatory of course. Studios and conglomerates such as Disney own IPs based on comic material but their objective is to make money to a designated target audience or demographic. They don’t care about the source material or if a live adaptation is as accurate to book as possible. They just wanna make bread and bank because it’s s lucrative business. Also the average film goer may not be an avid comicbook reader therefore they just paid to see a good movie. Movies based on fiction can never live up to a book. A film is more of a summarisation.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 3/25/2024, 10:27 AM
@soberchimera - But that’s what he’s saying. There’s only so much they can deviate before it goes wrong, as we all know.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 3/25/2024, 10:43 AM
@TheMetaMan - Sometimes changes are necessary in adaptation, but a lot of times they’re nonsensical and it’s the screenwriter/director trying to promote themselves than the source material because they think if they just copy the original story, they won’t get credit.
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/25/2024, 10:48 AM
@soberchimera - Definitely for the worst.
krayzeman
krayzeman - 3/25/2024, 11:24 AM
@TheMetaMan - speak louder. i dont think the3 people who complain so much about how these things are done heard you in the back
krayzeman
krayzeman - 3/25/2024, 11:28 AM
@TheMetaMan - If we really want to be honest as Marvel and DC stories go the best way to do them is episodically on TV because you can tell a more cohesive story without waiting years in between. Superhero comics are monthly in nature and TV best compliments that. The downside is the TV budgets dont accomadate the big spectacle stuff and you end up with what happen to The Flash on The CW and some of the other Arrowverse shows
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 3/25/2024, 12:19 PM
@soberchimera - 🤔🎯

RDJ: Created the Iron Man persona.

Anthony Mackie: kept Falcon as bland as he is un the comics. A good guy, but no real nuanced characteristics.

Think about it. It's easier to make characters a bit more bland in comics, because it allows the reader to implement portions of their own conscious to marry the story.

In film, there's much more need to display what the character is at the core. The way they speak, facial reactions, confined body types etc.

My suggestion: take a path. Run with it. Good or bad- OWN IT. And for the love of Black Jesus, please

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NOT THIS.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 3/25/2024, 12:21 PM
@KennKathleen - dammit 😑. I missed several commas. Figure it the f@$% out! [...damn edit lack].
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 3/25/2024, 12:24 PM
@krayzeman - Facts which is why I love the boys so much.
Spike101
Spike101 - 3/25/2024, 3:40 PM
@soberchimera - mostly worse
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 3/26/2024, 6:38 AM
@soberchimera - They've always deviated from the comics. And they always will.
LukeCage2155
LukeCage2155 - 3/25/2024, 10:20 AM
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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/25/2024, 10:23 AM
Idk about that since the MCU is different and is very much its own universe as opposed to just being a direct replication of 616 or Ultimate due to various changes etc.

I don’t mind it personally since like all these adaptations (some more loosely then others) , they just use the comics as a basis or foundation from which they can tell the story they want to tell so there’s still a certain degree of freedom there as opposed to Twisted Metal which is more loosely based on the source.

I guess Mackie means moreso coming from the perspective of an actor in that he can build the character more from the ground up in something like Twisted Metal while Sam is already more on the page and he just needs to bring it to alive with improvisations here & there which i get.

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Vigor
Vigor - 3/25/2024, 10:31 AM
@TheVisionary25 - I think he means, he can't just have an arm grow out of his stomach and punch people. He has to somewhat abide by how falcon and captain america were in the original comics
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/25/2024, 10:32 AM
@Vigor - possibly but idk how that would impact him

As an actor , I guess he can’t really have the freedom to play the character in a wildly different way then how he’s represented on the page (whether it be comics or script).
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 3/25/2024, 10:26 AM
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what are you talking about dude? i like him as a person but as a leading man he is bad. was bad in Altered Carbon, wasnt good in TFAWS and i doubt he'll be any better in this movie, which doesnt seem promising based on the writers and director. He is a much much better supporting actor
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 3/25/2024, 12:48 PM
@MotherGooseUPus -

He was cringe in twisted metal.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 3/25/2024, 1:04 PM
@HulkisHoly - i fully believe it
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 3/25/2024, 1:49 PM
@MotherGooseUPus -

Not saying he’s a bad actor but just not good enough to carry projects.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 3/25/2024, 2:24 PM
@HulkisHoly - yea, thats basically how i feel about him. not leading man, but good supporting actor
mountainman
mountainman - 3/25/2024, 10:29 AM
Haven’t seen Twisted Metal, so I have no opinion on it, but it certainly isn’t something with a beloved lore. When you adapt something, you have a responsibility to maintain what made the original so beloved.

Lord of the Rings did this. The first four seasons of Game of Thrones did this, and for the most part, the MCU did this for a long time.

Changes are not necessarily bad. Most fans were ok with the minor changes Peter Jackson made to fit LOTR into the three movies. In the beginning seasons of Game of Thrones, some changes were improvements - like Arya being Tywin’s cup bearer instead of Roose Bolton’s in the books.

Civil War streamlined the conflict vs the comic, but the core conflict of Steve (no registration) vs Tony (registration) was still there.

Infinity War was different from the Infinity Gauntlet comic book - with the most notable change was removing Death and Adam Warlock, but the core elements of it were still there.

There are over 60 years of books to pull from. Being “restricted” to the comics isn’t nearly as restrictive as a book adaptation where there is far less source material to pull from.
dragon316
dragon316 - 3/25/2024, 10:31 AM
@mountainman - that and race swap and gender characters to add to it is another to put in list
Origame
Origame - 3/25/2024, 11:28 AM
@mountainman - I mean, twisted metal does have some interesting lore behind it. Basically along the lines of mortal kombat, but with psychopaths and essentially the devil.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 3/25/2024, 11:55 AM
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mountainman
mountainman - 3/25/2024, 12:03 PM
@Origame - Oh I know it has a lore, but it isn’t a narrative driven game. I’d say that the car combat and wacky characters are more known to people than the story specifics.

It’s not like Last of Us or Uncharted that are specifically narrative driven games. And look at the adaptations for both. LOA was mostly accurate to the game and was very well received. Uncharted deviated quite a bit from the games and was not.

Overall I think games have a bit more flexibility, because individual players can have different experiences playing them, vs book or comic adaptations have a set established look, feel, and story.

I’m sure as a creative it has to feel a bit restrictive to have limits on what you can change and make your own, but it is what it is with adaptations. You are adapting something. You have to honor it to some extent. Be as original as you want with original IP.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 3/25/2024, 12:25 PM
@mountainman - This. Also, the fact that comics are open ended - the characters can be in High School for 40 years if need be - they don't age out - also, the idea in comics is to NOT deviate too terribly far from the basic storytelling engines that allow for decades of stories vs. RDJ dies on screen while aging out of the character.

It's a double edged sword but they often do shit in movies that makes sense in the moment but turns off the storytelling engine.

The Blip was [frick]ing dumb. The only thing about Infinity Saga I would change - it made for 20 minutes of compelling movie and years of stepping on their dicks to work around it.

The D+ deviations make their own gravy and will go out of business on their own...
Matchesz
Matchesz - 3/25/2024, 10:30 AM
Too many yes men at Disney/Marvel not enough Ike and Nelson Peltz types.
Vigor
Vigor - 3/25/2024, 10:33 AM
@Matchesz - ahhh I knew that guy would be your new deity
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 3/25/2024, 10:35 AM
@Matchesz - Let’s make Marvel great again ✊🏻
Matchesz
Matchesz - 3/25/2024, 10:37 AM
@Vigor - I like people who go against the grain, it's not necessarily that I like them but they would have been for sure against a mute female Taskmaster or Gaia killing Super Skrull through the power of the MCU that much I know.
Vigor
Vigor - 3/25/2024, 10:44 AM
@Matchesz - now those two examples I could 100% agree with!
Vigor
Vigor - 3/25/2024, 10:33 AM
That's funny because if you were to ask some people here, disney doesn't follow the comics. (But of course those people are really lamenting the fact a character is a white male in the comics and has a different skin color in the movies).

Anthony isn't posing this as a negative. These guard rails is what got my attached to the mcu from Iron man and on. Because they didn't just throw people in black leather suits and call it a day like fox did
GeneralChaos
GeneralChaos - 3/25/2024, 10:39 AM
You're trying to make it sound controversial but he's as limited as any adaptation would be, not to mention how the MCU has strayed away from their comic book storylines again and again.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 3/25/2024, 10:46 AM
@GeneralChaos - They stray from the comics about 80% of the time, they've actually gone so far out of the way to stray from the comic that they've written themselves into several corners.
GeneralChaos
GeneralChaos - 3/25/2024, 10:49 AM
@Matchesz - And he wasn't even necessarily complaining about it, just pointing out how Twisted Metal has no real mythos and legacy that they needed to adhere to.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 3/25/2024, 10:54 AM
@GeneralChaos - Oh no I wasnt sayin nothing on Mackie, just attacking Disney. :)
bobevanz
bobevanz - 3/25/2024, 10:58 AM
Twisted Metal was a surprise hit for me last year, now give me a game reboot!
PatientXero
PatientXero - 3/25/2024, 11:00 AM
Not really.
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