DC Continues To Show That It's The Reigning Champion Of The Gimmick Comic

DC Continues To Show That It's The Reigning Champion Of The Gimmick Comic

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Editorial Opinion
By thatscottguy - Jun 21, 2011 09:06 PM EST
Filed Under: DC Comics
Source: DCComics.com

Ok, so DC announced at the end of May that they are going to essentially revamp their entire line of comics in order to, "give new readers a precise entry point into our titles." I've been thinking about this for a while now. At first I was completely against it. And now? I'm completely against it and angered by it.

Really, why do we need every issue to start from scratch? When I started reading comics back in the early 80's I had to figure out what happened before as I was reading (remember the footnotes that used to be in comics that would tell you what issue was being referenced?). That was part of the fun when I was a kid. It made me feel that I just walked into a whole new world and I was a stranger who had to make friends and get to know these weird people. And they were always easy to befriend because they never rejected you. I got to learn about their lives. I got to grow with some of them. And I got to feel their emotions over a lost comrade with them (and for the most part I got to be shocked when that comrade came back to life with them too). Starting from scratch is going to ruin that whole experience for kids starting to read these comics. Sure, the new readers will be able to relate to the characters more with the new modernization of them. But really, does that matter so much when it's the ideas that count?

In my opinion, what it really boils down to is this; GIMMICK!

Remember when DC started the biggest streak of gimmicks in comic book history with The Death Of Superman? Everyone knew that Superman was going to die. And everyone had to have that issue. Whether the person read comics or not, it was something they had to have. Sure, it revitalized a dying industry, people who didn't read comics bought up as many copies of the Death Of Superman issue as they could get their hands on, lured in more so by the sealed bag promising that the value of an unopened copy would soar. And the non-readers needed a copy to actually read, they were in the know with what happened then. And after that, well, you have more sealed bags, collectors trading cards in the comics, hologram covers, multiple covers and a whole load of other useless crap.

And DC knew what was going to happen. There is no way they couldn't have. They printed so many of these comics that people assumed would be worth loads of money, that they're essentially worth no more than the original cover price now. How many times has someone told you that they have copy of the Death Of Superman issue "still in the sealed bag" and tried to sell it to you, only to be completely confused when you tell them how little it's worth? And if DC didn't know that gimmick was going to work, why was the crippling of Batman done so soon after the whole Death Of Superman fiasco?

That's what DC is doing again. They're not trying to appeal to a new audience. People either are or aren't going to read the comics whether they revamp them or not. But you are going to see a whole load of people buying up these issue #1's figuring that they'll be able to make some good money off of them. But they're screwing themselves over because they would have made a ton of money off of Action Comics #1000 if it came out in a few years.

Oh well, rant over.

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ellispart3
ellispart3 - 6/21/2011, 9:25 PM
well said..or ranted..either or i agree with you. they are trying to expand their readership by giving people a jump on point and the fact that they feel they need to revamp everything to do it feels kind of like DC gave up trying to be creative. i dont know what can be done to increase the number of readers, more digital comics maybe? Motion comics? more tv or web series? ive got no clue.
thatscottguy
thatscottguy - 6/22/2011, 12:02 AM
they're doing every issue from the start of the revamp on as online comics too, so they at least got that right because it is a good idea. it does make it easier to access comics. I like the idea of more tv series and more movies too for that matter (i'm planning on a rant about comic movies and all of the hate they get from fans soon) anything that opens the medium up to new readers is good in my books...IF they are through a different medium (ie. movies, tv, internet, etc... as opposed to messing with the actual comics)
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/22/2011, 5:06 AM
its totally unfair to say that DC is just using this as a gimmick, and act like Marvel isn't guilty of the same thing.

if you've been paying attention, Marvel is rebooting tons of their comics with a #1 issue. sure, they may not be rebooting the character histories and everything, but its just a gimmick as well. its just a reason to put a #1 on an issue and try to dupe people into thinking its a collector item. do you honestly think Moon Knight has needed three new #1 issues in the past 5 years? if so, then you're crazy.

or how about the recent news of Uncanny X-Men getting cancelled after Schism, only to be rebooted with a #1 issue a month or two later? guess what? thats a gimmick too!

or how about big named characters constantly getting killed off in any semi-important story arc, only to be revived anywhere from 6 months to a few years later? surprise! thats just a gimmick to get people to want to buy an issue with a major character death. open your eyes people! its all a gimmick, its the nature of comics.

You bring up old stuff like Death of Superman, well how about Marvel's Heroes Reborn? let me refresh your memory. Marvel rebooted their entire company with the exception of the x-books. they re-started all their characters with new origins and backstories. sound familiar? oh yeah, its the same exact thing DC is doing now.

do i agree with DC's company wide reboot? i'm not sure yet. but to act like Marvel isn't guilty of using just as many gimmicks is ludicrous, and just shows either your prejudice to DC, or your blind loyalty to Marvel.

I love this site, but I swear, i've never seen a bigger bunch of people taht trash DC and act like Marvel is the messiah of the comic industry. The constant war between companies that people on this site are always trying to incite is just stupid, especially since most of the Marvel fanboys haven't even given DC a fair chance, and know next to nothing about the DC universe.

do yourselves a favor. give the reboot a chance before you bash it. You might like it. but no, instead people would rather condemn it before it even happens. way to give Marvel fans a close-minded reputation, people.

Also, don't act like DC isn't in serious need of a change. Their continuity has been boofed ever since they started with all the Crisis series. have they made some bad decisions? yes, but a company wide reboot is much better than continuing with a broken continuity.

thatscottguy
thatscottguy - 6/22/2011, 11:13 AM
I'm not saying that Marvel is the "messiah" of the comic companies. And that's mainly because I don't pay attention to Marvel very much (or haven't in a long time) because I find the stuff that they put out fall far in comparison to the comics that DC puts out. I have always been a huge fan of DC and that's why it angers me when they constantly do this kind of crap. I couldn't give a rats ass about what Marvel does because they haven't done anything worth while in my mind in over a decade.

And yes, DC's continuity is all over the place. It has been for a long time. Do I think they need to do something to fix that? Yes, of course. But they've been trying to do that for years and it keeps getting even more confusing every time they try. But do I think starting all over again is the answer? No, definitely not.

So yeah, please don't call me a Marvel fanboy. I just get angry at the ones I love easier and DC is the one I love.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/22/2011, 11:21 AM
@ thatscottguy

don't take that the wrong way, i didn't mean YOU were a marvel fanboy, just looking at you pics shows that isn't the case. i meant most people on this site. so sorry for that.

but in all fairness, DC does it to themselves. They got rid of the Multiverse back in the day because since the Crisis series', it screwed up their continuity. So what do they do years later? reintroduce the multiverse during 52. they had to know that would screw up continuity again. but i guess they didn't care.

anyway, my whole point was that it wasn't just DC that pulls these gimmicks. Marvel is pretty bad too. Its really just the way of the comic book industry. they're constantly trying to find new ways to sell books. its the way of the entire industry.

oh, and though it might seem like a bad idea to just forget everything thats come before, you never know, it might turn out to make the DCU a much more streamlined and sensical world. Give it a chance! you never know, you might like it! :)
ellispart3
ellispart3 - 6/22/2011, 12:18 PM
@CorndogBurglar and @thatscottguy very good points...this is an industry issue, not so much a marvel v dc. The over the top crossover events that are later cleaned up to go back to a 'status quo' is just annoying now. dc has their 52 this and that while marvel hasn't stopped crossing over comics since house of m. but it is what it is, i just have to take joy in reading my old runs on books and hope for more substance in the future.
thatscottguy
thatscottguy - 6/22/2011, 2:07 PM
@corndogburglar well said and very true. i guess it just has a lot to do with how long the big two companies have been going for. I'm still going to give the reboots a chance, but right now it annoys me. let's just hope they prove me wrong.
and the bit about gimmicks, i just meant by the title of the article that DC seems to take the cake when it comes to these gimmicks. marvel does it a lot too, dc just seems to be the forerunner when it comes to gimmicks

@ellispart3 exactly, well said
golden123
golden123 - 6/22/2011, 3:00 PM
uuuummmmmmm...there is one big problem with this article, and that would be that this resarting of DC issues to #1 isn't a reboot. It's simply just restarting the numbering of ongoing series, getting rid of the comics that don't sell well, and putting some new comics in that might hit it big. The history of the DC universe will be changed a little bit although things are always retconned exspecially after a crisis or big event which in this case would be Flashpoint. Cetain titles will have their first storyline in the past to explain their new updated origin, but will be set in the present after that arc. Most of the pre-Flashpoint continuity will still apply after the revamp.
ellispart3
ellispart3 - 6/22/2011, 3:53 PM
@golden123 true, not a complete reboot, history will stay intact for the most part it sounds like with just a few changes to the origin. my issue is, was all this needed to begin with? it feels gimmicky and out of nowhere (i'm sure the big wigs have had this in mind for sometime, but it feels 'all of a sudden'). yes comic books are full of retconning and readjusting aspects in a characters past to continue in a different direction, but is it necessary to do? i dont mind crossovers and large scale events, in fact i love when they do them, in moderation, and after a natural progression to that point. the DCnU doesn't feel like it was natural or needed. then again thats just my opinon.
golden123
golden123 - 6/22/2011, 5:35 PM
@ellispart3: I would like to know how you think they could of done the revamp without it seeming like it's "out of nowhere" by the fans standard.

As far as retconning goes, just think about the expression "for better or for worse". Somethings need to change, others don't.

But most importantly, this was needed, from the eyes of DC, because comics are a very invisible, under the radar form of entertainment. this revamp allowed them to get media coverage and reach out or appeal to those who have never touched a comic book but are interested in the superhero genre(due to movies), lost touch with the comic book world, or read other companies that aren't DC. This revamp makes outsiders, to DC, feel better about coming in and reading their material. I think this would be a good time to point out that, as of 2009, in America (where DC is located, and the nation with the third largest population) only about 500,000 people read comics. That's not alot. Now imagine what number you would get if you took out all the Anime, Manga, Image, Marvel, Darkhorse, and etc. readers that don't read DC.
ellispart3
ellispart3 - 6/22/2011, 6:58 PM
@golden123 its true the industry is hurting and they do need to do something to attract new readers..i'm not going to act like i have all the answers. but with this event atleast, it's been on the radar for atleast a month and will take place in september and is pretty big. something like this you usually see hints or signs of it coming. and with the changes that are happening, it just seems unnessesary. that is a gimmick, good or bad, like it or not, its a stunt to try and bring in new readers.
thatscottguy
thatscottguy - 6/22/2011, 7:12 PM
@golden123 you say that the big problem with my article is that it's not a reboot at all and later you say that it is a revamp. if you read the article you won't see the word "reboot" once (you will in comments, yes. but not in the article) but you will see the word "revamp" a couple of times. So I'm confused, you're biggest problem with the article is something that was never said in the article?
golden123
golden123 - 6/22/2011, 8:43 PM
@thatscottguy: I never said you used the word reboot, now did I? (see we can both play this game) Anyways, it is all about paragraph two of your article. Read that paragraph and honestly tell me that I can't infer that you think this is a reboot, whether you use the word or not. Just so you can understand better here are the definitions of Reboot (via wikipedia because all of the other definitions of reboot deal with computers) and Revamp (via the first result that popped up on google)...

The term reboot, in media dealing with serial fiction, means to discard much or even all previous continuity in the series and start anew with fresh ideas. Effectively, all established fictive history is declared by the writer(s) to be null and void, or at least irrelevant to the new storyline, and the series starts over as if brand-new.

Revamp
Verb-Give new and improved form, structure, or appearance to
Noun-1.An act of improving the form, structure, or appearance of something
2.A new and improved version

If I need to explain more, then do tell.
thatscottguy
thatscottguy - 6/22/2011, 9:21 PM
after reading it again, i can definitely tell why you thought what you thought. but honestly, it was not what i meant at all. and really, being snarky will get you nowhere with anyone
golden123
golden123 - 6/23/2011, 5:36 AM
@thatscottguy: I apologize if i came off as snarky. I was just trying to get the upperhand in this little debate by typing up what I thought. No hard feelings. If you noticed my first line I wrote in my last comment was followed by a line that eased the tension. It let you know I was poking fun.
thatscottguy
thatscottguy - 6/23/2011, 9:18 AM
@golden123 all forgiven. you did bring up a good point too by the way. i did come off making it look as if it was a complete reboot and your comments will let anyone else who reads this realize that it isnt
marvelguy
marvelguy - 6/23/2011, 11:05 PM
Unfortunately, I'm old enough to remember when they did this last time without changing costumes. In the mid 1980's, they rebooted most everyone. John Byrne revamped Superman in a way that he stayed super yet had new limits. Wonder Woman was re-booted as well. She would be even more revamped by Byrne a few years later.
I digress. It will all reverted and retcon when a new writer/editor team or flagging sales deem it.
Their lack of success in movies suggests that this may be a greater part of tying the two media together.
SteveRogers
SteveRogers - 7/1/2011, 5:49 PM
I understand that in the new, PC version of Tom Sawyer, Huck Finn wears armor and is secretly in love with Aunt Polly. Jim and Becky share a dark secret that, if spoken, could change the course of the mighty Mississippi. But, what the hey? Mark Twain is dead. He's gonna complain?
More armor, I say. BTW, Tom is a girl. And she has a sword named Excalibur! Woooooooooo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-oo!!
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