Retro Review: THE MIGHTY THOR #385

Retro Review: THE MIGHTY THOR #385

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Review Opinion
By Destroyer14 - Dec 31, 2011 02:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics
Source: My Blog



We read comics mainly for their interesting, world destructive, and sometimes strange stories. The other reason is for the fights, the battles between these many characters. I've noticed that today in comics the fights have been, well, short. Fights barely last over a few pages these days, the last good one I read was Venom vs. Cap in Venom #9. It was a good, detailed fight, but was extremely short. I can't even remember the last good one-on-one fight in Amazing Spider-Man. It's sad. The fight in this issue I gotta say is the definition of a 'battle' in comics. Blows are felt, it's of epic proportions. This is definitely the greatest fight I've ever read in a comic.

In terms of story, there isn't really any. It's a complete filler issue, but that's okay. We're here for the fight on the cover. Putting two popular characters fighting on the cover is a marketing strategy. Sometimes the fight itself doesn't last more than four pages, it's pure marketing sometimes. This issue, however, provides exactly what's on the cover: Thor vs. Hulk. These two are some of Marvel's biggest rivals, it's been debated by fans who would win for years. They've had a lot of great confrontations in the past, I've chosen this issue. The cover is pretty iconic, it stood out while browsing for issues. Very classic poses, the simple white background was perfect. It gives the two characters more of a focus.


Remember the animated film Hulk vs. Thor where Hulk completely beat Thor to a pulp? Yeah, Thor fans are still sad over it. That's not how it would go down, this issue is how it would be. You can never tell who's going to win, it looks like Hulk has the upper hand, then Thor makes a comeback. Evenly matched, with such detailed blows. I'm not going to pretend this comic is deep or anything, cause it's not. It's a battle, it's not world-changing or a status quo update, it's just a darn fun comic. It's also interesting cause Hulk at this time was apparently was separated from Bruce Banner. So he's back to being a cold beast, but not mindless. He actually takes a hostage and tells Thor to fight without his hammer. Wow. I especially liked the beginning where Hulk runs into a family and they're like "Don't! Please! we--we've done nothing to you!" Then Hulk replies "Hulk needs no excuse!" A great scene is when Hulk seemingly wins by smashing Thor with a train. Then Thor's arm emerges and punches Him. Good stuff.

The dialogue between the two titans is just great. (The script was done by Stan Lee after all.) Trash talking the whole time, it really makes the battle more fun. (It just adds to the scope.) It was great seeing Thor fight WITHOUT his hammer for a bit. At first, it seemed like Hulk was going to win, but Thor kept coming through with his strength. Thor may not be as powerful without Mjolnir, but he's still the Thunder God, he could still fight well without it. So many great attacks from both characters, there's this great scene where Hulk emerges from a fire looking like he merged with the Human Torch. And what's with the beginning where a robber thinks he can beat Thor with a gun? Strange, very strange.

Overall, The Mighty Thor #385 is a simple issue. But whoever said simple can't be epic? This comic has one of the most epic battles in comic book history. The whole issue is a fight between titans. You want a REAL Hulk vs. Thor? This issue has it. The fight is detailed and 'awesome.' The only thing I didn't like was the ending. As you probably guessed, there is no winner. It's not a total cop-out, but it would have been nice for a victor. It doesn't ruin the comic however. If you're looking for a real comic book fight, this is what to get. If only today's comics could be almost as epic in the fights department.

10/10.

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bleedthefreak
bleedthefreak - 12/31/2011, 3:11 PM
You need to review an infamously bad issue next.
JohnWilbanks
JohnWilbanks - 12/31/2011, 3:18 PM
Great issue! I remember buying that issue at the local gas station as a kid!
Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 12/31/2011, 3:34 PM
Reviewing an infamously bad issue would be an interesting change of pace.
ScionStorm
ScionStorm - 12/31/2011, 3:40 PM
^Last issue of OMD. lol
Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 12/31/2011, 3:48 PM
Well, that issue wasn't bad, it was the outcome that was bad.
MaddMonkk
MaddMonkk - 12/31/2011, 4:14 PM
Excellent review. This is one of my favorites.
captainbeta
captainbeta - 12/31/2011, 4:46 PM
One of my most favorite in my collection. I agree that fights have been very short lately in Marvel. Fear Itself had the opportunity with Thor vs Thing/Hulk, but again it comes up short. As for the Hulk vs. Thor movie, I too, was pissed. No way would that fight be like that. Thor is more powerful then he is given credit for or written for. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! Avengers Assemble in 2012!
spiderneil
spiderneil - 12/31/2011, 4:47 PM
brilliant issue. I love how thor completely dominants hulks and hulk has to get thor to throw away the hammer.
I saw it as thor was clearly winning with the hammer but hulk is winning without the hammer
spiderneil
spiderneil - 12/31/2011, 4:49 PM
to be fair in the hulk v thor movie thor was holding back because he thought banner was part of hulk but hulk wasn't holding back at all.
niknik
niknik - 12/31/2011, 5:16 PM
Many may not realize it but that issue was sort of an homage to the original epic slug fest between the two back in Thor 112. Also in that issue Thor gets permission from Odin I believe to fight without his hammer past the 60 second mark where he would normally revert to Blake.That entire comic was devoted to one big slugfest as well, and was a Stan Lee\Jack Kirby classic.
superotherside
superotherside - 12/31/2011, 6:55 PM
Yeah, the good old Stan Lee fights are really some of the best. :)
superotherside
superotherside - 12/31/2011, 6:55 PM
Oh and great review btw bro. ;)
grandizer74
grandizer74 - 12/31/2011, 8:00 PM
this can't be a 10/10. al milgrom did the cover and he's the worst artist in all of recorded history.
mstaley3000
mstaley3000 - 12/31/2011, 8:47 PM
@grandizer74 - Then you must not consider Rob Liefeld an artist or perhaps a part of recorded history.
Jolt17
Jolt17 - 12/31/2011, 9:14 PM
Great review as usual, man. But indeed, try something bad...because I've never seen a score lower than 9/10 in any of your retro review! :P

As for the issue, wow, that looks damn interesting. And in a battle between two heroes like that, it's completely something usual to have no winner in the end, eh?
drykillogic22
drykillogic22 - 12/31/2011, 9:18 PM
Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 12/31/2011, 9:36 PM
@Jolt Usually for the retro review I like to review the best of the best, hence the high score every time. I really should review a bad issue for the fun of it. And to answer your question, it's not that it's unusual. More like, at the time, there was never a 'clear' winner in any of their battles. And that if Thor won, Hulk fans would riot, and if Thor won, Hulk fans would riot. It was all during that time.
Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 12/31/2011, 9:42 PM
Thanks guys and Happy New Year.
Jolt17
Jolt17 - 12/31/2011, 10:28 PM
Destroyer: Try an issue that you thought would be great but end up letting you down. And actually, that question is meant to be kind of rhetorical. :P But yeah, I see.

I rarely read stories like this, though from what I know the likes of Superman vs. Flash speed race ended up with a villain's interruption, and the heroes teaming-up instead, etc., so I think it's a common thing to happen in this kind of issues. Whatever, I guess.

Oh, and happy new year, everyone!
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/1/2012, 2:24 AM
yeah mate good reveiw,i got this issue from when it first came out.

excellent one of the greatest fights ever!
Seejay
Seejay - 1/1/2012, 2:56 AM
Scholes60
Scholes60 - 1/1/2012, 4:53 AM
I remember this as if it were yesterday. To me, this particular comic, was the classic encounter between these two behemoths.

Needless to say the relative strength and power of Thor and the Hulk has been the subject of heated debate between fans for decades. Yet I feel this particular comic contains something that should satisfy both Hulk and Thor fans.

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Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 1/1/2012, 7:39 AM
@Fitz3241 Since there was very little story and that the script carried the issue, I thought it was just necessary to mention Stan "The Man" Lee. Next week, if things go as planned, the issue I'll be reviewing will be necessary to mention the whole team.
esoules84
esoules84 - 1/1/2012, 4:03 PM
Awesome review, can't wait for more!
grandizer74
grandizer74 - 1/1/2012, 5:49 PM
@fitz3241 you're right, good catch there. however, I'm not a frenz fan either. he's in my top 3 worst artists ever: 1. Al Milgrom 2. Keith Pollard 3. Ron Frenz. I can't stand his style. he's basically a jack kirby cover band.
spiderneil
spiderneil - 1/1/2012, 6:24 PM
it's worth nothing that thor gave hulk such a beating with the hammer that hulk refused to fight him until he throw the hammer away and then hulk refused to fight him again when the hammer returned.
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