What X-Men Could Learn from Spider-Man: Homecoming

What X-Men Could Learn from Spider-Man: Homecoming

Although I enjoyed X-Men: Apocalypse, it is leagues above most of Marvel movies, there was one shiny spot in particular that didn't get exposed enough. If what I'm right about Spider-Man: Homecoming, it has the Harry Potter element that the next X-Men film desperately needs.

Editorial Opinion
By Yaf - Aug 09, 2016 12:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics
The Harry Potter Connection:

Harry Potter is a clear cut carbon copy of X-Men in some respects. Gifted youngster with unfathomable powers gets accepted into a special institute created by an old man for children with powers. The story of any random mutant in the Marvel universe or Harry Potter? Choose your pick. I mean, Professor X is pretty much a crippled Dumbledore. X-Men and Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (not Sorcerer's you Americans!) both came out in the same year. While one franchise, even in the novels, showed a sheltered, not so racist world between those with powers and those without whereas the other displayed the racist, discriminatory attitudes that do marr our everyday world. That isn't to say that Harry Potter never got to exploring these issues, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets started a trend of exploring inter-wizard relationships, especially between those of purebloods, half-bloods and mudbloods. An interesting parlay, sure, but it doesn't hold a candle to human-mutant politics. The focus on human-mutant politics, though, never allowed X-Men to showcase and focus around Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters.

How Has the School Been Used?:

Instead, in each film, we get a storyline that is based around the school while never actually delving into it. X-Men showed us plenty of glimpses of the school, shots of Professor Xavier teaching, kids fooling around in class and using powers while playing basketball. At most, though, they were just glimpses and through her brief time at the school in the film (before Magneto kidnaps her), Rogue was our conduit to school life. In X2, students are kidnapped or on vacation I believe and we again don't see school life at all beyond a field trip in the beginning. Yet that field trip scene is one but many exceptional scenes in an exceptional movie. Then there's X-Men: The Last Stand, which tries to give a bit more of the school but then Professor X dies. X-Men Origins: Wolverine doesn't include the school, X-Men: First Class is set before the school and X-Men: Days of Future Past is set when the school is closed. Now I'm a fan of all but two of the films listed in this paragraph, but it's not hard to accept that the X-Men film series haven't utilized the school on Graymalkin drive very well.

What is Spider-Man: Homecoming Doing?:

In Spider-Man: Homecoming we are getting a pure, unadulterated high school Spider-Man movie. The Sam Raimi trilogy, which is the golden standard of Marvel comic book movie trilogies (Captain America: The First Avenger pales in comparison to even Spider-Man 3), only featured high school for a little bit of Spider-Man. We did get that amazing food fight sequence though, nerdy Peter at the field trip - two scenes which showed a Spider-Man movie at high school could work. Now the Marc Webb series were both mostly set in high school if I reclal correctly, but were more focused on teen romance. Now I have my doubts about Jon Watts, most of his movies have been trash, and the original announced screenwriters were ill suited for the job, and then when I found out there were four more screenwriters? From a production standpoint, that all seems wrong... yet everything I hear about the movie persuades me otherwise. Sure Spider-Man was only in high school for around thirty issues of the comic, but it still proved to be the genesis of his character. It's in the high school issues he becomes Spider-Man, meets Mary Jane, overcomes his bullies and fights the likes of Dr. Octopus and the Green Goblin. So Spider-Man: Homecoming is doing exactly what those first thirty-so issues did, giving us the genesis of Spider-Man. The sequels too will be in high school, and I'm all right with that.

I'm not sure if it was Jon Watts or one of the six screenwriters who brought it up, but they mentioned a Harry Potter parallel with Spider-Man: Homecoming. Sure, in terms of Spider-Man it can only go so far as him being in school and maybe each film being set in another school year. First film is Grade Eleven, then Grade Twelve and then university - like year one, year two and then year three. Same concept, right? They've changed it so that the high school cast are also in parallels. Flash Thompson will take on Draco Malfoy like presence, the Hobgoblin fat Ned Leeds will be Ron Weasely and such. His high school class will be a huge part of making the movie a film like Harry Potter. In a way, that's what Spider-Man: Homecoming is trying to do, fill in the void left by Harry Potter that City of Bones, The Hunger Games, Divergent and the Maze Runner all failed to do.

So What Should the Next X-Men Film do?:

Fill the void left by the Harry Potter film series. As much as it wants to, Spider-Man: Homecoming won't be able to do it because Spider-Man is the only superpowered high schooler that we care about at that school. Their Ned Leeds isn't becoming Hobgoblin, their Flash Thompson isn't becoming Venom, their Gwen Stacy isn't becoming Gwenpool and their Michelle isn't becoming the female White Tiger. Plus, their teachers aren't going to start teaching them how to control their powers and be an integral, productive part of society. If they did that, then yeah, Spider-Man: Homecoming could fill in the Harry Potter void, but then it wouldn't be a Spider-Man movie anymore. However, what Spider-Man is attempting to do is what X-Men could learn from Spider-Man: Homecoming.

What were the best scenes of X-Men: Apocalypse? Pretty much every scene centered around the school. It was fun seeing McAvoy's Professor X teach like Stewart's did. It was fun seeing what little we did of the mall scene where teenagers were teenagers. It was especially fun seeing Quicksilver rescue everyone frozen doing their high school antics from the X-Jet blast. To some, the movie falls apart after that. I still love it, but that analysis is an editorial for another time. The point is, this movie had the most memorable high school scenes. Yet they weren't enough, what they did prove was what the next X-Men movie should do.

That's be like Harry Potter, which is ironic because Harry Potter was like the X-Men. Set the next X-Men a year after the fight with Apocalypse or a month afterwards. Put the aftermath of that destructive battle in the background, address it but don't make your plot obsess over it. We saw that movie several times already. Now show us a film where Beast teaches mutant basketball, where Professor X gives one on one classes to Scott Summers to try and get him to calm down. Kind of like the mutant lessons in X-Men: First Class, but slowed down because this time, it is the focus. Of course you need an antagonist and you need a way to nerf Professor X, but rather than be secondary to the plot of Jean, Scott, Kurt and Ororo being teenagers, it should supplement it.

Maybe Apocalypse wasn't eradicated and still has a mental presence in the Astral Plane, which he uses to disturb Professor Xavier from. Perhaps Mister Sinister and his Marauders are on a collision course with the school, with trying to get the DNA of Scott and Jean. Whatever the case, it has to supplement rather than hinder. Case in point, mutant cure hindering the Phoenix plot.

In Conclusion:

I loved X-Men: Apocalypse, but it's not hard to deny that while there were several reasons it got the undeserved score it did (chiefly the marketing campaign and Kinberg), there were sequences, not just moments, in the film that felt amazing. Which sequences were those? The same ones the X-Men comics laid the foundation of their multi-million dollar franchise with by introducing us to Professor X teaching Scott Summers, Jean Grey, Hank McCoy, Warren Worthington III and Bobby Drake all those years ago. There were sequences in this film that capitalized on that genesis and if the next X-Men film manages to do it as well, I'd say we're in for a treat everybody.
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kong
kong - 8/9/2016, 12:55 AM
I love and agree with this idea,

Problem is that the X-Men universe is so [frick]ed up by now I don't want to see this with the current cast.

I'd rather FOX just stop making X-Men movies (other than Deadpool) and turn to TV for the X-Men. Legion's trailer was dope, and a X-Men TV series could really capture the high-school elements of the X-Men. I say put it on HBO or Netflix. Either would be great.

And also KEEP SINGER, KINBERG, SCHULER DONNER, AND EVERYONE ELSE AWAY! We need fresh eyes on the X-Men franchise, not the same tired people.
Dwise1
Dwise1 - 8/9/2016, 5:25 AM
Stupid post, homecoming is not even out or even finished filming and you want another movie to learn from it...what if homecoming flops wouldn't that make you look foolish
Yaf
Yaf - 8/9/2016, 8:44 AM
@Dwise1 - Maybe you should read my article, it's not about what Homecoming has done. It's about what it's trying to do.
JustAChillFan
JustAChillFan - 8/9/2016, 10:22 AM
@Yaf - how has most of jon watts films been trash? he has only done 2 and they were fairly well received. just curious what you meant by that is all
Yaf
Yaf - 8/9/2016, 1:25 PM
@JustAChillFan - I hated Clown, but critically it was divisive and while Cop Car got better reviews, it was still average. His films seem to have been going for that indie darling reception, but never got them and he really just seems to be another Marc Webb.
JustAChillFan
JustAChillFan - 8/9/2016, 2:59 PM
@Yaf - that's fine but it is misleading when you say his films are just simply trash when that's only your opinion. Not saying you're wrong in anyway or anything just that's how it comes across.
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 8/9/2016, 11:10 AM
I find this article quite hard to understand. I read through the whole thing and I just don't get the Harry Potter angle (maybe that's just me). In my opinion the X-Men films should try learning from ACTUAL X-MEN COMICS. I haven't seen Apocalypse so maybe it's great, but the reason i haven't seen it is because the franchise lost me with First Class and DOFP, both of which i did not enjoy at all.

And i know you state in the headline that Apocalypse is "leagues above most of Marvel movies" (which is stated like a fact but is in fact a poorly worded opinion) but this is from the guy that thinks DOFP is better than Winter Soldier so i'm thinking that our viewpoints just don't match up.
Yaf
Yaf - 8/9/2016, 1:22 PM
@TheManWithoutFear - I would argue that Days of Future Past is probably the best movie based off of a Marvel comic since Spider-Man 2. Is it the best comic book adaptation, [frick] no, but is it an amazing film? Yeah. However, that's a different discussion completely so I'll just refrain from that.

Is X-Men: Apocalypse better than Civil War, Winter Soldier, Iron Man, Blade II, Spider-Man 2, the Avengers or that upper echelon of Marvel films? No. But it is better than the likes of Thor: The Dark World, Iron Man II, Iron Man III (which I did like), Spider-Man III and such. It's a very divisive movie though, the fact that it basically has 50% on Rotten Tomatoes indicates that it divided critics as well.

My Harry Potter point can be summed up as such: Hogwarts in film (and book) was a better adaptation of the comic book Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters than the film version of Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters. The strongest X-Men films, X2 and Days of Future Past, disregarded the school completely, but movies like X-Men and X-Men: Apocalypse showed that the school setting is very appealing. Essentially, Spider-Man: Homecoming is using the genesis of the Spider-Man comics to make a high school movie. If X-Men does the same, they can fill in the superpowered school away from home void left by Harry Potter ending.
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 8/9/2016, 1:45 PM
@Yaf - Well it sounds like we disagree on a lot of things. But you're 100% right that an X-Men film done properly, where the team consists of young kids moving to the mansion so that they can learn to control their powers, could be amazing. Really get to grips with the "adopted family" aspect of the team.
BloodyBed
BloodyBed - 8/10/2016, 11:18 AM
@TheManWithoutFear - just to get another perspective on things, I think apocalypse is the worst xmen film by a long shit, wish I never saw it, walked out of the theater.

loved the movies as a kid, but the special effects and some of the plot points are just too laughable to take the movie seriously.

idk what the hell happened btw dofp and apocalypse, because dofp is [frick]ing great.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 8/9/2016, 5:18 PM
I completely understand what you mean, allow the characters to mature instead of recast or never age.

I believe it was Kevin Fiege himself that mentioned the Harry Potter influence.
UltimateTypeface
UltimateTypeface - 8/10/2016, 7:50 PM
This a thinly veiled attack article on MCU films.

How can you defend Spiderman 3? Was an abortion of a movie. To say Cap3: TFA pales in comparison is just trolling. Spiderman 1 & 2 we pretty good but a trilogy is 3 movies and Cap 1-3 is the better trilogy.

You also rate X-men:Apocalypse above most Marvel movies ...you need to pull your head out of your arse. This movie was a shambles and besides a couple of fanboy moments was one of the worst X-men movies.
Yaf
Yaf - 8/11/2016, 10:35 AM
@UltimateTypeface - I think you need to read the comments where I clarify some of the same statements you appear to have a problem with. However, Captain America: The First Avenger is one of the shittiest MCU movies I've seen. What the [frick] was Kevin Feige thinking handing it over to Joe Johnston? If you think that's a better movie than Spider-Man 3 or even a remotely good movie at all, please don't comment on my articles anymore.
NitPicker
NitPicker - 8/11/2016, 11:12 AM
@Yaf - "If you think that's a better movie than Spider-Man 3 or even a remotely good movie at all, please don't comment on my articles anymore."

Translation: "Either agree with me or STFU".

What a great attitude to have.
Yaf
Yaf - 8/11/2016, 5:31 PM
@NitPicker - That came across wrong, what I really meant was if you can't bother seeing if someone hasn't already commented your comment - you shouldn't comment. I also meant to call him a bitch, so there's that. Thanks complimenting my attitude bro.
UltimateTypeface
UltimateTypeface - 8/11/2016, 6:34 PM
@Yaf - If you keep posting half arsed comment pieces like this I am going to call you out for the flogger that you are.
Yaf
Yaf - 8/11/2016, 6:52 PM
@UltimateTypeface - Or you could actually read my article and the comments.
RobGrizzly
RobGrizzly - 8/17/2016, 7:08 PM
It sounds like the author wants X-men Evolution: The Movie.

I also enjoyed X-Men Apocalypse, but these compatisons are premature until we actually see Spiderman Homecoming. Nice write-up though
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