My problem with San-Diego Comic-Con

My problem with San-Diego Comic-Con

My big problem with San-Diego Comic-Con is the fact that people who are not in hall H can’t watch the great movies trailer and teasers that are shown there. So only the people who are in hall H can see the footage, while the millions who couldn’t be there, will not see it for a very long time.

Editorial Opinion
By dcmarvel86 - Jul 30, 2014 11:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Comic-Con
  
My big problem with San-Diego Comic-Con is the fact that people who are not in hall H can’t watch the great movies trailer and teasers that are shown there.
 
This is a problem that has pissed me for some years now. Every year, big studios come to SDCC, they show really cool stuff, but they don’t release it online. So only the people who are in hall H can see the footage, while the millions who couldn’t be there, will not see it for a very long time.
 
My question is: Why?   
In this day and age, everyone has a camera, and every year the trailers that are shown in hall H are leaked online in a terrible quality. I mean, by now everyone saw the Batman v Superman footage. And I believe that it’s just a matter of time until the Avengers 2 footage will leak. So why do we need to get our first look of these movies on a leaked video on YouTube? Why not just give us the footage and be done with it? We will get the footage eventually anyway.
 
Now I know that some people will say that these trailers are shown only for people who are in SDCC, and it’s a special thing. But Comic-Con isn’t special because of the trailers, it’s special because of the costplay and the fact that “nerds” can become something different for few days, and meet a bunch of other people, and share their love to comics.
 
If I’m a movie studio, I will do everything I can to promote my movie. After all, in Hollywood, it’s all about the money. There is a massive backlash of news after SDCC, but instead of people watching these cool trailers in HD, we need to watch the “Cam” version. Wouldn’t be there more talk and excitement about Batman v Superman, if we all could see the teaser?
 
So what do you think, do you think that studios should release the trailers they show in SDCC online?         
 
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Pasto
Pasto - 7/30/2014, 11:45 AM
Thats a pretty good question that I'd LOVE to have an answer to.
Pasto
Pasto - 7/30/2014, 11:46 AM
But until then we've got google glass and GoPro, so...
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 7/30/2014, 11:53 AM
I agree, they should definitely post the footage online, or at least parts of the footage and maybe give the people who attend SDCC a little more, it will still be special for them. Releasing the footage can only help the studios and get fans more interested
ruadh
ruadh - 7/30/2014, 11:56 AM
Hall H seems to be a big reason a lot of people attend comic con anymore. Why show things there, or any of the panels, that will be shown everywhere? That would really negate the need to even bother attending. Giving people who travel across the country and pay these fees bwfore wasting sometimes days in line something special that only they are privy to makes a lot of sense to me.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 7/30/2014, 12:02 PM
@ruadh

True, I just want to see the footage, ha
r3negade
r3negade - 7/30/2014, 12:20 PM
But if they DID show off all the footage, what use would there be for going there?
ruadh
ruadh - 7/30/2014, 12:22 PM
Well sure, we all do. I was at comic con for three days, but never felt it was worth waiting for hall H. That's just the cost.

I think there is a very interesting sense of entitlement with fans lately. And I don't think its necessarily an age thing, as my brother in law has trouble understanding why he can't simply have the things he wants with no effort, and he's almost my age. Basically, I want this thing and why shouldn't I have it? Some people bring up how they can't afford to attend, but they should be able to see the footage anyway, etc. Why? Is comic Con footage some kinda unalienable right? No, you pay for the ticket and you take the ride.
yossarian
yossarian - 7/30/2014, 12:43 PM
So, you're okay with the sexual assaults. You just want footage of shit you will see eventually released. Got it.
DCGuy
DCGuy - 7/30/2014, 12:56 PM
Great work here keep it up. but as to my guess THIS IS why they do it to get people talking about everything from the event, to BVS to Avengers & more it's to feed the machine to feed the buzz and we all do that in a way
McGee
McGee - 7/30/2014, 1:27 PM
Having went to Comic-Con for the past two years (but not this one), I can tell you this....if you went there Pro-Life....you will leave Pro-Choice if you walk the floor.





Stick to the panels and screenings. You can see sexy cosplayers on the internet and stare at them all day long.


McGee
McGee - 7/30/2014, 1:38 PM

And yeah, I remember initially being irritated in 2012 that the Walking Dead trailer we saw in Hall H on Friday was released to the public, but not the Man of Steel trailer on Saturday. Hahaha! I ONLY HAD A FRIDAY BADGE!
MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 7/30/2014, 1:56 PM
@McGee

That is a phenomenal ass.

@dcmarvel86

It bothers you that the footage from SDCC isn't released to the public...hmmm... If it was released, what is the point of paying hundreds of dollars to see it in person? To draw people to an event, you need to give them something to spend money on. If you could just wait until the Hall H panel ends, and see the footage at home online, why go to Comic-Con?
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 7/30/2014, 2:12 PM
This is so dumb. It's like asking: "Why can't I watch a movie without actually paying for a ticket? I mean, we're all going to see it at some point in the future when it's own TV, right??" It's pretty simple: pay for a ticket, go to Comic-Con, camp out outside of Hall H, and you'll see all the footage to your heart's content.

In fact, it's ridiculously frowned-upon for people to try to leak footage from there. Folks in the industry get seriously pissed when any footage leaks, and I can't blame them. It's privileged. There's a reason they release footage there that they don't release anywhere else.

Of course I looked at the leaked footage for Batman V Superman and all that, but I didn't EXPECT to have that handed to me or anything. We're lucky to have gotten whatever we got. This sense of entitlement is so mind-numbingly annoying.
BawbScharf
BawbScharf - 7/30/2014, 2:20 PM
You do not really come up with a good explanation on why SDCC is special. Because of the cosplay? Because that does not happen at any other con out there?Comic Con IS special because it is where very big movie and televison announcements are made these days. It is basically nerd Coachella. Now they don't stream the performances and sets of Coachella in full to others because people paid good money to see those performances FIRST.

If you REALLY want to see these trailers before anyone else does then you pay the money for the tickets, pay for the flight, pay for the hotel, wait in a ten hour line, wait through hours of panels you do not want to see and then you see the trailer you came to see. Those in Hall H have definitely EARNED the right to watch the trailer first and are entitled to sneak peaks after the commitment they had to seeing those trailers.

God, more things should be harder to see/get. We have a spoiled society who believe they are entitled to everything.
ruadh
ruadh - 7/30/2014, 2:29 PM
I'd even go as far to compare it to a criminal mentality. I have done nothing to earn this thing, but I want it. That you don't want me to have it really shouldn't stop me from having it.

I also agree about the assessment of what con is about. Yeah, comics, cosplay, but that was more true 20 years ago. Since then, Hollywood has made this the biggest genre event south of the 405. That is actually what kept con afloat and now that is a major component of the event. It's an all around nerd fair.
RextheKing
RextheKing - 7/30/2014, 4:08 PM
Hall H is a big part of comic con, but its not the primary reason people attend. Nerd interaction, Cosplay, meeting/seeing celebrities, displays of figures, props, statues etc. So to you guys thinking that if the footage shown at comic con was released online would cause no one to attend, you're wrong(I doubt it would change anything). So yeah I also have a problem with them not releasing the footage online and part of it is that over half of real comic fans simply cannot attend Comic Con. I work my ass off 5 days out the week and I hardly have the money to pay my bills let alone fly out to San Diego or New York to attend Comic Con. If I did have the money and time I would, so why should people in the same situation as me be treated as less of a fan? They may not be trying to treat us this way, but that how it feels. Its like they are saying that only real fans are the ones that attend comic con, so they exclusively gets to see footage from upcoming CBMs.

Even with Hall H footage being released online people would still go to Hall H. They still get to see the footage first, they get to be in the same room as celebrities, directors, producers, etc., they have the chance of getting to ask questions.
UltimateGuardian
UltimateGuardian - 7/30/2014, 4:51 PM
No, you are not smarter than Disney about how to market their films.

And no, not everyone watches a camera version of the leaked video. I for one, have not seen any comic con footage that has not be officially released. Why? Because I am willing to wait to see the officially released, HD version.

This article reeks of entitlement.
ruadh
ruadh - 7/30/2014, 6:17 PM
Rex, it actually would change some things. Would it break comic con? No. But it would definitely affect attendance. As I stated before, comic con was struggling a couple decades ago and the Hollywood infusion really blew it up. So yeah, watching exclusive content is a big incentive. Otherwise, the immense line for hall h wouldn't exist all day every day. People are willing to sacrifice at least 25%, usually more, of their time at the con to waiting in line for these exclusive peeps.

And maybe you aren't less of a fan, but they also aren't depriving you of the movie. It sucks to be struggling with money, totally, my family has rough times as well so I sympathize. Its those times where the last thing I lament though is being denied movie footage because I couldn't get into a nerd festival.

For the record, I stayed with family in San Diego and my entry was paid for by my employer. Otherwise I wouldn't have attended. And I'll just wait for YouTube to see the footage. Or not. If it never gets up, really not the worst thing.
BawbScharf
BawbScharf - 7/30/2014, 6:30 PM
@rextheking
Firstly, of course you feel that way, judging by your articles you don't think with your head or with any sort of awareness of things outside of yourself. It is always about how you see it and the way you want things.

The fact is this: It is great that you work your ass off five days a week. Good for you but what have you done for yourself to get yourself out of that position. Did you go to College, get a degree, or get your masters? Those are the guys who REALLY worked their asses off for upwards of ten years ...sometimes while working five days a week as well. Do you know why they do that? So they could get a well paying job, so they can afford whatever they need or want; so they can afford to do fun things like comic con, Disneyland or what not. They know that if you want something that you need to WORK for it and by work for it that means striving to be more than medium wage and finding the way to do so. So do those who took the proper route to have well paying jobs deserve better than you? Yes, yes they do ...because clearly they have worked their way to a job where they could afford such. If you cannot afford something you want ...then clearly you are not working as hard as you think you are or you made a terrible decision early on in life (such as knocking someone up or getting married before you had your own finances in check). Our country has ran on that Principle forever. Nothing has changed in that regard.

Also, it is proven that SDCC has had a MAJOR attendance spike since 2008 when Twilight came to Comic Con for the first time. It became a hub for entertainment announcements. Was it big when it was just Cosplay and comics and stuff? Sure. But not as huge as it is now that Hollywood has its eyes on it. It is what sets it apart from other cons in the world. If it didn't have the media appeal it would be no different from a Wizard World (which is tons of fun and recommended if you do not want to spend a lot of money for a con nor wait in incredibly huge lines for panels). People saying that the appeal is the stuff of any regular con have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. There is a reason that SDCC costs more and features panels that are hard to get into. That is due to the presence that Hollywood has there ...even attracting those who have no interest in Comics whatsoever. My parents KNOW what SDCC is and why it is important to the multiple studios and entertainment industry.

ruadh
ruadh - 7/30/2014, 6:42 PM
I mentioned this whole argument to my wife, comparing it to going to a concert and getting t-shirts exclusive to the tour. She said that fans who can't get to the concert should be able to get the shirt via a fanclub. With the footage thing, she suggested releasing it, or some, a month later. That way, con people get to see it first but everyone can see it eventually.

I don't really agree, but I get it. And I get where you guys are coming from. I just don't agree that it's some kinda thing you are owed.
Steelers4190
Steelers4190 - 7/30/2014, 7:29 PM
Have the same questions myself
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/31/2014, 7:08 AM
Your problem isn't with SAN DIEGO Comic Con, then. You have a problem with NEW YORK Comic Con as well, as they do the same thing.
superbatspiderman
superbatspiderman - 7/31/2014, 12:09 PM
The only problem I have with Comic COn is that they aren't releasing the Avengers and Batman vs Superman footage.
RextheKing
RextheKing - 7/31/2014, 5:36 PM
@ruadh I see your point, but I still don't like the feeling of being left out, nor do most fans. Just because we can't physically attend Comic Con, we still experience it, and the fact that we can't experience first hand is already shitty enough. I do agree we aren't entitled to anything they show at CC, and I don't feel entitled, I just feel left out.

@objectively I shouldn't even give you any time out of my day, so I'll make this short. First off, I stopped about halfway through around when you asked what I've done to better my situation. Well to let you know I'm only 19, so I've been working full time for just a little over a year, and I've been doing so to save up for art school. I still live with my parent, for a number of reasons: While my dad makes a six figure a year salary, in a family of five, it doesn't stretch that far, I've helped my parents out with car, medical, and utilities bills, in December of last year our house caught fire, and while our insurance company is handling the fire and water damage, the fire exposed termite damage that has to come out of our families pocket, which I've been helping out with as well, and our insurance company figured out I'm driving and paying for the insurance on one of the cars, so the price have went up. So yeah, I'm broke and I'm trying to better myself, but in order to better myself, my family and myself have to get back on our feet, so I can finally start back saving my money.
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