Wolverine Co-Creator Roy Thomas Says "My Name Should Have Come First" On DEADPOOL AND WOLVERINE Credit

Wolverine Co-Creator Roy Thomas Says "My Name Should Have Come First" On DEADPOOL AND WOLVERINE Credit

Former Marvel Comics editor-in-chief Roy Thomas has released a statement thanking Marvel Studios for giving him a co-creator credit on Deadpool and Wolverine...

By MarkCassidy - Aug 01, 2024 06:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Deadpool & Wolverine

Roy Thomas took over from Stan Lee as Marvel Comics editor-in-chief in 1972, and has been credited as the co-creator of several characters, including Vision, Carol Danvers, Luke Cage and Iron Fist.

However, there is one particular hero he's been lobbying for recognition in having a hand in creating along with Len Wein, John Romita Sr. and Herb Trimpe for many years: Wolverine.

Thomas was finally given his credit in Deadpool and Wolverine, but the news has not sat well with everyone, including the late Len Wein's widow Christine Valada.

“I’m not privy to what the financial arrangements might be [with Thomas] and I don’t particularly care,” Valada said in an interview with Forbes earlier this year. “This is not about finances. This is about stolen valor. This frankly calls my husband a liar for his entire career.”

In any case, the credit stands, and Thomas has now shared his thoughts on the movie and being recognised as a co-creator of Logan in a lengthy statement to THR.

You can check out an excerpt below.

"I’m particularly grateful to Marvel Entertainment for seeing the virtue of my position of some months ago that, building on the less formalized credits in 2017’s Logan, Len Wein, John Romita, and I all deserved official 'co-creator' status on Deadpool & Wolverine, just as the two co-creators of Deadpool have enjoyed. [Editor’s note: On Logan, Thomas was part of a list of thank yous.] Oh, sure, I strongly feel my name should have come first, not last, in the Wolverine grouping, since the Wolverine character was my concept on which Len and the others built … but hey, being listed last never hurt Oliver Hardy, Lou Costello, Jerry Lewis, or Paul McCartney, right? (Or Jack Kirby as in 'Simon and' and 'Lee and,' come to that.)"

There's a chance Thomas wasn't being entirely serious here, but his comments have still come in for some backlash online.

Have you been to see Deadpool and Wolverine yet? If so, what did you think? Check out our review here, and drop us a comment down below.

The MPAA recently gave the movie an official R-rating for: "Strong bloody violence and language throughout, gore, and sexual references."

“Marvel Studios presents their most significant mistake to date - Deadpool & Wolverine," reads the new synopsis. "A listless Wade Wilson toils away in civilian life. His days as the morally flexible mercenary, Deadpool, behind him. When his homeworld faces an existential threat, Wade must reluctantly suit-up again with an even more reluctantlier... reluctanter? Reluctantest? He must convince a reluctant Wolverine to - F*ck. Synopses are so f*cking stupid.”

In addition to Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman in the title roles, Deadpool and Wolverine will see Morena Baccarin (Vanessa), Leslie Uggams (Blind Al), Rob Delaney (Peter), Brianna Hildebrand (Negasonic Teenage Warhead) And Shioli Kutsuna (Yukio) return as their respective characters, and they'll be joined by franchise newcomers Emma Corrin (The Crown) and Matthew Macfadyen (Succession), who will play a TV agent and Charles Xavier's evil counterpart, Cassandra Nova.

Shawn Levy directs Deadpool and Wolverine from a script by Ryan Reynolds, Rhett Reese, Paul Wernick, and Zeb Wells.

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IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 8/1/2024, 7:12 AM
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JobinJ
JobinJ - 8/1/2024, 7:16 AM
No one cares
braunermegda
braunermegda - 8/1/2024, 7:43 AM
Oh the ego
ProudPatriot76
ProudPatriot76 - 8/1/2024, 8:07 AM
Those who are first will be last, and those last will be first
WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 8/1/2024, 8:12 AM
No one cares but I'll leave a comment.

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alleverybody
alleverybody - 8/1/2024, 9:01 AM
If the story is true, Roy Thomas and John Ronit’s Sr created Wolverine whole cloth. Len Wein and Herve Trimpe only used the created character first.
Deckacards
Deckacards - 8/1/2024, 11:04 AM
@alleverybody - What about the fan who initially submitted the Wolverine idea via a contest months before?
dragon316
dragon316 - 8/1/2024, 9:22 AM
He should be thankful and lucky he got his name in credits at all how many times did see Stan lee in credits jack Kirby only got his name dropped once in all movies that where made that’s disrespectful right there
soberchimera
soberchimera - 8/1/2024, 10:36 AM
If he had a hand in his creation, he 100% deserves credit, how much time has past since the character’s debut is irrelevant, I think Bill Finger supporters can attest to that.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 8/1/2024, 11:58 AM
@soberchimera - The Marvel method tended to mean it was oft the Editorin-chief would come up with the idea first even if only a few lines of notes, then hand it to a writer to do a basic outline, then go to the artist to expand the plot and draw all the panels then back to the writer to add the dialogue. The Editorin-chief tending to have input after every stage to varying degrees suggesting changes or signing off on as is.

As such more likely than not he had some role in his creation, the cases where a writer or artist came up with the idea first exist (Silver Surfer being added unprompted by an artist comes to mind) but even then the Editor-in-chief would always have a role in it at least even if maybe not always enough to get a credit.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 8/1/2024, 10:41 AM

I care SOOOO hard!!!!!

Nah. ZZZZzzzzz....
SpiderCop9997
SpiderCop9997 - 8/1/2024, 10:57 AM
What about that fan who first suggested (created) him?
Deckacards
Deckacards - 8/1/2024, 11:22 AM
Andy Olsen should be given credit as co-creator (and first name listed) of Wolverine, and until that is done and acknowledged by Marvel and Roy et al, Roy Thomas and Len and others are full of sh*t with their claims of integrity, honesty, and creator credit, etc.

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