ETERNALS Director Chloé Zhao Explains Starfox's Role In The MCU And Sheds Light On Dynamic With Thanos

ETERNALS Director Chloé Zhao Explains Starfox's Role In The MCU And Sheds Light On Dynamic With Thanos

Eternals director Chloé Zhao has addressed the introduction of Harry Styles' Eros/Starfox in the Marvel Studios movie, revealing her take on the character's history with his brother, the Mad Titan, Thanos.

By JoshWilding - Dec 29, 2021 05:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Eternals
Source: Empire Online

Eternals added a lot of new characters to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, though it wasn't until the movie's mid-credits scene that we met Harry Styles' Eros/Starfox. The comic book hero teleported himself aboard the Domo and revealed that he could help Thena, Druig, and Makkari find their friends after they were taken from Earth by the Celestial Arishem. 

Empire Online recently caught up with Eternals director Chloé Zhao and learned more about Starfox's history, including how this take on the character is tied to his brother, Thanos. 

"I love the idea of Eros being another Eternal, another Ajak. He's an Eternal, and he was stationed on Titan – 10 of them were, just like the 10 Eternals on Earth, assuming Titan is also a host planet at some point. Now, if you think about that, what influence could Eros have had on the inhabitants of Titan, the way Ajak has influenced people on Earth? And how that has affected Thanos?"

"If you go to the comics, there's some quite beautiful, heartbreaking influence Eros has had on Thanos. And how much does Thanos know? I love him as a character. It makes my imagination go crazy thinking, 'Why does Thanos think this way? Why is he worried about overpopulation and destroying his planet?' Think about the emergence – does Eros know about it? Maybe if he's an advisor, the way Ajak advised kings and queens on Earth?"

"For me, the backstory of Eros is that he deserted, he said, 'I'm not doing this anymore,'" the filmmaker continues. "So he somehow got that sphere, which you saw in his hand, and he ran off and made Pip the troll. They're like Han Solo and Chewie. Arishem's been looking for him, and he's just been a space outlaw. That's the character I had in my mind."

It doesn't sound like Zhao necessarily pictures this Starfox as the biological brother of Thanos, though there's no telling how much her ideas could change by the time we next see these characters. The big reveal that the MCU's Eternals are essentially synthetic beings is almost certainly going to alter how the Mad Titan connects to Eros and (their father) A'Lars, though we do wonder whether he perhaps attempted to create an Eternal child and wound up with the deformed Thanos.

Equally as likely is that an attempted Emergence could be what led to Titan's destruction, so fingers crossed all of these ideas are expanded on when the Eternals sequel eventually rolls around. 
 

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AC1
AC1 - 12/29/2021, 7:27 AM
This actually seems like a pretty fascinating take - so Eros would presumably be a surrogate brother to Thanos, and perhaps his rebellion against his own mission as an Eternal (which would've resulted in Titan being destroyed by an Emergence) is what motivated Thanos to fight against the destruction of Titan when overpopulation and resource scarcity became such a threat to the planet.

So in a way, Eros' desire to save the people of Titan gives Thanos the twisted motivation to kill half of all life in order to spare the other half.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 12/29/2021, 7:31 AM
@AC1 - that is indeed a cool take. Still not a fan of Thanos' limited Malthusian views, but that would really give it some depth
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 12/29/2021, 7:34 AM
Damn he looks like Jeffrey Dahmer in that pic
Origame
Origame - 12/29/2021, 8:11 AM
Ok, so they're heavily implying that Thanos has the same connection to the eternals he did in the comics (being a half eternal half deviant). And the snap was even stated to have slowed down the celestial plans with earth. And on top of that the eternals have been shown willing to just follow the will of the celestials for hundreds and thousands of years without question. So what reason is there left to not have them stop thanos?
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 12/29/2021, 9:09 AM
@Origame - Thanos isn’t half deviant, he’s an eternal with a deviant gene, almost like a mutant.
Origame
Origame - 12/29/2021, 9:12 AM
@OmegaBlack13 - ...how's that not half deviant?
YonnyLayna
YonnyLayna - 12/29/2021, 10:43 AM
@Origame - Her mom didn't get screwed by a beast.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 12/29/2021, 10:58 AM
@Origame - because both of his parents are eternals wich makes him full eternal, he just got the deviant gene somehow, like a virus.
Origame
Origame - 12/29/2021, 11:53 AM
@YonnyLayna - so what? He has the genes.
Origame
Origame - 12/29/2021, 11:55 AM
@RegularPoochie - not like a virus. The fact he has the genes implies his parents had those genes as well, just dormant. Similar to red hair. If anything, calling him half deviant was giving too much credit to his eternals half.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 12/29/2021, 2:13 PM
@Origame - ffs🤦‍♂️
Origame
Origame - 12/29/2021, 3:26 PM
@RegularPoochie - what? What's wrong with anything I said? That's how f@#$ing genetics work. You don't just get born with genes that neither of your parents have. And that's even a plot point in the eternals comics, since it shows eternals and deviants are basically the same thing, just one looks human and the other doesn't.

How's about just admitting you're wrong.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 12/30/2021, 12:00 AM
@Origame - Or maybe you admit you are wrong, Thanos is eternal and that's it.
Origame
Origame - 12/30/2021, 7:55 AM
@RegularPoochie - an eternal...with deviant genes. So half deviant.
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 1/3/2022, 3:42 AM
@Origame - Except we know for a fact they didn't have the genes. We have the ability to look at Thano's entire genealogy because it's only like 4 generations. He comes from a line of Eternals on both parents' sides. He canonically has a random Deviant mutation.
Origame
Origame - 1/3/2022, 4:23 AM
@OmegaBlack13 - you're completely missing the point of him having the deviant gene. It's not saying he had a mutation that just conveniently made him a deviant (if it was a mutation like your claim then it's the luckiest thing possible that the gene ended up exactly like that of the deviants). It's to show the experiments of eternals and deviants is the same thing, and a relatively sloppy process since you still get eternals with deviant genes.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 12/29/2021, 8:16 AM
It actually gives Thanos’ motives more depth. If he knew of the Emergence that would certainly impact his Malthusian views.

It seems like they may not be blood brothers. Thanos wasn’t one of those original 10 Eternals…or maybe he was. Or Eros “parents/parental figures” were one of the original 10 and birthed Thanos while on Titan.
PerrinNation1
PerrinNation1 - 12/29/2021, 8:35 AM
I thought making the Eternals essentially cosmic powered constructs took away from the kind of vulnerability needed to empathize with a character. Its one thing to know a character can potentially live forever. Its another to know that in the back of your mind that character will might.can come back. The ONLY way it works (IMO) is if you have spent enough time and emotional energy on the character so that it matters to you what happened to them…..whether they are immortal robot or not

I suspect we were supposed to feel a sense of tragic loss when Ajak was revealed to be dead. But there wasn’t enough time spent with her to cultivate those feelings. And the time we did spend with her wasn’t exactly gripping.

I like the movie but I admit I’ve been rewriting it in my head constantly in order to make it better for me.
DR3D
DR3D - 12/29/2021, 8:47 AM
“Made Pip the troll”? What?
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 12/29/2021, 9:36 AM
@DR3D - I had the same reaction. And this was creator Jim Starlin's reaction:

Corruptor
Corruptor - 12/29/2021, 2:44 PM
@DR3D - Made him gay?
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 12/29/2021, 9:13 AM
Kinda like the MCU Thor and Hawkeye, this is one of those times I wish a movie had come out a few years later or they consulted comic writers because the Eternals book Marvel launched to promote this movie is a much better take imo. As much as I liked the movie I wasn’t into the cosmic robot thing it established. The Kieron Gillen explanation for Eternals/Deviants and Thanos’ connection to them has been great.
YonnyLayna
YonnyLayna - 12/29/2021, 10:46 AM
@OmegaBlack13 - Wasnt JMS Strazinsky involved on the first Thor? 🤔
oldnoname
oldnoname - 12/29/2021, 6:38 PM
@OmegaBlack13 - I’m LOVING Gillen’s run
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 1/3/2022, 3:43 AM
@oldnoname - Probably my favorite thing Marvel has been putting out rn. Can't wait for Gillen's X-book.
cerrone6
cerrone6 - 12/29/2021, 12:01 PM
The newest Eternals comic Thanos rising is good.
Comic goes in depth of how Thanos was created and why he looks that way.
But I'm still left wondering about Eros.
CaptainMexico
CaptainMexico - 12/29/2021, 12:24 PM
Ya no more Chloe Zhao movies at Marvel please. Eternals was a huge bummer of a flick.
Corruptor
Corruptor - 12/29/2021, 2:50 PM
Stop this nonsense right now and use your amazing creative vision that the studios put so much trust in, and that has changed almost every other aspect of our favourite characters, to take just one small step further and change the NAMES of all these characters too. Then none of us would have a problem with any of it.

So Thanos becomes Archibald Meatpants, changes his colour from purple to green. Job's a good 'un. Nobody thinks, oh he might be like Jim Starlin's Thanos. Nobody disappointed.

Corruptor
Corruptor - 12/29/2021, 7:43 PM
Thanks so much for "shedding light" (translation: dumping from a great height) for us who have been reading about Thanos, Eros and Pip the Troll since the 1970s.
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