A Clockwork Riddler?

A Clockwork Riddler?

More wild speculation on the direction of The Riddler for Batman 3

Editorial Opinion
By 48and2 - Aug 31, 2010 12:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

So like I was sittin' there in me room one night thinkin' to myself: with the behemoth critical and financial success of Inception, and how big Christopher Nolan's yarbles have undoubtedly swolen to at this point. Success after success after success. While the fanbase, the press, and at this point the general public is more or less expecting an appearance from the Riddler. And Nolan reportedly urging DC/Warner Bros. towards Leonardo Dicaprio, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, or Tom Hardy, what can we really expect?

I expect this idea must have been discussed before, but just incase it hasn't I thought I'd throw it out there. Considering Heath Ledger's masterful interpretation of The Joker was based largely in part on punk innovator Sid Vicious. It seems likely that whatever actors are chosen to play the rogues in the sequel to TDK are going to at the very least 1. respectfully compete with Ledger's performance, and 2. Draw some influence for their characters from other pop culture icons.



If The Riddler pops up (which seems to become more and more likely everyday), one of the most similar and picture perfect characters ever to have graced the silver screen, is Stanley Kubrick's "Alex" played by Malcolm MCdowell in A Clockwork Orange. Similar to how Johnny Depp drew from Keith Richards for Cap'n Jack Sparrow, it seems just too perfect to pass up.

After many months of taking things under consideration and paying close attention to public opinion, it seems a given most of us are expecting a darker, sadistic, more violent, more serious, and less cartoonish Riddler than has been depicted before.



I'm not going to spend alot of time analyzing the reasons why this makes alot of sense, but it's not only the superficial appearance of the two (Alex's bowler hat was a last minute addition to "stick it to the establishment" at the time, it turns out ironically enough). They're both [The Riddler and Alex geniuses, into vanity, compulsive towards what they do, and appreciators of "the finer things in life".

Anyhow, I would again suggest to whoever gets the part: Dig deep into Kubrick's "Alex", add your own twist, and you may come up with something that rivals Ledger's Joker.




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LEEE777
LEEE777 - 8/31/2010, 1:11 PM
That CONAN up there?! ; P
Checkmate
Checkmate - 8/31/2010, 1:12 PM
Wasn't Alex used as inspiration for Heath in TDK?
Twenty23Three
Twenty23Three - 8/31/2010, 1:16 PM
I Am getting bored of all this Riddler speculation. I really hope we don't get the Riddler in the next film. There are far more interesting unused villains who will slot right into the mob ideas from the last two films.
MassExecutions
MassExecutions - 8/31/2010, 2:01 PM
I'm telling you guys, here's what they need to do:

Have the Riddler have his face covered or obscured when he appears in costume. Cast three or four great actors (Depp, DiCaprio, etc.) as people suspected of being the Riddler. Don't reveal who the real Riddler is until the final act.

That being said, Bane is my preferred villain. Javier Bardem for Bane!
Denn1s
Denn1s - 8/31/2010, 2:32 PM
holy [frick] that is a great idea, man! letting us guessing who it is. although the voice could betray him
MassExecutions
MassExecutions - 8/31/2010, 2:43 PM
Have the voice obviously be computer modified. Would it be to much if they used Frank Gorshin (60's TV Riddler) for the voice? I mean, he's dead, but the could use the recorded dialogue and a computer, I bet.
AshleyWilliams
AshleyWilliams - 8/31/2010, 3:54 PM
Thumbs up!

Team CoCo.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 9/1/2010, 10:20 AM
@ soonerdrake

welcome to the family, and amen to that! everyday we have someone posting some kind of article about Batman 3, and its always the same old, same old. i'm not even that excited about it, but i want the news to to be reported just to get all these people to stop posting "their takes" on what they want in Bats 3. Nothing is original anymore, its all been said...

we get it, people want Riddler (for god only knows what reason), and they want him to be a psycho serial killer.
DGNR8
DGNR8 - 9/1/2010, 5:30 PM
Element's of the Joker's charicature had essence of "Alex". Nolan won't allow that to happen
*off topic* whereas i'm 100% sure the Riddler will be in Bat's 3 (and i could'nt agree more with Guy Pearce)i'm sorta hoping Nolan throws us all a curve ball and have it "?" free
48and2
48and2 - 9/5/2010, 12:17 PM
Well guys, it's not like it's an almost concrete inevitability that the Riddler's gonna make an appearance...

I tend to agree with the regulars... but bah Soonerdrake, and even you Corndog-

This was not an article about "wanting the Riddler", it's about "when he's here, what should be done with him." In revisiting Clockwork - "Alex" seemed to me to be a Nolan Riddler incarnate.

As I tend to agree with Anil, he nailed it, and Guy Pearce is a distinct possibility being one of Nolan's actors.

And to those complaining about "speculation on this site"; that's %90 of the content of this site lol...


@DGNR8 Heath's Joker was primarily based on Sid Vicious (I wasn't aware of the Alex connection), and Nolan started his career on a remake (Insomnia)... but I wouldn't be too sure about what he's got planned.

People who read my shit, at this point 'oughtta know I don't really go with the crowd, but like it or not we're gonna get the Riddler - two reasons which should not be discarded is there is potential for coolness there, but in the TV show and the movie, he's been a completely cheesed out.

If you walk up to the average joe on the streets and go "can you name three Batman bad guys?", one of 'em's gonna be The Riddler - like it or not, get ready for Nolan's version. And until that time, if you read this site, get ready for every other word written to be speculation about it lol.
48and2
48and2 - 9/5/2010, 12:24 PM
@MassExecutions that is a decent idea... people underestimate the almost limitless potential for awesomeness this character has, I think

@Lee Damn I didn't think anyone'd get it first guess =P
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