EDITORIAL - X-men: First Class will be fine.

EDITORIAL - X-men: First Class will be fine.

I think everyone is seriously prejudging this. Here is why.

Editorial Opinion
By GuardianOfEros - Sep 12, 2010 04:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

Okay, so I'm fully prepared to take any kind of heat from all of the angry users that absolutely think this is going to be trash. But this is my opinion - I just want to put it out there to help cool the fire.

On a funny note, I feel like this site and its fans are related to politics. We have conservative fans (Fans who will hate the film unless its exactly what they think it should be.) and Liberal Fans (who are optimistic, want what they want, but won't bitch about things to the extreme.) This isn't an exact thing - just a loose observation. Now, where do I fall on this? I'm Liberal.

Okay, so I don't think this film is going to be a bust. I really don't. The main reason why I'm taking this with stride and not getting angry about it is because its an interpretation - a vision of the comics. Not an actual comic on the big screen. If you want that kind of story...go buy the comic. If you want it on the big screen then you have to submit to what the studios, writers, and executives are putting out. Whether you agree with it or not, it's there. It's just your choice to demonize it rather than just being entertained.

Example: Titanic - based off of actual events, but a story added into it for entertainment.

Relevant example: X-men 1 - Took a story and took select characters that they wanted and made that plot work with it. In my opinion they did stay true to the characters. Whether or not the continuity was right is kind of irrelevant. If they started X-men with the original five, I personally probably wouldn't see it because Storm wasn't there. And she's one of my favorite x-men. So the studio took popularity into account.

Second of all: The continuity isn't cannon. We all know that. But should it always have to be? This is an interpretation. They wanted to make it modern back when Xmen 1 was made. They didn't want to make a period peace. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Third of all - to qualify the above statement - I don't like FOX. I really don't. I think they make stupid decisions sometimes. But its in their hands. And hating it, bitching about it, complaining about it hasn't changed anything. So I think it should be evident that hating X-men First Class isn't going to make it go away or make the franchise go to another studio. They have X-men by the balls for now. So you have two options, deal with it or not - I wouldn't put so much energy into hating something you haven't seen yet.

I do admit it doesn't sound too promising, but go into it with the highest of hopes and the lowest of expectations.

Fourth of all:
I think the continuity still fits. Why? Because. Did it say that it was a prequel to Wolverine? Unless I'm mistaken - which I'll happily admit - I don't think it was stated. So seeing an Emma/Kayla's Sister in Wolverine doesn't mean they messed up their own continuity. Though it was sort of played out and released that it was Emma Frost, I think that can be overlooked seeing as how her name wasn't mentioned in the actual movie.

I think that can be overlooked. I'm over it. I'm sure some people aren't, though. I just think its not a legitimate reason to dislike the franchise (assuming that it is a reason to begin with.)

And if First Class takes place before Wolverine, that doesn't make it out of continuity. Because Cyclops being capture in 'Wolverine' and saved by Prof. X could have been years after X-men First Class takes place.


Fifth of all:

Bryan Singer made X-1 and X-2. I didn't mind them. I know a lot of people that loved those movies. And until I got onto this site, I realized there are people who hate them. I don't see why. "He didn't stick to the source material." Its his interpretation, you're going to have to deal with that. If not, then don't see the movie. "He messed up Cyclops." No he didn't. He didn't give him enough screen time, I'll admit. He just focused on one part of him rather than as a whole. That doesn't mean he messed him up - he just took what he thought was needed for it. "He said he didn't read a comic book." And? I never played any of the Resident Evil games and I could probably make a better movie than the producers who are all fans of that franchise.

I mean come on. He's not bad at what he does. He's not - his talent isn't in question. His films outside of the superhero franchises are good. And the only one I didn't like was Superman (I'm not a big DC Fan. Sorry.). My opinion though - i know.

And Matthew Vaughn is a good director. He chooses his movies very carefully. And I'm sure he didn't like Wolverine either. And I'm sure he was familiar with the movie franchise having been asked to direct X-men 3. So he had to know where it was going at this point. And for him to take the job meant that he thought he could do it right. He might. He might not. This is all yet to be seen.

Finally:
Original line-up missing.
Ugh. Get over it. I don't want to sound blunt or like an ass, but it's not going to happen. Not while its under fox. If you hate it, I'll restate my above suggestion: don't watch the franchise - just read your comic books and be happy. Because the only way you're going to see it on screen right now is under FOX and their interpretation/vision for X-men. Not saying I like it or agree with it, but it is what it is. I'm going to still see the movie because I love X-men. I love the characters. And I enjoy seeing what they do with them.

To all the people who hate this movie franchise right now, I'm sorry for you. And I really hope that something good comes out of this soon, because I do agree it should be in more capable hands and things need to be cleaned up a bit.

But this is what it is right now. And I don't think its going to be bad. But no one can say until we see it in June.

Okay, right now - I'm going to bed. Its late. And when I wake up I'm sure I'll have one person agree and 50042014 people hating me. I apologize. So post what you will. But also note that I won't reply. I'll read, but I'm lazy. And I over exerted myself here.

Until Tomorrow, CBM!

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LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/12/2010, 4:14 AM
Yeah right lol!

No you don't sound an a$$, yeah all the die hard X-MEN fans that want an actually X-MEN FIRST CLASS with an actual FIRST CLASS should be happy with a lame watered down Hollywood [frick]ed in the a$$ version!?

Some people care and are sick of the sh1t FOX brings out, its people like you keeping this crappy franchise alive and we'll never see it back at Marvel Studios...

I for one am not putting a cent into this franchise ever again.

Why should we be happy just to go back and read the comic books, we want to see our X-MEN on the big screen!

An done good!

Sorry [frick] Fox and [frick] all those that sail in her, no to FIST ASS we want FIRST CLASS!

Nah GUARDIAN @ Good article dude, well thought out but I still wont be going to watch it.
jbak368
jbak368 - 9/12/2010, 5:43 AM
So, LEE, even if when it comes out it gets totally stellar reviews, you still won't pay to see it?
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/12/2010, 5:47 AM
Cyke89 @ Why don't you just [frick] off already!

If my opinion is I ain't liking Fox and the way they make X-MEN movies, thats my opinion, so stop attacking me everywhere troll boy... yes thats what trolls do!

Thank you.


jbak368 @ No and it wont, anyway means nothing, Wolverine got good reviews and look at that!
jbak368
jbak368 - 9/12/2010, 5:50 AM
Um, I remember Wolverine getting shit reviews. Same with X3. Dont' know where you read your reviews. I didn't even see Wolverine because of how bad the reviews were, plus how bad X3 was. This looks like a return to form for the franchise if you ask me (not that anyone did).
blah
blah - 9/12/2010, 5:51 AM
to tell the trueth i just want to see a great story that keeps the continuity and has little to no holes in the film where it leave people asking well why does this happen but this happened in the other film. and also i want to see BEAK he is a must since angel salvador is in the film, and they had my hopes up since origins wolverine. it would also be great to see chamber, husk,anole,glob herman,rockslide,mammomax,omega red,sinister,and apocalypse,and a sentinel story line. if they use these interesting characters in the films and make great stories i would love to see many sequels, and of cource ax-men 4 and 5 back to back with colossus,iceman,storm,gambit,rogue,nightcrawler,beast,angel,kitty pryde,wolverine,more cyclops,pro-x magneto,mystique,sabretoothe, and some news characters like cable,and bishop. but the two things that are a must is that it has to be a great story, and keep continuity. i aslo think that you can change some things about characters but do not do a drastic change or it will p!$$ everyone off like deadpool, and blob.when you make a sci fi film or horror film it works out great if you take alittle time to think about the story and the little things, the details in it, if they do this then it should come out better then just saying well we can do this, and this and have this person jumping off of this and doing that and just cramming the action in it. they need to stop and focus on the story and characters and when a scene comes up that can has a cool action scene add it in. like i say simpler is better in films like these look at x-men 2, and x-men 1 they were not non stop action and most people loved them then you have x-men 3 and wolverine and they are non stop action in almost every scene someone is trying to use there powers and fight someone and it just does not make for a great story. sorry for the rant guys and gals.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/12/2010, 6:21 AM
jbak368 @ I wish I read the reviews you did b4 I saw it lol! ; D

I think seriously Fox should change the title to X-MEN ORIGINS or something though at least ... coz it ain't First Class.
InSpace
InSpace - 9/12/2010, 7:48 AM
Well Dude for me This Movie is gonna suck for us continuity and fanboy wise,since it takes place int the 60's and Cyclops and Jean Grey aren't even in it and Cyclops lil bro is older.

But since Matthew Vaughn is directing it might actually be an alright movie.

But this isn't my problem .

My problem is that If this Movie does good at the box office,Which we all know even if it gets bad reviews the general public is gonna see this cause its an Xmen film and it has superheros, Fox is going to go through with an FF reboot.


Which means we Will never get the X-men and Fantastic Four into the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

You see :

If by a miracle first class bombs at the box office then
Fox wont go through with another team superhero film,FF, and will have to rely on solo flicks such as Daredevil or Deadpool. It will take a LONG time for a DD reboot to be made since everyone has that Ben Affleck flick still in our mind. So Fox would take a while to try to make something different.

Now onto Deadpool. Since the General Public doesn't know him it has a high possibility to bomb.

I don't think Fox has any other characters so Fox will most likely give up the rights to the characters or make a reboot for the X-Men franchise (which I wont mind if they did it right)
dlineman517
dlineman517 - 9/12/2010, 9:02 AM
great points in this article.

I'm actually looking forward to this movie. I could see them make it a trilogy leading up to x-men 1 like they did with the star wars prequels
joekerr93
joekerr93 - 9/12/2010, 9:08 AM
I totally agree with you GuardiansofEros. I will wait until i start seeing some footage or reviews, and i will see it.

Because the only thing i see wrong with this movie is the timeline. the 60's is too far back.

But even so, i like Matthew Vaughn, i like the idea of a period X-Men film, and the actors involved in this intrigue me.

Just exercise your Suspension of Disbelief when in regards to the timeline, and all will be good.
flames809
flames809 - 9/12/2010, 10:26 AM
jocker- actually the time-line does make sense cause Xavier meets jean in 1968 in x3 and shes like 8 or 7 something like that

but the movie will be good and good review
ager
ager - 9/12/2010, 10:44 AM
so i am scared it wont be good. or it will because of the acting but i dont think it stands a chance. peope wont let it. im watching it. i respect that they didnt reboot man we have a lot of those coming but i think they couldve people would be willing to see what (in 2000) wouldve been a less exciting team. good article
superbatspiderman
superbatspiderman - 9/12/2010, 10:51 AM
I am not very excited for this movie I think I will still see it though I think the best part will be the flashbacks of Xavier and Magneto. Good article man you make good points.
xsjh
xsjh - 9/12/2010, 4:01 PM
I'm just one that thinks continuity is VERY important. And all this stuff about the Emma in X-men Origins: Wolverine not being the actual Emma Frost, but some other mutant...I don't buy it.

Anyone who does should really look at this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVQxtUoH7ew

Pretty blatently says who she is. Can anybody explain it now?
xsjh
xsjh - 9/12/2010, 4:15 PM
I'm just one that thinks continuity is VERY important. And all this stuff about the Emma in X-men Origins: Wolverine not being the actual Emma Frost, but some other mutant...I don't buy it.

Anyone who does should really look at this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVQxtUoH7ew

Pretty blatently says who she is. Can anybody explain it now?
joekerr93
joekerr93 - 9/12/2010, 4:28 PM
flames809 - you may be right for some of them, but some of them seem a little unreal. all the characters in x men 1 that are also in first class would have to be in their 40s-50s (assuming they are little kids in first class). Mystique is not in her 40's! and then there is the issue of Emma Frost, as xsjh mentioned.

xsjh - well there goes that!
Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon - 9/12/2010, 10:55 PM
I don't know about you, but I always consider commercials to be of a lower canon grade than the film itself.
marvel72
marvel72 - 9/13/2010, 3:42 PM
@ leee777

say what you want,mate.

i do,no f*cker is gonna tell what to say & think.
DGNR8
DGNR8 - 9/14/2010, 3:12 PM
*stand's up and give's the man a round of appluause*
Kudos dude...you pretty much summed up how i feel aout it in a way more eloquant way than i ever could've.
It's a comic book "movie" ...basically it's hollywoods interpretation of a comic book...some good some bad
imagine it as a different dimension of a comic book...it helps me enjoy it a lil' more
MONTEZ
MONTEZ - 9/20/2010, 10:30 AM
lmfao, yes it's an interpretation, a bad one to boot. it's an abomination really. i understand you cannot do the same things in the movies as you can in comics and cartoons. people need to look at harry potter, a book turned movie, and done correctly. i never have read any books but my wife says they have kept it almost ecactly like the books. why can they do it, but others cannot not. i do not want a rogue who just whines all the time, i want a rogue is afraid of nobody yet still lady like. i want a wolverine who is feral and full of rage, not a cry baby who gets his a$$ kicked by everybody. i want the x-men not the fox-men. i am sorry but imo anybody who truly wants this film franchise to continue is not a true x-men fan. what fox has done is just wrong. and niave fans continue to allow them to ruin these great characters. putting faith in this new fox film is like hoping that your next pile of sh!t is not exactly as stinky as the last one. we need to send a message to fox that enough is enough, boycott the film. do not give them your moey, do not fall for the trap. yes the first two films were good, but the last two are just disgusting. and do not forget there are those people who fall in between being liberal and conservative fans. there are fans who just want a film that is true to the charcters and is not a film simply filled with fans favorite characters. i want havoc yes, but not at the expense of him being older then scott. part of what makes havoc havoc is the fact he has to deal with being the younger brother of a great leader, he must prove not just to others but to himself that he is just as great as scott. they do not have to completely follow the source material but at least stay tru to the characters essence. like my coach always said, if you are going to do something do it right or do not do it at all. BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! F**K FOX!
GuardianOfEros
GuardianOfEros - 9/30/2010, 8:58 PM
@ Doughboy

I kind of think you're wrong with one statement. "i am sorry but imo anybody who truly wants this film franchise to continue is not a true x-men fan." - that is kinda rude.

And false. I am a true x-men fan.
But I find the movies - as misleading as they may be - entertaining if nothing else. I mean, if a republican agree's with a democrat...that doesn't make them a democrat too. That just means they agree.

You can do both. But I'm not the kind of person who believes something should be a completely, certain way or not at all. No. Thats not how things work. Because if they did, then we would have this issue. And not to start an argument, but the Harry Potter movies aren't completely accurate. The sixth movie was horribly portrayed.

But it happens.

"there are fans who just want a film that is true to the characters and is not a film simply filled with fans favorite characters." <-- Your words. Uhm, if that's how you feel then I would just expect nothing but disappointment then. Because its not in the creators hands. And people aren't going to stop going to see it. I wish they were in better hands as well - but that's not the case. It's not wrong to want what you want, its just unlikely.


MONTEZ
MONTEZ - 11/12/2010, 11:50 PM
Sowe have come to the point where all we care about is the film being entertaining? that is sad. expect and demand more for your money and time. the x-me cartoon in the 90's did not follow the comic mythos exactly but they did stay true to who the characters are.
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