FAN-ticizing About The Dark Knight Rises

how do we know the little girl isn't playing Barbra Gordon insted?

I mean imo I would be alittle disappointed if barbara gordon was included at all. I guess it makes sense if his daughter is a smart little girl he can confide in. I can see that working. Who knows?

I actually think it IS nolan. His daughter was in the first one too. And why put such an ephesis on ra's flash backs? Just for a bane origin without talia?if there's a young ra's then there could be a young talia. Plus ra's mentioned in batman begins. "I had a wife once. She was taken from me". It would be pretty redundant if bane kidnapped gordons kids. That happened already in the dark knight. It ISN'T nolan to do the same thing twice.

its would be pretty damn epic if tate was revealed as talia near the conclusion and this whole time she was gaining bruce' trust to infultrate wayne enterprises to set it up for demise. She encourages him to focus on helping people like his parents did to keep BRUCE occupied. Blinding him with her kindness and generousity. I honestly don't think selina and bruce will ever meet. Only batman and catwoman. They're from totally different worlds in which the source material is based on imo.

It makes sense. Ras al guhl used a decoy to hide himself. If his daughter trained under him then she learned his tactics. Plus IF THEY ARE GOING INTO A LEAGUE OF SHADOWS CONNECTION THEN WHY NOT TAHLIA? The story is being "tied to the first". Yeah he didn't mention a daughter. Maybe he didn't mention her because they had a falling out? Thus she's not in begins. There's legit reasons for talia to appear. Not so much barbara.

Ra's and Bane shouldn't have a history together without talia being included. Ra's has a daughter. Not another father son connection like bale and neeson had.

If the league of shadows is gonna play a part, so is talia. Plus pence and king were spotted on a set together in india.

No nixon as black mask is just a theory

unless you can get the script and prove it im having my doubts Talia is useless and Nixon could just be the guy running for D.A. this Term.

Talia isn't usless if she is tate. Read everything I wrote about her character up top and in the comments. It would make sense if her and bane were trying to destroy batman and gotham. "Tying to the first movie" like nolan said

if it is true the double identities of characters i want Levitt to be a villain masquerading as a cop in Gordon's unit. he is way too good of an actor for a seemingly nothing role.

Not for nothing they could have blamed joker for dents murders lol not batman. But that wouldn't make for a good story. Maybe joker will expose dent while he's in prison? We need to find out what happened to the joker

I bet we'll find out about the Joker's origin in the TDKR. That's a major plot hole in TDK that I'm sure the new movie will fill.

He was probably an agent of the League shadows exposed to high levels of the lazarus pit which drove him insane; then they "unleashed" him on Gotham to destroy it. It's not far-fetched if you think about it. He came closer to destroying Gotham than Ra's ever did in Begins.

I think Bane will in fact be immune to pain, but I also think he'll be immune to the sideeffects of the Lazarus Pit. He can ingest large amounts of its chemicals without going insane. The mask probably allows Bane to breath in the Lazarus chemicals in aerosol form which gives him increased strengh, stamina, and a healing factor.

I have no theory about Catwoman. I have no idea how she could fit in the story. I'm sure she'll be a love interest of sorts, but I also think she'll be an anti-hero who kind of takes Bats' place after he is possibly severely injured by Bane ;)

@Macksimus - Ras already stated in BB that Crane created the fear toxin using the blue plant found in the mountains. You're calling Ras a liar, now? Lol. Crane was never supposed to be in TDK; Nolan put him in there because he likes Cillian Murphy, and because the fans wanted more Scarecrow.

I'm not sure on the Catwoman plot, but I do believe that the woman playing an employee at Wayne Ent. will, indeed, be Talia masquerading as a civilian. I say this because it would fit perfect with the theme of deception from BB.

I'm sure Bane will be the primary villain, but if you know Nolan, you know there's never just one villain. In BB, you had Earl(excuse me if i'm wrong about his name) the corrupt businessman, corrupt cops like Flass, Ras and the League, Scarecrow and Arkham.

In TDK, there was Crane, Joker, the entire mob, more corrupt cops and Two-Face. If written correctly, balancing multiple villains like that can be easily done. (no antagonist for Wayne Ent.)

So far, in TDKR, there's Bane. With speculation, you have Catwoman, veering between both sides. Then you have the possibility of Talia, more corrupt cops, more thugs/regular bad guys like the mob, maybe. Also keep in mind that, logically speaking, Wayne's company will have another antagonist trying to either take it over or destroy it.

That being said, it would also make sense of Talia(speculation) tried to make Wayne Ent. go bankrupt just as Ras did to Bruce's parents. So, for Bruce, he would have to rise and overcome both physical, financial and mental challenges. It would make for a beautiful twist, I'd say. Then again, this is just speculation, so who knows or gives much of a damn? LoL

I disagree with everything that you have said except for Catwoman.

Tate is Tate. Not Talia. Batman is the worlds greatest detective, even if he has not established this thus far in Nolans series. Batman will not have the same stunt pulled on him twice. He's smarter than that. And he would like freakin stupid if he had it pulled on him by the same family.

Nixon is Nixon. Not Black Mask (Even if I would like Black Mask in this). Nixon will be a corrupt polotican trying to take over the Mayors job and controling whats left of the mob.

I also think that Blake will be a friend more than an enemy to Bats. They may conflict for the start, but if he's working under Gordon he'll have to trust what Gordon says. I see Blake's character similar to Harvey Dent. Where he was on the fence from the start but understands that Batman is what the city needs and helps him with his cause same as Gordon and Dent did.

I'm on @TGDSupes side with the little girl. Itll be little B Gords and not Talia, If not some random kid Bats saves.

Talia is to obvious and Nolan clearly is not giving us the obvious character people want (ex. riddler, joker, robin... BLACK MASK/TALIA.)

This is not an Editorial. This is either a Fan-fic or something that belongs in Features. This is just a list of theories that you beleive to be true, and for some reason expect us to beleive too. You did nothing to try and prove or argue your point.

@Macksimus: How is The Joker's origin being revealed a plot hole? Do you even know what a plot hole is?

@golden: see if you can find afew more things to b.I.t.c.h. about. These are my theories that I would like to share. And if you've read the entire article AND my comments I've backed up all my theories with probably cause...

Ya know? I see you post comments on every article I read. You're one of those guys who can bitch about amillion things but never actually has an opinion for himself. You're not allowed to comment anyone anymore while you're finishing your period.

Ill post what I want where I want. I'm not an aspiring journalist like yourself.

Oh oh wait, I got another one:
Miranda Tate - take the first two and the last two = Mite = Bat-Mite!!!!

Yeah no doubt, Marion Cotillard will play the mysterious part of Bat-Mite, I say bring it on! :P

(by the way, you should be aware that as plenty of sarcasm went into these two comments, I do actually wonder if Nolan, that sly dog, is shrouding his characters in mystery?)

@Jeremiah

You anal a-holes lol. You're right; he does say Crane made the toxin, but it doesn't mean the "mad scientist" still couldn't have been his mentor.

Hopefully, Chris Nolan has a similar plot in mind.