More Effort From The Fan Casters Please

More Effort From The Fan Casters Please

Have you had enough with all these thoughtless reguritated fan casts?

By Scarface - Mar 15, 2010 12:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

I posted an editorial yesterday about this and perhaps I came off a little abrasive and Galsctus was compelled to delete it. If it came out abrasive it indeed was my intention to do so.

Galactus Insert: For the record, it wasn't me--one of the other editors. I'm the one who puts this kind of stuff on the front page so all can see and learn. I will comment more at the end of this editorial.

I accomplished what I wanted to. Galactus has read my post. I will not mention any names this time but we all know who puts the hard work and efforts into the fan casts, the fan fics and the sketches. We also know the individuals who put little to no effort and just post the same fan casts over and over again.

Now Galactus you can delete me again if you wish. My feelings will not be hurt. I'm just asking for a little more effort from these individuals, so the people who put efforts posts don't get pushed to second page obsurity. We don't need anymore tweeny spider man reboot fan casts we've seen em' all. No more single person fan casts, and if people still wish to do so, at least give us some reasoning why you think said persons is your choice. Galactus I also propose to you a "trusted user" Fan Fic section where you earn your way to be able to post your fanfics. Where your hard work can only be pushed down by another trusted user who applies the same effort as yourself.

Galactus Your site is in danger of losing some very artistic people who don't want to post anything here anymore cause it just gets pushed to the second page within hours. I read all the posts everyday as I'm sure you do I'm also sure you have noticed the decrease in posts by some really cool guys here. It is no coincidence Galactus.

Galactus's reponse: Thank you Scarface for your input. You have not been the only one voicing these views lately. For that reason, I have asked all our CBM editors to step up the quality of the fan fic section. We will now be asking that fan fic contributors start obeying the same rules that we ask article writers follow. Meaning... everyone will need to use proper spelling and grammar, and provide a decent amount of content. This will hopefully get rid of a lot of the crap, and improve the quality of contributions to the section.

PLEASE READ OUR STYLE GUIDE HERE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WILL BE ACCEPTED AND WHAT WILL BE DELETED.

AND, anyone redating old stuff so that it shows up top will find it deleted. My suggestion is to create a list of your old fan fic at the bottom of all new ones. That is acceptable.

By doing this I will expect that all you loyal fan fic aficionados alert people when they are doing it wrong, and help us spread the word so I don't get an influx of emails asking, "why was my awesome fan cast with a thousand grammatical errors and no pictures deleted?!!" We editors cannot catch everything around the clock, and many times things will get by us, or be posted online for hours before we can get to them, so your comments will help educate the offenders as to why their contributions might be deleted.

Lastly, and just FYI, the fan fic section came about all by itself. As everyone should know by now, CBM is first and foremost a news site. For that reason, we do not like to put fan fic on the main page unless it is REEAALLLY good--because it's NOT news and we don't want to confuse anyone. Usually, when there is a particularly good fan fic, fan cast, fan video, or whatever, we will categorize it as a feature. There are no plans to change CBM to accomodate the fan fic more than what we do now. Instead, we are building a whole NEW site devoted completely to fan fic. It will be a similar set-up to CBM, but all the top stories, features sections, graphics and so forth will be all fan fic. We will let you know when that is available. In the meantime, for those of you who want to thin the crowd here a bit, may I suggest doing it over at EarthsMightiest.com. It has its own fan fic section that needs help--and that site has no limitations to the type of content you can provide. As always, we appreciate everybody who contributes to our site. We feel we have a great little community going here, and we will always take your suggestions (and complaints) to heart.

Sincerely,
Mighty Galactus



Joslezio's Update: Hey guys, as some of you may already know, I've recently taken on being an editor for the fan fic section of CBM. I just wanted throw out there. That I'm here to help in any way I can. If anyone has any suggestions or complaints. Feel free to contact me. In case you don't know you can contact me through my fan page.
www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/josleziosinfantry

Any questions, concerns, complaints, suggestions, etc. are more than welcome. The editors of the page have read everyone's complaint and feel that this is the best option to help solve some of these problems. I will be more than happy to assist anyone with any direction they need. Whether its how to upload pictures or how to spell a word and everything in between. Just to let you know. The editors of CBM are very busy people, so anything you need, please come to me, or anyone else appointed in the near future, and if neither them nor I can help you. We will take the appropriate steps to get the problem resolved. I think that's everything I need to say. Hope to hear from some of you very soon.

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ManOfIron
ManOfIron - 3/14/2010, 8:16 AM
I agree. I don't post any articles or anything because i don't know how to :/ we need a "how to" thing on creating a fansite and/or creating an article.

I get tired of seeing the tween thing too. But by the same token, that's what the market has been becoming lately (sad to say).

We also have a major problem coming all of our ways!!!!
I just opened someone's page to find a video ad for (i think) Human Target/Clash Of The Titans.... it played automatically!!! WOLFMAN SYNDROME ALL OVER AGAIN!!!
please stop this madness! :)
answer
answer - 3/14/2010, 8:24 AM
@ManOfIron, Here's the FanSite page that tell you how to set one up!

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/about-us/fansites/

@Scarface, I also agree with what you are saying. Not that I post articles up here (I think i've only posted 3 or 4 ever) But I enjoy the majority of articles up here and to see the ones that have had some serious effort put on them by another clone-cast it puts me off even going in the Fan Fic Section!
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 9:10 AM
I,m not saying to delete everyones fan casts i,m saying in general these are all the same basic spider man fan casts with suble changes
I,m glad your a mindless drone BigDaddy who enjoys these things good for you.
Lots of these fan casts involve little work or though there the ones i,m pointing out there the one pushing the guys that really put the effort in to the second page
Shaman Posted a great sketch in the reviews tab and i,m sure it was cause he knows it will be pushed out of site in the fan fic section.
There should be a separate fan fic for trusted users is what i,m saying Scarface is DONE lol
Wadey09
Wadey09 - 3/14/2010, 9:50 AM
you see this was how i felt when i posted my first Spider-man fan fic.
i don't want people to think i'm just jumping on the bandwagon.
and yes not all of my casts are that original. but the story that i have been working on is. and because everyone is so tired of readin about Spider-man reboot casts/ideas, not many people are interested in mine. i've been working on this story for a year and have finally gotten the nerve to post it.

btw look out for Part 3 by Tuesday!
it SHOULD contain scenes 4-7 or possibly 8!
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 9:59 AM
Thats great Wadey09 post it. Originality is a good thing I,ll read it and post what I think. Its not you what i,m talking about its people who are just posting names and pictures no reasoning why no story just regurgitated crap.
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 10:00 AM
I here you teabag and thats the way it should be
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 10:06 AM
Just before anyone else tries to jump down my throat, I,m not saying only select people should be alowed to post fan fics I,m saying there should be a separate fan fic area for the lack of a better term for senior members.
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 10:36 AM
This a quote fromm DDD from joslezio85 fanfic post
trying something new lemme know what ya think.



Great idea for a unique fancast!
And yes, something needs to be done about
all the tacky, short, stupid, pointless, or
one-man fancasts or fancasts just thrown
together with no artistic value whatsoever!

It's getting to where I don't really care
to do a fancast anymore cuz it just gets
buried so fast no one even knows it came
or went!

This is supposed to be a place for artistic
expression and stories and such! Not just a
place to vomit out whatever fumbles out of
the mind!

DDD is a very artistic dude I enjoy reading his take on things even if I don,t agree because he always has a good point on his take of things
SHHH
SHHH - 3/14/2010, 1:04 PM
I agree 100% with ya there...Yesterday's editoral may have started a war, I was all for it..Today it was a better way to sugar coat it..
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 1:06 PM
Thanks man
Check out Shamans review on Whip it in the reviews section he,s got another great sketch
SHHH
SHHH - 3/14/2010, 1:13 PM
That is why i try to do some of the animated movies from dc and marvel and use comic panels to compare with the animated stuff.. Can I post one of em right here to show you exactly what i'm talkin about????????????????

Make it longer and some what inventive..Then it get's buried fast..No problem im grown but it makes you not wanna keep makin them.. Or some just flat out quit but won't solve anything either..

OriginalPhysco
OriginalPhysco - 3/14/2010, 1:34 PM
@Wadey09,
Yea, thats the reason I havent posted half of my Spiderman Fan-Fic. I wasnt jumping on the wagon and I dont want people to think. I will just wait til your done with your whole Spiderman story til I post mine. I don wanna compete and I dont want people thinking I am. I love and look up to your stories. People should start being like that; Respecting others work like I do. If people have fresh ideas, they should wait til they have it all and til the person is done. If they don have fresh and upgraded ideas, then don post shit. Im getting tired of the same Cast over and over, word f or word, title for title. My story has a cast in it but they are shown after the characters are introduced. They are shown in parentheses.

Look for my story in the future.
The Chosen Wall Crawler
Shaman
Shaman - 3/14/2010, 1:52 PM
Scarface, ol' buddy ol' pal, i never get enough of you!!! You're awesome and we honestly miss your comments on every thread. Thanks so much for the shout-outs and i can't believe i missed your other editorial! If you have it on a word document, send it to me in the contact me link of my fan site, cause i'd really really like to read it.

I agree about 98% with everything you say!!! The fan fic section has turned to shit where story masters like Hawk and cast masters like DDD & a whole slew of others are severely mistreated by all the liquid shit poored over them. The whole point of why "I" started full fan cast articles weren't only to show "who" i wanted for certain roles but WHY!!!! It's the WHY that matters, THE EXPLANATION, THE REASON, THE LOGIC, THE MEAT!!!! But new kids on the CBM block don't seem to know that. They think it's about the pretty pictures. So the only outcome possible is for fan fic to turn to shit. Other than the style guide, there isn't much of a quality control offered for Fan Fics, instead it turns into the website's trash can. If an article doesn't have more than a few lines and a shit load of picture, it's dumped over great fan fic articles that do deserve attention they aren't getting. And i really don't think that the best idea is to move every fan caster into a separate playground built outside of the website's walls. That would be fine for all the people that simply do it for fun to kill time but for the people that poor their heart out in every article they do, it's not an option since no one will go to see them. I myself, haven't visited the fan fic section regularly in months! Cause there really isn't a point to start a conversation about a well thought out article in there when it's gonna be plungered down the drain in a day. So until radical restructuring happens to that section, i will not be present in it.

Now the 2% of me that doesn't fully agree with you is because i myself haven't been that talented since birth. I had to start at the bottom, making liquid shit and just adding spices to it every time to try and make it loved by the majority more and more. So i can relate to the newcomers that haven't mastered the art their shitting on at the moment. But i think you might be on to something here. To simply let the inmates run the asylum would be idiotic. But to move their articles that need work somewhere else with a list of tips to help improve them would definitely be the best way in the users' point of view. HOWEVER... here's where the ADMINISTRATOR's point of vue comes in. You do realise that there are shitloads of fan fic articles that get poored in the fan fic section every day. For an editor to push up or remove certain articles and link lists of improvement tips to, would actually take a riculous amount of work and time. Too much for the "volunteer"(unpaid) editors to deal with as well as the very administrator of this website alone. Right now... it would apear that i was right from the beginning and that they literally created a monster. And that's why i think that the option they're working on might not be the best option for us but the only reasonable one for them.

But seriously, the very huge "better" part of me very much agrees with your awesome article which it's soul purpose is merely to help the website remain the best there is. AWESOME JOB, BRO!!! :))
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 2:38 PM
Thanks for droppin by Shaman and I see were your comin from with the 2 percent.
I believe if evertybody sits down and talks about this we can figure out something to benefit this site cause it is a great playground to play in
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 2:42 PM
Thanks wolveriept and feel free to post your pick and fics right here guys
And Shaman is right of course perhaps education is the answer here.
Maybe cbm should have stricker guidlines to follow before you can post a fan fic
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 2:45 PM
I,m sure the editors are watching because they deleted my first editorial and are lettin this one stand for some odd reason. I,m sure eyes are upon it.
Sorry Shaman I did'nt keep a copy of my first post it was kinda sper of the moment thing after reading joslezio85 idea
Shaman
Shaman - 3/14/2010, 2:46 PM
wolverinept- That was actually a great compliment, man! Thank you, and great comment! I'd love for the newcomers to have a place to themselves, to grow and learn from the pros, that would be awesome! But in another way, i'd rather that place be somewhere they can't hinder the success of the pros. I guess its impossible to have a win win situation here.

Scarface- No problem bud! You're quite welcome ;) Oh and this editorial is quite constructive so i think it has a valid reason to stay on!

Where can i find Joslezio's idea? LOL
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 2:52 PM
Its in fan fic Shaman under trying something new lemme know what ya think
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 3/14/2010, 2:54 PM
did you ever think that maybe your article got deleted for grammar and punctuation?? lol. sorry, just being "brutally honest."

anyway, i kind of agree with you on some things. it gets tiring seeing all the fan casts that people keep putting up. not so much the guys like Josh or Tyler and others, they clearly put a lot of thought into it. but a lot of people just rehash things, and it gets so ridiculous...to the point where i don't even read fan casts at all anymore.

Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 3:00 PM
lol Thats what I,m talkin about CorndogBurglar.
Its ok I can laugh at myself too. I know my punctuations are not always proper. But see my point your not the first guy to say to me you don,t read the fan fics anymore.
It use to be a great discusion forum
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 3:13 PM
And by all means SHHH post your animations here I,ll be happy to watch it
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 3/14/2010, 4:07 PM
I very rarely read fan fic these days. When I see someone like josh or Tyler or DDD, or Hawk and so on, say in another article that they have a new cast up, I go and check it out. I know it will be worth the trip.

I think the best thing that could happen with the entire situation is for people to use just a little restraint.

If Zak Effron just pops in to your brain as Spider Man that doesn't mean you should do an article just to post a picture of Effron as Spidey.

Anybody browsing the fan cast section knows which fan casts are well thought out. No, I didn't say you have to like every pick in a well thought out cast. I'm just saying anyone can look at the format used and the points made as to why, how and when and know if the article is well presented. Everyone recognises an article well done.

Therefore, if you do an article of your own, take a good look at it in the preview section to see if you think it measures up quality wise (NOT FAN PICKS, THEY ARE YOUR PICKS THAT'S WHAT MAKES THEM GOOD) I'm talking overall quality of the article. If you don't think it looks good or is an interesting read or grabs your attention (DON'T POST IT UNTIL YOU GET IT WHERE YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE).

And if it is only a Zak Effron suggestion don't bother with an article, post your suggestion and why you made it when somebody actually creates an entire Spider Man fan cast. Thats what the comment section is for. And, I might add, where the good discussions begin.

But thats just my opinion and I could be wrong.
peterparker420
peterparker420 - 3/14/2010, 4:29 PM
THIS IS AGREAT ARTICLE! I have posted FAN FIC in the past but I also like to post my Comic music videos, But since there is so much traffic on fanfic..I don't even bother, cause 6 hours later it will be at the bottom of tha page and then forgotten about just as quickly. I also LOVE to look at the amazing work that goes into making them and I know how long it takes to do a QUALITY fan cast, cause I have done a couple "Identity crisis 1 and 2" and also a "ganger girl" fancast, also 3-4 videos..but latly since there is alot of new comers putting up the same old fan fic over and over again, I think to myself..why waste my time, and what about the amazing stories posted by thehawk, they get pushed down by stuff that shouldn't be posted in the first place..All I ask is for a little more QUALITY CONTROL. Also is really ONE tab large enough to handle all the fan cast and fan art and stories?..If there is MORE quality contol, then the answer
would be YES..but there really is nothing saying Don't post JUNK. maybe there should be.
NJdevil12
NJdevil12 - 3/14/2010, 4:37 PM
This is a great discussion...i know i dont comment much but i do come to the site everyday for the news and for many of the stories. thing is i used to make sure i always checked the fanfic section everytime i came on here..now i just go there when i've read all the news and have nothing else to do. and whenever i do wander off to there i dont even bother to look at the article headings anymore, i just scroll down and look for a reconizable name (ex: josh, hawk, tyler etc..)because i know that i'll enjoy whatever they have in there. now it shouldnt really have to be like that, you should be able to go and expect most to all the posts there to be great, anyways thats just my 2 cents.
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 3/14/2010, 4:44 PM
NJdevil12: Exactly, I used to check out every one of them, it was great fun. Now there are soooooo many everyday that just appear to be grafiti, that I try to avoid it. It's more like a chore than a pleasure to wade through them.
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 5:03 PM
This is exactly what I wanted guys great ideas on how to fix the problem
Quality control extra tabs sooner or later Galactus will here.
Also I,m the same as the rest of you I could'nt wait to get home and read TheMyths newest fanfic or Shamans pick for a movie or TheHawks epics 330+ fan casts and fics and now rarely stop
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 3/14/2010, 5:23 PM
Not sure if I'd consider myself an "old timer" but like Shaman, Hawks, teabag...I've been here for quite a long time and remember when Fan-Fic was THE place to read. All the original stories and fan-casts were incredible. It's a shame to just see random stuff thrown together and called "work." It's even worse when they steal pictures!!!

I don't have a solution to the problem, but it'd be nice to see some restraint by the users. Look through the articles before you post, more than likely, your pick that you think is original...ain't!

My respect goes out to those who spend some time and effort, hours and hours of time on their stories and articles, because I know how hard they are to do. I don't post many articles, but I at least try to make sure they are original.

Great topic by the way, and well said.
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 5:24 PM
@ Tea I,m looking forward to yur fanfic i,ll check it out for sure.
To pan back a few posts to something Shaman had to say about the resources involved for lack of a better term police the fanfic section, maybe its time CBM asks for more volunteers to help out I,m sure some of the older dogs around here would'nt mind helping.
I would gladly throw my name in the hat to help as i,m sure others here would too.
Maybe articles should not just be pushed down the fanfic ladder just because someone else posted another spider man fancast maybe the mods should check up more and make a pecking order each day. A great fan cast by DDD will get way more posts if left in the top spot for more then a day then any other reboot one man fan cast
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 3/14/2010, 5:27 PM
@Scarface- I'd be more than happy to help out with something like that!
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 5:30 PM
@ ecksmanfan thanks man and yeah your an old timer lol
and thanks to joslezio85 he was the one to inspire me to get involved. I read his fanfic and the posts to follow and just started typing
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 5:31 PM
One more for the list Galactus :) @ecksmanfan
SHHH
SHHH - 3/14/2010, 6:11 PM
Use comic panels

Planet Hulk is a Animated movie by Marvel.

This is a look at the comic.

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Then the Animated Dvd


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In Planet Hulk Iron Man, Dr.Strange, Namor, and Mr. Fantastic ship Hulk away in a Sheid ship and Banish him forever. they were also known as the Illuminati. Btw Namor was stongly against it in the comic and in the comic Mr. Reed Richards explain's why they tricked him.

The animated film begins in roughly the same way as the original story, except you'll notice that it's Tony Stark (IRON MAN) delivering the farewell speech to Bruce instead of Reed Richards (MR. FANTASTIC). This is because the Marvel animated line is trying to build a connection with the live action movie series leading up to the AVENGERS movie. Credit to http://peur-evol.blogspot.com/2010/01/planet-hulk.html.



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The cast The Hulk will be 100% cgi no Bruce, i'm sticking with the guy from the Animated Movie.. Rick D. Wasserman

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Eric Bana is

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Rosario Dawson is

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Zoe Saldana is

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Paul Bettany is

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Michael Fassenbender is The Preacher turned Gladiator.

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Michael Clarke Duncan is

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I know in the Animated Movie it was Beta Ray Bill but i prefer..Laurence Fishburne as the Voice of

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Luke Goss is

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And also Cgi Death's Head 3.0

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OriginalPhysco
OriginalPhysco - 3/14/2010, 6:13 PM
They let you keep it? Wow dude, this may work. Watever you need help with and you need someone, Im here. need help with anything because I wanna be in this war too
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 6:14 PM
@ SHHH you,ve posted this before I think I remember this. I love me some Rosario GRRRRRRRRRR
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 6:16 PM
Its not a war just a platform for guys like us to voice our opinions and simply stoping by and posting is good for now bro @ Promorus :)
AshleyWilliams
AshleyWilliams - 3/14/2010, 6:20 PM
I never make a Fan Cast with no explanation or less than 5 characters.
It's pointless to do otherwise.
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 6:20 PM
This was just posted by one of the most artistic, talented, and nice guys here Shaman in joslezio85s fanfic.

You see, i had no idea this convo was going on! I don't come here anymore... AT ALL!!! This place sucks now, i completely agree with the majority! I don't see what Galactus could do to spruce it up quality wise but i'm in favor of "something" being done or else i'm just not comming back here.


Sorry for posting this here Shaman without your permission I just want Galactus to see what he stands to lose. Shaman is not the first guy with a statement such as this
OriginalPhysco
OriginalPhysco - 3/14/2010, 6:21 PM
Ok and there is good news. VenomComics aka Hoey has deleted his shitty cast. Whew, feels good to change things
Scarface
Scarface - 3/14/2010, 6:28 PM
Its a start
I don,t want to discourage shity fancasts
I want to encourage great ones and for it to be great time and effort and information need to be there.
Not this guy for spidey cause he young an look the part
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 3/14/2010, 6:29 PM
@wolverine- Thanks man. I've been frustrated by that tab for some time, just didn't think it'd do any good to say something. Maybe if enough is said, a solution may come out of it.

@Scarface- just a bit of a thank you:
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