Ror Reviews: FANTASTIC FOUR Is Not Quite As Bad As You've Heard

Ror Reviews: FANTASTIC FOUR Is Not Quite As Bad As You've Heard

Josh Trank's Fantastic Four reboot hits theaters this weekend, and critics have not been kind - In fact, the movie currently holds a 9% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Does it deserve such a sound pasting? Actually... not really. Click on for my take, which does include some SPOILERS...

Review Opinion
By MarkCassidy - Aug 06, 2015 07:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

Let's get one thing straight right from the off: Fantastic Four is not a good movie; it's actually a pretty bad one - but that doesn't mean it doesn't have its share of good, even great things going for it. We've all heard the rumors of BTS problems that plagued the production, but without knowing exactly what went down it's unfair to attribute any of that to what went wrong here. That being said, the glaringly obvious contrast between the engaging sci-fi superhero flick this starts off as and the laughable CGI clusterfu*ck it becomes, does suggest a bit of unwanted meddling somewhere along the line.


There's nothing particularly original about the first act - it's really just your typical superhero origin story - but the cast are all on form, and we are at least mostly invested in the characters... with the possible exception of Jamie Bell's Ben Grimm, who is in the movie for all of about 3 minutes. Plus, Trank makes their transformations seem genuinely frightening, and even injects a bit of body horror for good measure. It's after this when the movie jumps forward a year that The Thing things begin to go pear shaped.

There's something to be said for trying to dispense with the usual "coming to terms with the powers" stuff, but it's all just handled so poorly. When we should be seeing the team interact and build upon the relationships that were established before their accident, instead we get a bunch of painfully dull scenes featuring the individual characters jawing with Tim Blake Nelson's military asshole, who seems to be trying to beat the world record for obnoxiously chewing gum on camera.

Ah, but the worst is yet to come my dear CBMers.

Doctor Doom returns from Earth Zero, kills a bunch of people, the team follows him back to Earth Zero, spout a bunch of unbelievably cliched dialogue, "kill" him, come back to earth, spout a bunch of unbelievably cheesy, stupid dialogue. The end.



It's honestly, seriously that rushed and haphazard, with no emotional impact or engaging team dynamics whatsoever. If it turned out they fired Trank halfway through production and hired someone straight out of film school to complete the movie, along with a bunch of equally inexperienced editors, it wouldn't be surprising in the slightest. It's such a shame too, because this film had so much potential. The biggest casualty is probably Toby Kebbell as Victor Von Doom, who really makes for a fine bad guy - even when he returns looking rather silly as his supervillain alter-ego, he still gets a few badass (and surprisingly violent) scenes.

Bad? Sure. A complete disaster? No. A pretty good first 40 minutes or so, then you still get the feeling there's a much better movie struggling to break free from the somewhat tedious middle section, before just giving up and allowing the wretchedness to completely engulf the finale. A wasted cast, a wasted opportunity - but not a total write-off.


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Kr08
Kr08 - 8/6/2015, 7:47 PM
This is why I don't understand Rotten Tomatoes. They all say the film had a good start and good middle but obviously the ending is just bad. All the individual reviews either say 2/5 or 3/5, then it shouldn't be such a low score.
skeebolistic84
skeebolistic84 - 8/6/2015, 7:48 PM
ok
KurtCrawler
KurtCrawler - 8/6/2015, 7:49 PM
I usually trust your reviews on here.

And 2.5 stars does not warrant my hard earned money.
KurtCrawler
KurtCrawler - 8/6/2015, 7:50 PM
@Kr08

The low score is the percent of critics who gave it a over all rotten score. Usually 2.5/5 or lower gets it that. So that means about 90% of critics thinks it is 2.5/5 or worse.
Antley
Antley - 8/6/2015, 7:50 PM
Ha!
GiantNerd
GiantNerd - 8/6/2015, 7:55 PM
No surprise here.
AlexdoxA
AlexdoxA - 8/6/2015, 7:55 PM
the good news is that this movie will not be important and Tim Blake Nelson will still be a possibility to continue with his MCU character if there's any plan for that in the future
MrMartyMarvel
MrMartyMarvel - 8/6/2015, 7:56 PM
@Kr08

Something that a lot of people on this site don't seem to understand is that RT doesn't rank how good a film is, but more so your odds of enjoying it. So despite the fact that Fant4stic has some good things going for it, there's still a rather low chance that you'll walk out of the theater calling it a good movie.
Pedrito
Pedrito - 8/6/2015, 7:56 PM
Most reviews say the movie starts ok.. So what? I don't go to the movies to watch only part of a movie.
Also, highlighting the positives before ripping the movie apart makes for better writing and shows that the reviewer gave it a fair chance.

The RT score is simply the percentage of reviewers saying: thumbs up, go see it.
Conclusion: don't waste your money
DVonShakari
DVonShakari - 8/6/2015, 7:58 PM
Ror must be a 9 percenter
Sephiroth
Sephiroth - 8/6/2015, 8:00 PM
This movie got everybody looking like
ralfinader
ralfinader - 8/6/2015, 8:01 PM
So if I bought half a ticket, it might be worth seeing which half now? The first or last? Would they let me split the middle, or maybe buy 40 minutes worth of watching?
NerdsCandy
NerdsCandy - 8/6/2015, 8:01 PM
"The movie isn't that bad. But heres 2.5 of 5 stars"

lol


K den
DVonShakari
DVonShakari - 8/6/2015, 8:03 PM
The only way I'll see this movie is if someone pays my way
Retribution13
Retribution13 - 8/6/2015, 8:04 PM
So in other words, this movie is as bad as we've heard.

Just like the movie, this was dumb.
animeex
animeex - 8/6/2015, 8:05 PM
NELLOGISTICS
NELLOGISTICS - 8/6/2015, 8:05 PM
I'll stick to my rotten tomatoes thank you very much

Utopian8418
Utopian8418 - 8/6/2015, 8:06 PM
Is it worse than Green Lantern??
MarvelMainEvent
MarvelMainEvent - 8/6/2015, 8:07 PM
I do value your posts Mark Cassidy so I’m glad to hear you say there are some good parts. Regardless of reviews I will check out for myself as sometimes they are way off. I doubt it when this many come in bad but sometimes once the freefall starts many reviewers are afraid to go against the grain (sticking with negative if majority already gave negative and vice versa with positive).

What I don’t get is how many people bash this BEFORE seeing it. It’s not bad enough they favor one superhero movie company over another; in this case they bash a Marvel property because it’s not made by Disney.

Honestly, if you’re a true comic book fan and even more a Marvel comic book fan; you don’t hope for a Marvel property to fail. I’m sorry, FF is a big part of Marvel comics and it amazes me how people go out of their way to trash this movie without even seeing it. If they want to trash it after that’s acceptable but this bandwagon jumping is getting silly.

I’m a bigger Marvel fan than 95% of the people on this site and no way if you’re a fan too you simply don’t promote a movie to fail before even seeing it.
I may come back tomorrow and say it stinks and that’s fine but at least I’m seeing it to determine.
Blastaar
Blastaar - 8/6/2015, 8:09 PM
This probably would have been a great movie if it wasn't supposed to the Fantastic Four!!! They took would probably would have been awesome as a standalone Sci-fi movie and sandwiched it with the F4 in or to keep the license movie rights. Dumb move, now give up those rights or investors will think twice about dealing with you if you try to hold on to this franchise out of spite, arrogance, and greed.
MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 8/6/2015, 8:09 PM
Can't decide if I want to see this or Mission Impossible. I hear both are great
SecNotSure
SecNotSure - 8/6/2015, 8:09 PM
With all the negativity surrounding the Fantastic Four movies, IF Marvel ever gets the rights back, I'd like to see this:

MyNameIsKhan
MyNameIsKhan - 8/6/2015, 8:12 PM
@MRC56 Rogue Nation. See it in IMAX.
DoomBot666
DoomBot666 - 8/6/2015, 8:12 PM
This movie is already so in the red, I can't picture it ever coming back out lol
MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 8/6/2015, 8:14 PM
From everything I've heard and read, Trank was right. Fox ruined his movie. With the first half, people can tell that was Trank's vision. Sci-fi, little bit of horror influence, that somewhat Cronenberg style. Then Fox took over and destroyed it. This is what happens when you pander to fanboys whining. You end up with a jumbled mess of a movie because you discard the director's vision.
Hulksta
Hulksta - 8/6/2015, 8:15 PM
"FANTASTIC FOUR Is Not Quite As Bad As You've Heard"

MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 8/6/2015, 8:17 PM
@MercwithMouth it is interesting to think about when you consider the first act has been praised by pretty much everyone, obviously the direction he wanted.
Reasonnnn
Reasonnnn - 8/6/2015, 8:17 PM
@MrCBM56 ROGUE NATION a couple of times. I think it's the best of the series yet. A combination of Brian De Palma's original and Brad Bird's GHOST PROTOCOL. Smart writing, great chemistry between the cast, a good villain (who needed more screentime) and the breakout performance for Rebecca Ferguson (which you've probably heard from now). I love the whole "loyalty" angle about how government agencies just use you and discard you when they're done with you.
Reasonnnn
Reasonnnn - 8/6/2015, 8:18 PM
@MrCBM56 It also feels very retro, very Hitchcock but still has some sick gadgets.
MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 8/6/2015, 8:18 PM
@MrCBM56

It's the only thing that makes sense. We know what direction Trank wanted to go, and the movie apparently takes a 180 degree turn halfway through.
AleSir19
AleSir19 - 8/6/2015, 8:18 PM
@Kr08

The Beginning of the movie is ok and follow really well the Ultimate Comics, that are not the better ones, but at less follow the comics, later the second act where the development happen, it moves one year forward and avoid every chances of development, finally the third act is a simple and right end to the movie cheesy and CGI heavy.

So the problem is that they dont development the characters, they dont put the relationship of Reed Richards and his family, the problems he have with his father and how his father prefers Ben Grimm.

They dont development right the relationship of Reed and Susan, the movie could have use a fast forward and the Baxter foundation to development out of screen the relationship between Reed, Sue and Johnny, using the first part to explain the relationship of Ben and Reed, but they dont do this and prefer to put everything in screen.

Doom is a joke, because his motivations are not right, he could have try to kill Reed, because he make prud Franklim Storm, but that doesnt happen, he could have try to kill Reed and the others because he end up with Sue and even he could have try to kill every one because they make him look like shit, but anything of that happen.

So yes the movie does nothing to development the characters that have in his hands.
Blastaar
Blastaar - 8/6/2015, 8:19 PM
@MarvelMainEvent, Most of your "predictions" don't come true and I see you have a subtle "passive agressive" sneakiness, pretending to be a Marvel fan but always try to put down Marvel Studios movies with your "projections". You are not fooling anyone.

If people see that with their own eyes, the unnecessary deviations, studio problems, and all of the other negative things going on with this new movie, resulting with the consensus of MOST people NOT liking this film after actually SEEO G it, then why does there have to be something wrong or not "fanlike" if people don't want to support something that they feel that does not represent or has done a good job with something that they are fans of. Sprinkle sugar on sh*t and it still is and will taste like sh*t. And I don't need to eat that sh*t because it has my favorite brand of sugar on it.
thomashilfiger
thomashilfiger - 8/6/2015, 8:20 PM
I literally just got back from the movie.

The first part was really good. The first time they enter Earth Zero gives a real feeling of anxiety to the watcher.

For me, the ending wasn't that good, but it wasn't THAT bad as well. I mean, it was problematic, yes. Doom didn't have a good motivation - like, at all and that's my problem with him (I'm not a comic book reader, so I actually liked/didn't mind his "design"). That last part felt rushed like "blink and miss". I'd be surprised if that last battle sequence took a whole 10 minutes because it sure didn't seem like it. And also they killed Doom preeeetttty fast. Like, super fast. Each of them got their shot and then everyone does it.

I also didn't have problems with the CGI - I thought it looked pretty great overall.

But definitely there was something missing - probably better group dynamics...

And also, there was SO MANY scenes from the trailer that didn't make it to the final cut, which is sad, cause I found those trailers really good.
Kr08
Kr08 - 8/6/2015, 8:21 PM
@Alesir19 Thanks for that. I'm going to see it tomorrow here in Miami. I take it English isn't your first language? If not, then good job, man! You did well writing it out. Where are you from?
JorL5150
JorL5150 - 8/6/2015, 8:26 PM
Sometimes i think i want to see Miley cyrus naked.

Then i remembered i was 12 once and so ive already seen it.
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