THE FANTASTIC FOUR Star Ebon Moss-Bachrach On Jack Kirby Inspiration, THE PUNISHER Role, And The Thing VFX

THE FANTASTIC FOUR Star Ebon Moss-Bachrach On Jack Kirby Inspiration, THE PUNISHER Role, And The Thing VFX

The Fantastic Four: First Steps star Ebon Moss-Bachrach has explained how Jack Kirby inspired his approach to The Thing and shares his take on the connection between Ben Grimm and The Punisher's Micro...

By JoshWilding - Apr 11, 2025 05:04 AM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four
Source: Entertainment Weekly

The Thing has been brought to life on screen a few times over the years, both with a practical costume and as a motion-capture VFX creation. In The Fantastic Four: First Steps, Ebon Moss-Bachrach plays the ever-lovin' blue-eyed superhero, and this version is far more comic-accurate. 

As Entertainment Weekly explains, the MCU's take will be VFX, but there was a crucial practical element on set.

Moss-Bachrach wore a gray motion-capture suit with green dots for many scenes, while some costumes had "different body extensions" to better help him portray the character. There was even a stand-in who wore a Thing costume, helping the actor's co-stars to remember how much space he takes up and give them something to act against.

"I've never collaborated with so many people — literally hundreds of people, between the animators and the designers. It was a real team effort," the actor tells the site. "Even though a lot of it is motion-capture and created in animation, all of those costume pieces were built. We always had a suit on set that was the actual proportions so we could see how it would all fit."

"It was an ongoing and never-ending kind of dialogue between me and the designers and the VFX people. It was a unique experience. I felt like the brain: I would make creative choices, and then we'd circle back, and they'd make it happen," Moss-Bachrach continued. 

"I was deeply, deeply impressed by the seriousness and the dedication that all the designers had to make this man compelling and human and inhuman all at the same time."

The Fantastic Four: First Steps star also found a way to relate to Ben Grimm on a personal level. Moss-Bachrach also praised the practical Yancy Street and how being immersed in that benefited his performance. 

"Jack Kirby wrote this character [of Ben Grimm] as a bit of an homage to his father, and to the streets that he grew up on," he explains. "I'm a New Yorker, and I've spent a lot of time on Essex Street, on Delancey, on Clinton."

"So it does feel like home to me, and the production did a beautiful job recreating that. It was so cool to walk down and see the hat seller and the fish seller," Moss-Bachrach added. "I was shocked that we were outside of London because it fully felt like the Lower East Side."

It's also not lost on the actor that there's a loose connection between The Thing and his character in Netflix's The Punisher, Micro. "I think it's cool that Micro is named David Lieberman, who takes his last name from Stan Lee. Then Ben Grimm is this Kirby amalgamation. So, in my brief two portrayals of Marvel characters, I've hit the two big guys. It's a deep honor that I take to heart."

While some fans are unhappy with what they've seen of The Thing (the MCU's Ben is smaller than in some comic books, but the same size as he's been portrayed in others), all signs point to Marvel Studios doing right by the hero.

The Fantastic Four: First Steps is set to be released in theaters on July 25, 2025. Check out some new stills from the movie below.

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vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 4/11/2025, 5:20 AM
Hearing rumors of a Sue Storm boss lady and unfunny Johnny.

Marvel has to always ruin things if true, right? 🫠
MartianManHuntr
MartianManHuntr - 4/11/2025, 5:34 AM
@vectorsigma - Sue storm being a boss lady is given with feige at this point, we don't need rumour for that.
Trick would be to depict others correctly instead of showing incompetent without boss beatch.
MartianManHuntr
MartianManHuntr - 4/11/2025, 5:28 AM
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Make thing as tragic as possible, no jokes please.
MaximusTheMad
MaximusTheMad - 4/11/2025, 5:33 AM
@MartianManHuntr -

If you mean that, then you know nothing about The Thing lol.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 4/11/2025, 5:33 AM
@MartianManHuntr - he sucks his own thing
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MartianManHuntr
MartianManHuntr - 4/11/2025, 5:40 AM
@MaximusTheMad - Marvel tends to write all characters as joke that's my main gripe. Thing can crack jokes, no issues but that shouldn't be all the time.

Don't undercut everything with jokes even an emotional scene, is my point.
MartianManHuntr
MartianManHuntr - 4/11/2025, 5:58 AM
@harryba11zack - User Comment Image
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/11/2025, 10:48 AM
@MartianManHuntr - Thing has explosive diarrhea in that gif.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/11/2025, 10:49 AM
(the first gif)
Pictilli
Pictilli - 4/11/2025, 5:40 AM
Worst casting of the four, he looks nothing like Ben Grimm and his Thing voice sucks so far.
Thebronxknight
Thebronxknight - 4/11/2025, 12:20 PM
@Pictilli - Stop crying ya racist little twat
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 4/11/2025, 5:50 AM
Woke garbage movie incoming!
GodHercules20
GodHercules20 - 4/11/2025, 6:09 AM
Yes, more bitching from the specific users
deamon
deamon - 4/11/2025, 6:09 AM
Small?
He's like in original comics, even taller.
All those new comics are ridiculous.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/11/2025, 7:31 AM
Cool , it’s nice to see the level of research he’s done & dedication he has to the role!!.

I never noticed the loose connection Micro had to Stan Lee, I know the latter’s real last name was Lieber but I get what he means still & it’s a cool little detail.

Anyway , I think he seems good as Ben Grimm/The Thing…

Some people had issues with the normalness of his voice in the teaser but I didn’t mind it because it still made him feel human underneath imo rather then the gravelly voice we have heard in other iterations.

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Batmangina
Batmangina - 4/11/2025, 7:40 AM
The shine is already wearing off of this MFer fast.

Pedro is a shitty casting job. Full stop.

Every time I see him as Reed, I see Pedro Pascal. Where's the stretching?

I'm figuring they're not showing it because a gooey Pedro doesn't look very appealing.

The rest of the 'improvements' are not encouraging, either.

I'm okay with the MCU being one big fan service cameo cluster[frick] movie every few years - like the yearly Annuals or GIANT-SIZE comics when I was a kid.

They've got nothing else.
WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 4/11/2025, 8:23 AM
@Batmangina - Let's face it. The stretch is not going to look good. It's a stupid power. His brain has always been his "power".
dragon316
dragon316 - 4/11/2025, 8:24 AM
@Batmangina - hate to say it to people hollywood does not always fan cast people thought I was being jerk about it I wasn’t I was stating fact Add kang to list in comics he’s white in movie he’s black
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Thebronxknight
Thebronxknight - 4/11/2025, 12:18 PM
@dragon316 - 🤣 That thumbnail, the drawing looks like a black girl. This is so dumb.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 4/12/2025, 11:11 AM
@Batmangina - Full stop, yourself. The film ain't even out yet for you to act like you know what you're talking about.
Radders
Radders - 4/11/2025, 9:06 AM
Ah nice paying respect to "Disney Legend" Jack Kirby
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/11/2025, 10:52 AM
If this movie is being blasted for being too woke and yet still makes a billion dollars, will this finally put a stop to the myth of go woke go broke?

No it won't. It never does. People will revise history saying that this was never woke and they never thought it was woke and that they always knew it would be a success.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 4/11/2025, 6:01 PM
@ObserverIO - BINGO! Honestly...I just trying and ignore it. They are even worth keep track of. Just some inconsistent....its ridiculous. I hope that narrative doesn't hinder creative.

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