GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 3 Director James Gunn Considered Annihilus As Villain; Will Not Make A VOL. 4

GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 3 Director James Gunn Considered Annihilus As Villain; Will Not Make A VOL. 4

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 director James Gunn has confirmed that he considered using Fantastic Four villain Annihilus as the threequel's big bad, while also making it clear he has no plans to make Vol. 4.

By JoshWilding - May 07, 2023 06:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Vol. 3

With Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 now playing in theaters, writer and director James Gunn has taken to Twitter to answer some "Yes" and "No" questions from fans. 

Perhaps the biggest reveal from the filmmaker came when he confirmed reported Annihilus was considered as both the threequel's lead villain and Rocket's creator. The Fantastic Four baddie has a history with the Guardians after clashing with them in the Annihilation comic book event, so making the alien the final foe they faced in this trilogy would have made sense. 

We're not sure what led to Gunn choosing The High Evolutionary instead, but there's every chance Marvel Studios want to use Annihilus when Marvel's First Family makes their MCU debut a couple of years from now. 

Gunn has also reiterated that he has no plans to make Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 4

He's said for a while now that this franchise was always meant to be a trilogy so, despite what we saw in the movie's post-credits scenes, it seems we can forget about the DC Studios co-CEO returning to tell one more story with these heroes. That includes an "Asgardians of the Galaxy" project too!

Despite that, the filmmaker has had some conversations with Marvel Studios about their future plans for the Galaxy's biggest A-Holes heroes...

"As heart-wrenching as it is hilarious," we said in our review earlier this week, "Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 is James Gunn’s masterstroke and a showcase for both his filmmaking talent and a cast that makes everything about this movie simply awesome. An absolute triumph."

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MarvelZombie616
MarvelZombie616 - 5/7/2023, 6:58 AM
Terrible idea.
Annihilus should be the villain for a multiple movie Annihilation x-over.
Kozmik
Kozmik - 5/7/2023, 1:45 PM
@MarvelZombie616 - Indeed. When has Annihilus created anything?
Blergh
Blergh - 5/7/2023, 7:15 AM
I suppose we'll see something like "The New Guardians of the Galaxy" in a few years time.
Marvel will wait and see how Gunn's DCU performas and nab him up when or if he leaves that project and attempt to coerce him into starting a new trilogy. This might happen sooner than later, I'm not certain Gunn can save the DCU with the way he announced his reboot/non-reboot plans.
Kurne
Kurne - 5/7/2023, 7:34 AM
Legit still can't imagine how execs at Disney/Marvel feel seeing Gunn become the head of DC all because of that trigger firing years ago. When he was poised to stick around and help guide the MCU's cosmic setting, but now since 2019 Gunn's only talked about how he can't wait to move on.

Come on. Its gotta sting for someone, even just one person somewhere up top on Feige's level (if not Feige himself/Feige included). Its just insane how it all turned out.
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 5/7/2023, 7:54 AM
@Kurne - Sounds like you really want it to sting for somebody.
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/7/2023, 7:36 AM
Well if they made Nova(Richard Rider) and reformed The Guardians Of The Galaxy and added The Silver Surfer and do a huge cosmic event over 3 movies,a movie for each of cosmic heroes I mentioned.

Then do Annihilation.
SuperiorHeckler
SuperiorHeckler - 5/7/2023, 12:17 PM
@marvel72 - Unfortunately, from the precious little that has been divulged, NOVA was already reportedly a back, back, back-burner of a project even BEFORE the writers went on strike. At this point, God only knows when we will ever see NOVA... 🙁
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/7/2023, 8:27 AM

We will see more of the GotG in some way. Looking at Star Wars as an example, Disney will NEVER stop humping these characters for more moolah after all the cash they have made for the mouse.

Annihilus & Galactus should of course be saved for the Fantastic 4 along with the GREAT Dr. Doom. Those bad guys taking front stage have me really excited for the future of the MCU after all this Kang/variants/multiverse wornout nonsense is over.

Plus hopefully Dr. Strange & Clea will bring something great & cosmic into the mix too.

Then the X-Men..... MCUgasm!!! There is a lot to look forward to in the MCU.



StSteven
StSteven - 5/7/2023, 3:14 PM
@DocSpock - I agree with your points and would further explain it like this: Marvel is positioning itself to essentially be a cinematic comic shop, with at least one main group of characters for each of its subgenres: cosmic, supernatural/horror, magical/mystical, Earth-based, mutants, and street level (that's just off the top of my head). That way there's literally something for everyone, even if everything isn't for everyone, like a comic shop. Even though they didn't have much choice at the time, building the MCU starting with the Earth based heroes (i.e. the Avengers) was, in retrospect, arguably the best way they could have kicked things off because with strep level heroes the stakes are usually too low, while if they had started with something cosmic level, like GotG, it would have been to sci-fi space opera and would have been seen as a Star Wars rip off by the GA. By the end of "Avengers" the had established a range of characters with a range of abilities (i.e. ranging from Thor to Hawkeye) AND had introduced aliens and other cosmic entities. So then the success of that opened up the possibility to start going off in all this other directions.

So by the end of "A:EG" they had established the Earth based, cosmic, and magical/mystical characters, and in Phase 4 regardless of what anyone's feelings are about the quality of it, they introduced the supernatural/horror side and barely cracked the door open for the street level side with "Hawkeye", which we will obviously see explored more fully with "DD:BA", and probably to a lesser extent "Echo", which will pave the way for "SM:4" to fully embrace that side.

Then that covers pretty much all of the corners of the MCU and once they get there, there's no going back. I laid out that unnecessarily long and unneeded diatribe to respond to your comment about Disney never stopping to hump these characters. Once established, they will ALWAYS have some group of characters that represent those different subgenres, and as for the cosmic side, it may not be the GotG any time soon, but if no one else is introduced they conveniently have thee F4 coming right in to potentially fill that space. And is any coincidence that the F4 are a type of family just like how the GotG ended up being? Don't think so.

In fact, don't be surprised if that GotG "Prison Break" or whatever it's called ride at DW and DL gets remodeled into an "Escape from the Baxter Building" ride in the next 5 or so years. The Mouse never sleeps. Never.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/7/2023, 6:06 PM
@StSteven -

Those are some very good points. And I like it this way. Having many diff subgenres going makes sense. If all the eggs were in one basket, & they failed, things could go completely off the rails.

Then later they get to splash the X-Men(And the Starjammers please) all over all of it.

StSteven
StSteven - 5/7/2023, 8:57 PM
@DocSpock - Yeah. Obviously what I laid out assumes that Marvel has had a long-term plan for years, but based on what we've heard about a planning room at Marvel Studios where Feige has like, seriously, a 10 year plan laid out on white boards or whatever on the walls, I'm inclined to believe that that's the case. I mean, it makes total sense: if you were Feige and given total control of the assets that Marvel had as of 2007 (or earlier) and were challenged with "So this is what we have. What can you do with this?" and Feige responds with "Hold my beer" and then starts kicking out the MCU (which is kinda what it seems like what happened), and if you were to be optimistic that Kevin & Co. had this grand plan to get us to where we are with the MCU and where it's potentially going... well, hell, dude that's nothing short of breathtaking and may just end up being the most impressive feat ever accomplished in cinematic history. I kinda thin that they're in the middle of it right now, so let's see if they can stick the landing.

On a related note, however, imagine what Star Wars COULD have been if they had started their universe at around the same time as the MCU and had had someone like Feige in control. I'll give you a second to wipe the tears from your eyes... 😊. Seriously, it's not a fair comparison because obviously of the time, technology, etc. differences. But as a life-long Star Wars fan (I was there for Ep. 4 in the theaters although I don't remember it and exactly ONE of the OG figures), imagine just for a minute what the folks at Marvel could have done with SW nowadays vs. what they had to deal with 50 years ago. It may have well turned out like... oh I don't know... nothing comes to mind... wait! Oh, yeah, GotG!

Cheers!
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/8/2023, 1:13 AM
@StSteven -

That would have been great. Geez.... I was almost 20 when Star Wars came out.

StSteven
StSteven - 5/8/2023, 4:30 PM
@DocSpock - Yeah I was 1 year old when Star Wars came out so I guess ya got a couple of years on me, but it was my first real "sci-fi love" (soon to be replaced by Transformers in 1984). I had a ton of the SW toys but then sold them (almost) all in a garage sale when I got into TFs (I even tried to make my AT-AT Walker into a TF by standing it up on its hind legs). Fast forward to when I was a junior in high school and we moved out of the house that I grew up in and the process I found a "Death Squad Commander" (the guy with the gray suit and that HUGE black helmet) figure underneath our stove, slightly chewed by a dog. I still have him as the only remnant of my OG SW collection.

These days I have a corner of my movie room dedicated to SW, but I really only collect the "retro" figs that are re-releases of the OG figures. And as luck would have it, as part of Star Wars Day Hasbro just revealed a pre-order for a new collection of OG figs which includes... the Death Squad Commander: https://hasbropulse.com/collections/new/products/star-wars-retro-collection-star-wars-a-new-hope-collectible-figures-multipack.

Pre-ordered on-sight. I guess life is funny that way. 😊.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/8/2023, 4:51 PM
@StSteven -

Yeah. I read ALL the comics from about 1965- well.. now. I never got into the toys though, just the comics. When I got big time into the comic store scene in the early-mid 70s, there weren't hardly any toys in them. Transformers didn't exist. I was also heavily into hunting/camping/fishing by age 12-13 and never collected many toys after that. No GI Joes, action figures, or anything like that ever.

Besides the hunting/camping/outdoor life, my Dad instilled 2 great passions in me when I was young that I still love today. Baseball & Comic books. When other Dads read fairy tales to their kids, mine read Superman comics to me. He coached me in baseball from age 6 on too. Man, I missed the 60s & 70s.

StSteven
StSteven - 5/13/2023, 11:37 PM
@DocSpock - I feel ya man. I was fortunate enough to grow up in the 80s, which I think were more or less the pinnacle for kids toys. I mean, as far as boys toys we had such an amazing variety. And sure, the cartoons (like with TFs) were more or less animated commercials for the toys, but they comics were allowed to kinda do their own thing, and that's how (in the case of TFs anyway and likely other brands like GI Joe) they were able to establish the lore that those brands are based on today (for example the whole TF lore of Unicron and the 13 Primes, etc.).

So I guess I was lucky to grow up in that time. But then again, there was SO MUCH content and the associated toys that I didn't have the capacity to really get into stuff outside of TFs (like GI Joe, etc.). Regardless, I've been a lifelong TF fan and got into comics at right around the "Golden Age" of the 90's, but then of course that didn't last once I got far into high school.

FWIW, I'm glad that you had that type of relationship with your dad as a kid. For me, my dad was pretty 1 dimensional as a kid, as he was a businessman and was perpetually under a lot of stress, which my mom would use to discipline us as kids (that kind of "You just wait 'til your father gets home..." kinda thing. He's become much more of a 3D dad over the years, but I remember that his big thing when I was a kids was "No guns" (which meant I wasn't even allowed to have Megatron as a toy).

FWIW, my dad was a POW in Vietnam, and he literally watched his best friend's head get blown away with my dad's .45 when they were both prisoners in a camp (long story), so I can understand why he felt that way. As it is, I'm a science/tech/art/music/literature guy, so the whole absence of the wildlife aesthetic that you had doesn't really bother me that much.

That being said, before I met my wife (who is very decidedly an "indoor model"... for now...) I was a VERY outdoorsy guy and as a kid growing up we went camping, boating, hiking (I actually found myself trapped on top of a "mountain" outside of Louisville on time), skiing (both weather and snow), kneeboarding, etc. You get the point. So I'm hoping that one of these days I can get my wife to do some of this stuff (like I REALLY want to buy a boat on of these days, but that's going to be a little tricky since she doesn't know how to swim).

Anyhow, Nice talking with you man. Seems like we're on the same page on a lot of the topics posted here, so I look forward to future discussions. Cheers!
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 5/7/2023, 8:55 AM
They are obviously coming back, but probably with the team we see at the end (except for Kraglin, and another actor playing Rocket), despite recent comments, I dont see Chris Pratt starring in a Guardians movie without James Gunn.
cadunovaes01
cadunovaes01 - 5/7/2023, 12:25 PM
Annihilation is one of the best Marvel sagas in my opinion. It deserves a proper movie series.
Spoken
Spoken - 5/7/2023, 12:59 PM
Damn, I am holding out hope for his on screen debut in an F4 movie ngl.
OmegaEffect
OmegaEffect - 5/7/2023, 1:24 PM
Annihilus Is a cosmic powerhouse. The guardians villains have been pretty weak. The High Evolutionary was underpowered compared to his comicbook counterpart. So was Ego. Though I thought the movie was ok
OmegaEffect
OmegaEffect - 5/7/2023, 1:26 PM
@OmegaEffect - Annihilus and High Evolutionary Ego and Ronan are to big for this group of guardians to handle in my opinion
LeonNova
LeonNova - 5/7/2023, 3:36 PM
Gunn is probably done making Marvel films for the foreseeable future. He has an entire shared universe to oversee at DC on top of writing and directing Superman: Legacy himself, two roles even Feige’s never stepped into. He’s gonna be way too busy for anything Marvel-related. As for the GOTG, I highly doubt we’ve seen the last of them, the end credits even said Star-Lord would return. I don’t know that we’ll get a theatrical film with the new GOTG line-up, but I could see a special or mini-series on Disney+. If nothing else, we might see them show up in future cosmic stories like Nova or Silver Surfer, and almost certainly in Kang Dynasty/Secret Wars.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 5/7/2023, 9:15 PM
My first introduction to Annihilus was in the Fantastic Four 90 animated series so I'm happy that the chance remains for him to be one of their adversaries.
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