Why fans of 2008's "The Incredible Hulk" may not worry

Why fans of 2008's "The Incredible Hulk" may not worry

A short while ago, I asked where the box office love was for "The Incredible Hulk". But after seeing "The Avengers" teaser, there maybe more love than we thought. Possible SPOILERS herein.

Editorial Opinion
By StuartGreen01 - Jul 26, 2011 10:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Hulk

About a week or so again, I wrote an article asking "Where is the box-office love for 'The Incredible Hulk'?" I wrote how several Marvel Studios movies are in the works, some of which are sequels to movies that came out recently ("Thor" and "Captain America"), but no news for a "Hulk" sequel was mentioned despite the ABC live-action series that Guillermo del Toro is developing. Some people, myself included, are scratching our heads and wondering why, since Marvel is gung-ho on making new film sequels on their recent blockbusters and first-time debuts for the likes of "Ant-Man". Heck, even the continuity of "The Incredible Hulk" was barely acknowledged in recent Marvel Studios films, with a clip of said 2008 film featured in "Iron Man 2" when Nick Fury shows Tony Stark his file near the finale, and then a brief mention in "Thor", when Bruce Banner's old friend Dr. Erik Selvig mentions he "knew this scientist... a pioneer in gamma radiation." But that's it. REALLY? You can't even mention Banner by name?

But maybe Marvel has more of a plan for the Hulk than we think. And the continuity of "The Incredible Hulk" maybe getting more love than I originally believed.

At the end of "The Incredible Hulk", you see Bruce Banner is hiding out in Bella Coola, British Columbia in a cabin. Bruce is seen meditating. The countdown clock on-screen reads "Days Without Incident: 31", and then, Bruce opens his eyes and his pupils glow green. As the clock turns to "0", Bruce SMILES. Fade to black. Then we cue to the bar scene where Tony Stark talks with General Ross about how the Super-Soldier Program was put on ice for a reason and teases "What if I told you we were putting a team together?"

Okay, we know Tony MAY be talking about the Avengers, but why is Bruce, who spent all of that 2008 movie in hiding, trying to find a cure for his green-skinned, nine foot tall alter-ego, SMILING about his recent change? Is he getting control over the Hulk? Or something yet to be revealed?

The British Columbia scene in particular is the main reason for this editorial's existence. If you've seen "The Avengers" teaser after the end credits of "Captain America: The First Avenger" (which, like "Thor", I loved -- see "Cap" now!), you'll see a blink-and-you-miss-it scene of Mark Ruffalo's Bruce Banner removing his glasses (with green eyes), and then immediately after, you see a brief scene of several soldiers (S.H.I.E.L.D. agents, perhaps?) surrounding a cabin. In the window of the home, there's a flash of white that turns from white or yellow to green. GREEN. Why would a flash of light inside turn green?

My theory: this is how we're introduced to The Incredible Hulk in "The Avengers". The cabin/home we see is eerily similar looking to same one that Banner is in back in British Columbia. And while I don't have a screencap yet to put up of the cabin, if you've seen the teaser trailer, this would seem to make the most sense. Think about it. I believe it was Mark Ruffalo (or maybe someone else like Joss Whedon or Kevin Feige? I don't remember.) who teased that the Hulk gets a memorable entrance in "The Avengers" film. What could be more memorable than Banner being by found out by agents that have his place surrounded, changing into the Hulk and smashing everything, and everyone, in his path?

This would leave one question unanswered, though: why is haunted scientist Bruce Banner smiling when he's changing at the end of the 2008 film? Did he get control of the Hulk? Did Loki find him and gain control over a meditating Banner? What could have happened? Unfortunately, we won't know for sure until 2012, and trust me, "The Avengers" can't come fast enough for all of us die-hard fans who thought this film that just a few short years ago would have never come to the silver screen.

What do you guys think?

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HULK2099
HULK2099 - 7/26/2011, 11:52 PM
Hulk is a very complex character, I would say everything you've said here could very well be quit accurate
Orphix
Orphix - 7/27/2011, 3:21 AM
I think we will see that Banner will be an official member of the team...eventually...however I think The Hulk himself may need a little more 'persuading'.

I am guessing that Nick Fury will hand out the olive branch that SHIELD will help Banner either control or cure his 'condition' if he agrees to help them.

In fact Banner might not even join up in this film but just be hanging around the base waiting for a cure and then in the final act come in and save the day.

CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/27/2011, 5:13 AM
i think they'll pull an Ultimates.

They'll capture him in the beginning of the film, hopefully after an insane fight scene with the Avengers.

He'll be held in SHIELD custody for most of the movie, until the end, when they're fighting a threat that even the Avengers can not defeat. And then they'll unleash the Hulk on this unknown enemy to turn the tide.

I'm guessing the enemies will be the Skrulls, because that would be a big threat with an army of soldiers to fight. It would take the entire Avengers team, as well as Hulk to take the army down.

just my assumptions...
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/27/2011, 5:15 AM
@ stuart Green

I think you're right though. that cabin Banner is in at the end of Incredible Hulk is most likely the cabin that all the SHIELD soldiers are surrounding in the Avengers teaser.
kong
kong - 7/27/2011, 6:00 AM
They might do another, you know reboot but we're picking up where the last movie left off, because remember when the doctor who had the serum to cure banner was going bezerk and his head was getting bigger. I thought he was turning into Leader
95
95 - 7/27/2011, 6:24 AM
I really like the sound of this. That cabin is definitely Banner's.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/27/2011, 6:51 AM
@ redhood

thats because he was turning into Leader.
ROBBEATZZZ
ROBBEATZZZ - 7/27/2011, 7:26 AM
@StuartGreen01..YEA BRO YOUR ON TO SOMETHING..SOMEONE MENTIONED THAT CABIN ON A COMMENT THREAD YESTERDAY..I THINK IT MAKES SENSE...

ALSO IF YOU LOOK @ THE LAST PART OF THE AVENGERS TEASER WITH THOR THROWING THE HAMMER HE IS IN THE WOODS...MAYBE HE AND IRONMAN HELP DETAIN HULK??

@CORNDOGBURGLAR..I AGREE THAT THE ULTIMATE AS A TEMPLATE WOULD BE KOOL

ROBBEATZZZ
ROBBEATZZZ - 7/27/2011, 7:32 AM
HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE THE LONGEST RUNNING MARVEL STUDIOS FILM..WELL OVER 2HRS
Hulkster2
Hulkster2 - 7/27/2011, 10:21 AM
I do hope they change hulk again if there is a sequel. I know they cant change him back but at least kind of mix the avengers hulk the TIH 2008 hulk
RaMan
RaMan - 7/27/2011, 11:01 AM
I JUST HOPE THAT IF IT IS THE CABIN SCENE AND BANNER TURNS INTO HULK, IT WOULD MAKE NO SENSE IF GEN. ROSS IS NOT AT THE SCENE WITH IRONMAN & SHIELD.


ALSO I HOPE BANNER'S EYES TURNS GREEN TOO.
RaMan
RaMan - 7/27/2011, 11:01 AM
I JUST HOPE THAT IF IT IS THE CABIN SCENE AND BANNER TURNS INTO HULK, IT WOULD MAKE NO SENSE IF GEN. ROSS IS NOT AT THE SCENE WITH IRONMAN & SHIELD.


ALSO I HOPE BANNER'S EYES TURNS GREEN TOO.
ROBBEATZZZ
ROBBEATZZZ - 7/27/2011, 11:46 AM
@Hulk2008..HEY SOMEONE POSTED A ARTICLE EARLIER ABOUT AGENT COULSON'S SMALL FILM TO FEATURE ON THORS DVD..

I GUESS THERE IS A SCENE WHERE HE SPEAKS O ANOTHER AGENT ABOUT SENDING A "CONSULTANT" TO SPEAK TO ROSS AND ANNOY HIM ENOUGH TO REFUSE THE AVENGER OFFER..(CONSULTANT=STARK?)

IT SEEMS SHIELD WANTS ROSS TO STAND DOWN ON THE HULK DEALINGS ALSO HAD OVER BLONSKI/ABOMINATION..

P.S IM SURE BANNERS EYES WILL TURN GREEN
superotherside
superotherside - 7/27/2011, 12:03 PM
good article!

and I agree this will probably happen! which gets me really excited for The Avengers
BooYah
BooYah - 7/27/2011, 12:19 PM
Do you guys think they will make The Incredible Hulk 2 with Mark Ruffalo instead of Norton? I really don't want them to reboot that's one of the reasons I hated the fact they couldn't reach a deal with Norton.
Paulley
Paulley - 7/27/2011, 1:20 PM
Plus there is the Agent Coulson short.. where they talk about sending Stark (The Consultant) in to annoy General Ross enough that he doesnt release Blonsky to SHIELD (why, i dont know)
STOOPUDR
STOOPUDR - 7/27/2011, 3:05 PM
I liked both of the Hulk movies for different reasons, and thought at the time that both Hulks were spot-on, even though the were drastically different. The characters change appearance in the comics all the time. The hulk in the comics has had hundreds of looks, as has Banner. Depending on who the artist was at the time. I like this new Hulk too. If they make a sequel I don't even care if they recast in that, as long as it works.

One of the things we may have to learn to accept as Marvel goes forward is, that characters may have to be recast from time to time. Like Don Cheadle said when he first appeared in IM2 "Yeah Tony, its me Jim Rhodes, deal with it." If we are not open to recasting these movies will not last. Captain America has been in comics for 70 years, I want at least 20 years of movies, so recast as necessary.

How many people have played James Bond? Does it matter? Everybody picks a favorite, but they are all still 007.
manymade1
manymade1 - 7/27/2011, 4:11 PM
Like CDB I think it'll be like the Ultimates with Banner working for S.H.I.E.L.D. at first, and then turning to the hulk in the middle causing rampage, then helping in the final battle.
manro
manro - 7/27/2011, 4:40 PM
In the cabin scene at the end of TIH,the cabin does NOT have a big antenna next to the house like the Avengers trailer. Yet I do agree that this might be Banner's cabin with Shield and later on Ironman and Thor teaming up in the woods to bring Hulk in.
jaysin420
jaysin420 - 7/27/2011, 6:11 PM
I really think TICH just got screwed by having to follow up Iron Man, which I think is the greatest CBM ever.
Burns2k
Burns2k - 7/28/2011, 5:28 AM
great article!!! i loved the cap and thor movies.
Hellsing
Hellsing - 7/28/2011, 1:12 PM
you might be on to something so nice find. Theres only two things I want see from this movie hulk vs thor and some great banter amongst the team and i'll be a happy costumer.
TheRaven20
TheRaven20 - 7/29/2011, 7:28 AM
Very good idea. I think you might be right, but I think that maybe the reason he smiles is because (some one suggested this awhile ago) that Loki could be controlling him.
mikenew
mikenew - 8/2/2011, 1:57 PM
Good Article.
NeoBaggins
NeoBaggins - 8/7/2011, 7:17 PM
"with a clip of said 2008 film featured in "Iron Man 2" when Nick Fury shows Tony Stark his file near the finale"

When did that happen?
StuartGreen01
StuartGreen01 - 8/9/2011, 8:47 PM
@NeoBaggins - When Nick Fury shows Tony Stark his file and says they'd like to use him as a consultant, you can see footage of the news reporter from "The Incredible Hulk" playing throughout the scene. The news reporter footage playing is of the mention of the Hulk's attack on Culver University's campus.
heroquest23
heroquest23 - 8/23/2011, 3:01 PM
I'm confused as to what significance the thunderstorm serves from TIH. the scene where Hulk is upset at the crack of thunder and throws a boulder towards the storm, if you look into the background you can see a sharp thunder bolt followed by Thor falling to earth. I've seen threads that try to piece together the timeline but this scene is never mentioned.
heroquest23
heroquest23 - 8/23/2011, 3:01 PM
So I guess my question is, do the Thor, IM2, and Hulk movies all take place at the same time?
FrenzyFreak
FrenzyFreak - 9/28/2011, 11:54 AM
That actually sounds correct. Based on all the other knowledge from the movie I have something to add to that. First, I think the reason banner smiles when his eyes turn green is because he's happy he can finally control it, which is something he mentioned he wanted at some point in the movie. So think this will be the introduction to the hulk. But I think this is where the avengers have their brief battle with the hulk because based on quick snippets I saw from the trailer, we see cap and Thor fighting a then unrevealed enemy in the woods which is where banners cabin is located.
Minstrik
Minstrik - 11/1/2011, 1:48 PM
Very sound reasoning STOOPUDR. I think we should all have that attitude towards these comic book-based movies. As I watched Captain America twice in a row recently, I found myself thinking "that's unrealistic" about certain points...but then I caught myself and remembered that that is the very reason I began and continued to read comic books. They are an escape from reality and allow for pretty much anything to happen. I love that these movies are so popular now and can't wait to see where they go in the future. As long as they bring the Infinity Gauntlet into it and do it the way it's supposed to be done. You know, like the real thing.
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