EDITORIAL: "They F*cked Up The Mandarin!" And Three Other Stupid Fan Complaints In 2013

EDITORIAL: "They F*cked Up The Mandarin!" And Three Other Stupid Fan Complaints In 2013

As a fanboy, I can relate to nitpicking when it comes to the movies based on the beloved source material. However, there are four complaints I've seen this summer which are just baffling! As well as Iron Man 3, I also take a look at Man of Steel, Star Trek Into Darkness and The Wolverine...

Editorial Opinion
By JoshWilding - Sep 09, 2013 11:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Iron Man

"They F*cked Up The Mandarin!"


No they didn’t. At best, The Mandarin has always been a B or C list villain, so what makes him so different to the numerous other villains that have been reimagined during their transition to the big screen? The reaction is easily explained; Marvel managed to fool fans and not everyone liked the fact that they had the wool pulled over their eyes. It was a damn clever twist that was extremely well received (with raucous laughter) in both the press screening I attended and the two regular showings afterwards. Did it make some people mad because of the way the character had been depicted in advertising? Marvel never lied to us, they just didn’t show us the full picture! At the end of the day, we’re talking about an extremely lame villain who simply did not fit into the Marvel Cinematic Universe’s take on Iron Man. He’s outdated and not even a recent update from Matt Fraction was able to make him even remotely relatable or interesting. Instead, The Mandarin became a useful way of telling a solid story in Iron Man 3 and it seems to me that the villain only developed a vocal fanbase AFTER the release of this movie...


"There Was Too Much Destruction In Man of Steel’s Final Battle!"


Seriously? The two most powerful beings on Earth go head to head in the middle of one of the biggest cities on the planet and you don’t think there’s going to be some major collateral damage? Superman has never had the opportunity to fully test out his powers, while Zod has absolutely no interest in the humans; he wants to kill them all and turn the Earth into Krypton. Widescale destruction was inevitable and with the lives of billions on the line, Superman’s #1 priority was stopping Zod once and for all. He had no time to protect the civilians on such a small scale when so many lives were at risk. And let’s face it; had this final battle taken place in the North Pole or out in the desert, the complaint would have been that there wasn’t anywhere near enough destruction!


"The Ending Of Star Trek Into Darkness Was Too Similar To Wrath Of Khan!"


Many viewed the way that Star Trek Into Darkness ended as being far too similar to Wrath of Khan. While there were some elements which were clearly taken straight from that movie, many seemed unable to tell the difference between paying homage and ripping something off. J.J. Abrams’ movie did the former, but with a twist and some added emotional depth and action sequences. The fact is, the majority of people who saw this movie won’t have seen Wrath of Khan. You could even argue that no one under the age of 30 (perhaps older) has even heard of the actor who played the villain in that so-called classic! To compare the two movies – has everyone forgotten that they’re set in the same universe, just with an altered timeline? – in this respect is more than a little ridiculous, especially after that powerhouse performance from Benedict Cumberbatch. Get over it Trekkies.


"The Wolverine Was Average At Best..."


I got sick of seeing this particular comment after posting my review of The Wolverine and then in subsequent articles about its success at the box office. Average? Really?! I went into this movie with unbelievably low expectations – I enjoyed James Mangold’s 3:10 To Yuma, but Knight & Day was excruciatingly bad – but this was a damn good Wolverine movie. No, it wasn’t all that faithful to the comic book version of the Japan saga, but it WAS true to the character. Incredible action sequences, cracking dialogue and one of the best after-credits scene ever featured in a Marvel movie, The Wolverine more than made up for X-Men Origins: Wolverine and both set the stage for X-Men: Days of Future Past and delivered the Wolverine movie we’d all been waiting for. Fox have made A LOT of mistakes, but hating on them this time was hugely unjustified.

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ThunderStorm
ThunderStorm - 9/9/2013, 11:04 AM
Awesome editorial I agree on all points.
agentawsume
agentawsume - 9/9/2013, 11:06 AM
I'm one of the few pwoplw that actually liked Man of Steel and Iron Man 3.
UTFReviews
UTFReviews - 9/9/2013, 11:06 AM
The Wolverine... My biggest complaint with that film is the ending.

SPOILERS


The silver samurai adamantium robot was completely unnecessary. Hell, they should have left the concept of "mutants" out of the entire flick
Reasonnnn
Reasonnnn - 9/9/2013, 11:08 AM
Iron Man 3 is right there behind The Avengers, Iron Man and Captain America.
Zordan
Zordan - 9/9/2013, 11:08 AM
well done
IIIAdamantiumIII
IIIAdamantiumIII - 9/9/2013, 11:08 AM
IM3 was HORSESHIT what a terrible film everyone I know and talk to about HATED it

Man of Steel was really good
Star Trek was surprisingly really good and I HATE JJ!
The Wolverine was the best of the x-men films to date
agentawsume
agentawsume - 9/9/2013, 11:09 AM
*people
Effusion
Effusion - 9/9/2013, 11:09 AM
This is a great read.
Demongod20
Demongod20 - 9/9/2013, 11:09 AM
FlashhGordon27
FlashhGordon27 - 9/9/2013, 11:10 AM
Iron Man 3 is my favourite Marvel film after Avengers. Great film.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 9/9/2013, 11:11 AM
Josh, I thought you hated Man of Steel. Or are you just praising it to get people off your back about you raping the homepage with your editorials?
MrReese
MrReese - 9/9/2013, 11:11 AM
Hmmmmm.Nope.Still hate IM3 so that means its complete n utter shat. ;)
scoobyjas
scoobyjas - 9/9/2013, 11:11 AM
I don't agree about the Mandarin. There were references to the Mandarin with the 10 rings organization and black just threw that out the window! And no, Aldrich Killian wasn't the Mandarin, he was Fing Fang Foom, he had a dragon tatoo and breathed fire. Maybe he was a B or C class villain, but let's not forget that Iron Man was too before the first movie came out! Imagine if they messed with Batman's or Superman's arch enemy!
AlanDT91
AlanDT91 - 9/9/2013, 11:12 AM
WHO GIVES A F*CK
lizero
lizero - 9/9/2013, 11:13 AM
The only one I made fuss about was Mandarin and after watching it a few more times ive come to accept it
soberchimera
soberchimera - 9/9/2013, 11:13 AM
But seriously, most of the buildings had been evacuated by the time Superman and Zod had their final battle. White and Co. were on the top floor of the Daily Planet and they managed to get out in time.
subzero1077
subzero1077 - 9/9/2013, 11:13 AM
They did [frick] up Mandarin!
MoS was amazing.
And yes, Wolverine was just average.
Ineedrevelation
Ineedrevelation - 9/9/2013, 11:15 AM
Honestly though can we be done with all these editorials!?!
ParisSun
ParisSun - 9/9/2013, 11:17 AM
What do you mean by "so called classic" when refering to Wrath of Khan. Khan was a classic character from the original series and ST:Wrath of Khan IS the best Star Trek movie ever created.

And it's a sad day when your commentary on society is that if you were not born before a particular piece of art was completed then you wouldn't be aware of it. Some of my favorite television and films were created decades before I was born (1971). Your reasoning is the same logic studio heads use when they are rebooting and remaking movies and television.
FirstAvenger
FirstAvenger - 9/9/2013, 11:18 AM
Really good points, good job Josh.
AvatarIII
AvatarIII - 9/9/2013, 11:19 AM
Yeah I loved all 4 movies to different degrees, I'm not going to say Into Darkness was better than the first Abrams Star Trek movie, or that IM3 was better than The Avengers, but they were all good movies.
TheTyrantVirus
TheTyrantVirus - 9/9/2013, 11:21 AM
90% people hating on IM3 are asshole bandwagon haters. When IM3 first came out there were only a few people who hated the Mandarin twist, and even some of those liked the rest of the movie.

Fast forward 4 months and over $1 billion later, and look how many people suddenly hate it. Get the hell outta here.
scoobyjas
scoobyjas - 9/9/2013, 11:21 AM
It would have nice to see Iron Man fight for something other than himself and the people around him
C17Swampy
C17Swampy - 9/9/2013, 11:22 AM
I thought Man of Steel did a good job of showing the horror that an evil Kryptonian could cause. I mean if an alien invasion did take place with advanced weaponry causalities are to be expected. Besides I would like to think humans are smart enough that if an alien threatened our very existence we would leave the cities (easy targets).
Highflyer
Highflyer - 9/9/2013, 11:22 AM
Even if the mandarin was b-list that doesn't make it right. Iron man was b-list until the movie came out. The twist wasn't clever at all. It was a middle finger to the fans in my opinion.
Humperdink
Humperdink - 9/9/2013, 11:25 AM
Great editorial, Josh.

I guess agreeing with three out of four of your points means I should give you a thumbs up.

The Wolverine wasn't bad...it was just stupid.

One of the worst things was the hardened adamantium is easily sliced by using red hot, annealed adamantium.

Metallurgy FTW!?

Uh...the super red hot adamantium would have been weaker not stronger.

Oh and Yashida's plan was convoluted and absurd. Made me wonder if he went senile or something.

Let's walk through it, shall we?



1) Lure Logan to Japan.

2) Try to convince Logan to give him immortality.

3) When he refuses, poison him, rendering him unconscious, plant a robot in his heart (how did the heart robot stop his powers again if it's in his bones?), but don't take the marrow when he's unconscious.

4) Fake your own death for no reason, none whatsoever, leaving your granddaughter in danger.

5) Let Logan wander Japan haplessly when you could have prevented it.

6) Wait for your granddaughter to fall in love with Logan and visa-versa.

7) Kidnap your granddaughter to lure Logan to remote village.

8) Reveal you've built a super giant unnecessary 10ft robotic samurai suit to...keep you alive and take wolverines powers?! You mean those machines and a bed weren't doing it for you?

What would happen if he wanted to steal another mutants powers? Would he build a 20ft Golden Sumo just to shoot little wires out? Maybe a 30ft Iron Geisha? Seems kind of unnecessary. Why?

6) Get ninja's to shoot Logan with lots and lots of arrows to keep him from entering, when it's established that Viper's poison works on him and the poison arrow should have been the 'opener'.

6) Take him inside the castle anyway...even though he was already trying to enter before you shot him up.

8) Do nothing while Logan is unconscious. AGAIN.

9) Let Viper taunt Logan for 20 minutes until Yukio shows up.

10) Pull out your super long heated sword and start cutting claws you claim you needed him to extend in order to get to that sweet sweet marrow.

Never mind that you could have done that with his fingers, feet, hands, arms, legs, anything really.


Just kind of silly.
Not bad...but silly.
captainbeta
captainbeta - 9/9/2013, 11:26 AM
Some people will always complain about their "favorite" character or movie being made or represented wrong. Each of these movies were entertaining. And that is what movies are made for, to entertain us.
Greengo
Greengo - 9/9/2013, 11:26 AM
I agree with everything EXCEPT the Mandarin part. That was p.c. getting out of control again.

The same kind of political correctness that wants to change the Washington Redskin's team name to something not "offensive."

IM3 had a major market in China, I understand it even had a special Chinese cut that wasn't available here in America, and I'm sure they had some influence on the decision to destroy the Mandarin character.
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