BOX OFFICE: JOHN CARTER Passes $30M Domestically; Takes $70M Internationally

BOX OFFICE: JOHN CARTER Passes $30M Domestically; Takes $70M Internationally

In a shock twist, John Carter has exceeded expectations, managing to surpass the 30M mark in the US and 70M overseas. However, it still has some way to go before regaining its $250M budget. Read on for details. [UPDATE]

By JoshWilding - Mar 11, 2012 10:03 AM EST
Filed Under: John Carter of Mars
Source: The Los Angeles Times



Despite a soft opening leading analysts to believe that John Carter would fail to reach the $30M mark in the US, the movie has managed to reach an estimated $30.6M in total for the weekend. Unfortunately, this is still considered by many to be a "flop" with last weekend's Dr. Seuss' The Lorax holding onto the top spot with an additional $39.1M; a grand total of $122 million in just 10 days.

One Wall Street analyst, Evercore's Alan Gould, recently estimated that Disney's film (based on Edgar Rice Burroughs' century old novels) will lose as much as $165 million. However, John Carter has had much better luck overseas, grossing $70.6M from 55 foreign countries. This obviously takes its current box office total to over $100M. However, with a budget of $250M, it's highly unlikely that a sequel will get a greenlight at this point.

Talking to The Los Angeles Times, Dave Hollis, Disney's executive vice president of distribution, had this to say about why the film has failed to live up to their expectations. "Every studio ultimately has their turn with a film like this -- despite how good it might be. I wish there was a simple silver bullet answer of why people didn’t come out in the kind of quantity we would have liked." Did you watch John Carter this weekend? If so, what did you think? You can find my review HERE, but be sure to sound off with your thoughts below.

UPDATE: Just a minor update for you here. Deadline's Nikki Finke has revealed her take on why John Carter underperformed and I thought you guys might be interested to read this perspective on the situation.

"To summarize: this flop is the result of a studio trying to indulge Pixar… Of an arrogant director who ignored everybody’s warnings that he was making a film too faithful to Edgar Rice Burroughs’s first novel in the Barsoom series "A Princess of Mars"… Of the failure of Dick Cook, and Rich Ross, and Bob Iger to rein in Stanton’s excessive ego or pull the plug on the movie’s bloated budget … Of really rotten marketing that failed to explain the significant or scope of the film’s Civil War-to-Mars story and character arcs and instead made the 3D movie look way as generic as its eventual title… Disagree all you want, but Hollywood is telling me that competent marketing could have drawn in women with the love story, or attracted younger males who weren’t fanboys of the source material. Instead the campaign was as rigid and confusing as the movie itself, not to mention that ’Before Star Wars, Before Avatar‘ tag line should have come at the start and not at the finish. But even more I think John Carter is a product of mogul wuss-ism as much as it is misplaced talent worship."


STARRING:

Taylor Kitsch as John Carter
Lynn Collins as Dejah Thoris
Willem Dafoe as Tars Tarkas
Thomas Haden Church as Tal Hajus
Dominic West as Sab Than
James Purefoy as Kantos Kan
Mark Strong as Matai Shang
Daryl Sabara as Edgar Rice Burroughs

RELEASE DATE: Out Now.


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Name
Name - 3/11/2012, 10:15 AM
Oh well. I'll add my £6 soon.
TheOverlord
TheOverlord - 3/11/2012, 10:25 AM
The only shock for me is t how many critics piled on th scandal bandwagon rather than giving this movie a proper review. It didn't fit completely into either the drama or sci-fi categories, so I can see why some people may not have liked it, but it was a well-made and entertaining film. I'm glad audiences came out for it, especially over seas. Biggest problem was Disney's abysmal marketing campaign. They really muffed it.
BarnaclePete
BarnaclePete - 3/11/2012, 10:25 AM
I think it just comes down to poor advertising. Hearing lots of good things about the movie, but I have zero desire to see this movie. Just going to wait until its out on blu ray.
rocky
rocky - 3/11/2012, 10:26 AM
Hopefully with decent legs it'll end close to 300mil worldwide. Yeah it seems like a long shot but movies of this scale usually end with close to 3x's their opening weekend. Good word of mouth may help despite the critics being split down the middle.

Then hopefully dvd and home video will put it over the top. I'm an eternal optimist, maybe a sequel isn't so far fetched
TheOverlord
TheOverlord - 3/11/2012, 10:26 AM
Bigger than estimated = good word of mouth propelled increased sales over the weekend.
gaulwave73
gaulwave73 - 3/11/2012, 10:27 AM
C'mon Josh, why are you hatin'?!!!
santoanderson
santoanderson - 3/11/2012, 10:28 AM
Dear Disney,

Your Marketing Department sucks.
darque13
darque13 - 3/11/2012, 10:39 AM
I really wanted this movie to do well. Im heading to see it tonight at 7:00 and i cant wait. It appears this film is getting good reviews, im suprised its doing bad at the box office. I dont think its so much of the style of the film. I think that its the lack of star power. Kitch is a talent actor and i had hoped after his role of Gambit in Wolverine he wouldve broke out. but sadly he didnt. Now if this had an A list actor like Damon, DiCaprio, Cruise or hell even Zac Efron it wld have probably doubled its revenue.
NerdyGeek
NerdyGeek - 3/11/2012, 10:39 AM
batlizard11: You're completely missing the point! There was definitely a lot of promotional material. But, there was no mention of either Andrew Stanton's previous works (Wall-E and Finding Nemo) or the fact that the movie is based on a story that is 100 years old. The trailers just made the film look like another generic sci-fi flick.
Rodimus9
Rodimus9 - 3/11/2012, 10:47 AM
The problem is, is that most news sources quote the same reviews. So 1 or 2 bad reviews gets quoted by a few dozen high circulation media sources and the movies f*cked. People need to do more searching nowadays to find the critic they most agree with and only listen to them. I personally could give a shit what anyone says about anything. It's that persons OPINION whether it's good or bad and I like to form my own opinion, not sheep around for others.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 3/11/2012, 10:49 AM
I don't think mentioning the fact that it's based on a 100 year old book would have made any difference at all. Bringing up the fact that it was directed by the guy who made Wall-E and Finding Nemo would have been a big help in generating interest though. However, regardless of whether you liked the movie or not, it's hard to imagine where exactly that $250M went (visual effects I guess). If Disney had kept a tighter reign on Stanton's spending, this would have been a decent enough opening. I also thinking keeping the "...Of Mars" suffix would have been a good idea.
95
95 - 3/11/2012, 10:50 AM
Just like Green Lantern, John Carter tried to be a Part One. Now it'll never get a Part Two. Filmmakers should stop doing that.

@TheIrishAvenger

Exactly. The promotional material sold me, but I could tell less-informed general audiences wouldn't be. What a shame, it was a really charming film.
NewNameWhoDis
NewNameWhoDis - 3/11/2012, 10:50 AM
Jesus, it's only 10:45 am pst on Sunday of the opening weekend. You know how many people wait until week 2 or 3 to see these kinds of movies to avoid the crowded theatre seats? 100 mill worldwide in 2 days seems just fine to me. By the time a sequel is even possible it will have made plenty of money after theatre run, DVD/Blu-Ray sales, merchandising, etc.

Seriously tho, society nowadays is in such a rush that they take the first two days of sales numbers and throw it under the bus. It's pathetic. Let it run it's coarse, then say if it flopped.
claybo4131
claybo4131 - 3/11/2012, 10:51 AM
Its very risky releasing a 250 million dollar budget film in March rather than the Summer or Thanksgiving/Christmas time. Only 3 movies in March have gotten over 70 million its opening weekend (Lorax last week, 300 in 2007, and Alice in Wonderland with over 100 million in 2010)

Looks like Hunger Games will be the big movie of March easily (And it has a 78 million dollar budget and will likely make that back its first week)
NerdyGeek
NerdyGeek - 3/11/2012, 10:52 AM
batlizard11: Of course those points would matter. Finding Nemo and Wall-E were huge money makers and I think if they mentioned that the story was 100 years old, it would ease of the Star Wars and Avatar comparisons. And the fact that the film has no big name stars is another reason for the bad box office
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 3/11/2012, 10:53 AM
Actually, although there are more stories to tell, the movie can stand as a one of I think. Don't want to spoil anything, but we kinda know all we need to at the end..even if we don;t ever see any more adventures.
2gold
2gold - 3/11/2012, 10:53 AM
It wasn't marketed weak, it was marketed poorly. The ads were usually "This is a man. CGI creature. CGI CGI CGI. Title". With an unestablished property with no awareness to the general public, they needed a trailer that built him up more and gave you a reason to want to go. They didn't do any of that.

You can campaign the living hell out of a movie, if you don't give people a reason to care they are not going to care. Disney seems under the illusion that the word DISNEY alone will sell a movie and it does for animation. For live action? It doesn't, hasn't in a long time.
headlopper
headlopper - 3/11/2012, 10:55 AM
For those who live in the real world, the weekend's not over yet.

Read my review:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/john_carter_of_mars/news/?a=56086
...and Ror's too! You'll get the facts, and then go see this film.
Enjoy yourself because it's a very entertaining , honest movie. You'll be happy you did!
claybo4131
claybo4131 - 3/11/2012, 10:55 AM
@2gold Disney hasnt sold live action in a LONG time? UUhh how about the BILLION dollar franchise known as Pirates of the Caribbean, or the acid trip-on-heroin blockbuster Alice in Wonderland (I know it was heavy CGI but still)
Bomblu
Bomblu - 3/11/2012, 10:57 AM
@Josh

Yes i agree with your point of taking away the part of the title "of Mars" made the film look generic. Wall-E and Finding Nemo would have definitively helped too.

But here's a question.

Are there John Carter Action Figures, based on the movie not other collectable stuff? I searched for some figures online and couldn't even find one single sign of the film having any other material such as toys, etc.

One could confuse it with a generic sci-fi movie, but if i was a kid that went into a toyshop and saw great white apes, tarzan-like people, 6-limbed aliens, etc i'd get psyched... I'm curious to see if i've missed this kind of "promotional material," if anyone knows about them?!
NerdyGeek
NerdyGeek - 3/11/2012, 10:59 AM
I would have titled the film John Carter and the Princess of Mars or just John Carter of Mars
claybo4131
claybo4131 - 3/11/2012, 10:59 AM
@bomblu No I was recently at the Disney Store, Puzzle Zoo & a Toys R Us last week and did not see ANY John Carter figures at all. Have seen Avengers ones at all 3 places though
shadow314
shadow314 - 3/11/2012, 11:07 AM
People blaming the marketing are just looking for excuses to why their beloved John Carter is gonna flop hard.

Yes the book came before star wars and avatar... but the movie didn't so it just looks like a generic sci fi movie with no stars and nothing really to hook you in.

There was no reason the budget for this movie should have been this high. There is nothing special about it at all. Disney took a huge swing and a miss with this.
Rubbers
Rubbers - 3/11/2012, 11:07 AM
They say you can't judge a book by it's cover. In this case, they were wrong. The title itself as well as an unknown lead, at least to the general public, is a tough sell regardless of budget spent or studio backing it. Talk about a major gamble/fail! Overall, this was a great movie and one I would like to see again (and that's very rare); it was at least better than or equal to 'Avatar'. Most people I've talked to about it didn't even know the movie was out or little about it. Dropping "of Mars" in it's title head and just going with 'John Carter', a name that does not have a reputation that preceeds it, was a major mistake, imo. I'm willing to bet that 70% of the movie going public never head of his name before. Sucks because I really liked this movie.
claybo4131
claybo4131 - 3/11/2012, 11:08 AM
@xcan28 US Box office is what matters the most cause that is where the most money comes from. Some movies do well outside of the US at the same time they don't IN the US (Tintin for example cause no one in the US cares about him). Plus where are the most movie theaters located? USA (though India & China might be closing in)
thedudeabides
thedudeabides - 3/11/2012, 11:08 AM
MINOR SPOILERS: I compare this to Prince of Persia and Tron Legacy where there was a very dedicated core audience for the film, but the general audience was given no incentive/ inspiration to see the film in any of the marketing material. I enjoyed the fan made trailer that Andrew Stanton approved explaining what was happening on the planet. I feel bad because those people will think this movie is copying off of sci-fi films when this is actually the original inspiration. They invested $250 million dollars into a film that is not a popular "current" book series, no real star power, and failed to mention the fact that the director previously did two of the most successful Pixar films of all time. I would bet $100 million in box office receipts that if Disney used a concept that this was the first live action film released from the director of Finding Nemo and Wall-E under the PIXAR banner, they would have gotten to the masses much easier. I saw in a last ditch effort they put in TV spots from the studio that brought you Pirates of The Carribean and Alice In Wonderland, however both revolved over star power and the works of their previous forms in media. I found the score to be terrible, and the marketing showed the natives to be a clumsy and stupid as the gungans. A general message of a man who has lost everything on the planet earth will travel to an unknown world where a battle that has been raging for a thousand years. They showed a lot but never explained any of it in the trailers, even something as simple as him saying our ships sail on the sea, not the sky would have allowed people to relate much more to the film. I would hope Disney pays whoever did the marketing for avatar cause it's nearly the same movie in every respect, but Disney just never realized what they had.
Equivocal
Equivocal - 3/11/2012, 11:15 AM
first time in my life that I went to a Drive In Theater, John Carter was my choice and I liked it !

batfan175
batfan175 - 3/11/2012, 11:27 AM
In order to be considered a success it has to make 500 million dollars in total (domestic + international), which it probably won't at this point.
NiteSoul69
NiteSoul69 - 3/11/2012, 11:27 AM
This was a great movie, me and all my friends
thoroughly enjoyed it, but the showing i went to was just a little bit past half full. Hopefully word of mouth on how good this movie is helps it.
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 3/11/2012, 11:35 AM
A SEQUEL WILL GET MADE....MAYBE.
headlopper
headlopper - 3/11/2012, 11:36 AM
@NiteSoul69 - Word of mouth is important.
Let's start right here. Well said BTW.:)
TheOverlord
TheOverlord - 3/11/2012, 11:46 AM
I'm a marketing professional and a pretty successful one. This was one or the worst marketing campaigns I've ever seen for a movie. It starts with the fact that the people in charge didn't have any understanding of, respect for or faith in the film. That was apparent from the moment they dropped "of Mars" from the title. It's really a shame.
HulkMan
HulkMan - 3/11/2012, 11:47 AM
It doesn't shock me it's making more than expected, it is a damn good movie. I forget, or maybe remembering wrong but I believe the title "John Carter Of Mars" comes on the screen after the final scene, when it's earned. Stanton did a great job IMO.
JorEl77
JorEl77 - 3/11/2012, 11:47 AM
Oh yeah,by the way,the weekend isn't even over yet.It's only 2:45 p.m. here on the east coast.The first showing was probably around 12:00 p.m. So how can anyone say "in total for the weekend",when it isn't even over yet? I haven't seen it yet,but probably will next weekend.I'd go through the week but our local theatre doesn't have matinee showings through the week until summer time,which is usually when I like to go so I don't have to deal with a bunch of loud mouth punk ass stupid teenagers.Maybe when people are done taking their little kids to see The Lorax,maybe they'll get babysitters and go see John Carter.
Rodimus9
Rodimus9 - 3/11/2012, 11:48 AM
My Big Fat Greek Wedding opening weekend barely cleared 3million and it went on to make 240million.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 3/11/2012, 11:54 AM
Everything Finke says there may well be true, she'd know better than most. But "confusing"? Emm, only if you're a bit light on the old grey matter love.
whatevillurks
whatevillurks - 3/11/2012, 11:59 AM
I never got why they cut all the nineteenth century stuff out of the trailers.
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