JUSTICE LEAGUE Star Ray Fisher Says Joss Whedon Wanted Cyborg To Be Drawn And Quartered By Steppenwolf

Justice League's Ray Fisher has talked more about his experience working with Joss Whedon, explaining that he had to fight the filmmaker over an ableist joke with Cyborg saying he couldn't feel his legs.

Zack Snyder's Justice League star Ray Fisher is finally breaking his silence on what happened during Joss Whedon's reshoots, and he recently spoke with Empire to shed even more light on his experiences with the filmmaker.

While the full interview will be published in the next issue, the magazine's website has shared some excerpts, with the actor addressing what he saw as a lack of transparency at the time. 

"Transparency would have gone a long way; if they had said to us, ‘Hey, we don’t like Zack’s movie, we want to shift gears completely and we need you guys to buckle down,’" Fisher says, reflecting on the troubled reshoots in 2017. "But they were trying to hold on to this narrative of doing it for Zack and maintaining his vision, all the while completely not doing that."

"Unfortunately, gaslighting occurred by asking for input but, ultimately, biting people’s heads off when you gave it," he said, alluding to the negative experience he had working with Whedon. 

Fisher added to that by making more damning allegations against The Avengers director, claiming they butted heads over an ableist joke about Victor being unable to feel his legs, while Whedon also wanted to shoot a scene with Cyborg being drawn and quartered by Steppenwolf. Ultimately, this became the scene with the villain simply tearing off the hero's leg. 

"Had I not been so welcomed in the initial process I might not have felt as comfortable speaking up about those circumstances," he explains. "But I had to try to rein those guys in. It was not a good look to essentially pull this Black man, who has already endured so much physical trauma, limb from limb."

Fisher has apparently watched the Snyder Cut of Justice League SEVEN times since it was released on HBO Max, and is understandably much happier with how Cyborg is portrayed there. 

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favourite new characters in Zack Snyder's Justice League!

10. Vulko


We don't agree with much Joss Whedon did in his 2017 cut of Justice League, but leaving Willem Dafoe's Vulko on the cutting room floor may not have been the worst idea in the world.

Aside from nagging Arthur Curry about taking his rightful place in Atlantis by wielding his mother's trident, there's not a lot the character brings to the Snyder Cut. Well, beyond being someone who has clearly spent years trying to get Aquaman to do what he believes to be the right thing. 

This Vulko just isn't overly likeable, and James Wan's take on him definitely resonated more with us. That was by no means a reinvention, though, and this version serves his purpose well.

9. Desaad


A completely new character added to the Snyder Cut of Justice League, Desaad clearly takes great delight in serving as the right-hand of Darkseid. Throughout the course of this movie, we see him revel in belittling Steppenwolf, and we can't help but hate him as a result.

That's not to say Steppenwolf is a sympathetic character, but Desaad is a typical, hateful lacky...and that's why he doesn't rank any higher than this! However, we were definitely left wanting more.

Clearly, he was going to be at Darkseid's side when the invasion of Earth began, and that likely means he'd have crossed paths with the League. He doesn't seem to be much of a fighter, but something tells us Snyder definitely had plans to do something more with him in those sequels.

8. Iris West


It was recently confirmed that Kiersey Clemons will reprise the role of Iris West in The Flash, and that's something we're very pleased about. The actress only makes a cameo appearance in the Snyder Cut of Justice League, but she makes a big impact with only a small amount of screentime. 

Yes, this is very much Barry Allen's sequence, but the chemistry between them is palpable. 

If Snyder's plan was to get us invested in the potential relationship Barry and Iris would one day have, it worked. We obviously know nothing about what Clemons' take on the character was once going to look like, or how that will differ in Andy Muschietti's take on The Flash. However, we certainly hope the first meeting remains canon because it was a heck of a way to kick things off.

7. Mera


Yes, we're counting Mera as a completely different character. Why? Well, the English accent, for starters!

That gives the Atlantean a new, regal persona, and she's definitely a little more ready for a fight than the one we saw in the theatrical cut of Justice League. That first meeting does play out mostly the same, but this Mera clearly has an attraction to Arthur which is teased when she's later on land.

However, the Knightmare scene is really where Heard comes into her own as the hero. Carrying Jerry Cans of water, she now wields Arthur's trident and wants to kill Darksied for what he did to Aquaman. It's a cool take on Mera, but not one that's likely to influence what we end up seeing in Aquaman 2.

6. Ryan Choi


Ryan Choi is an effective supporting character in Zack Snyder's Justice League, and we simply cannot figure out why he was left on the cutting room floor back in 2017 (it's not as if Warner Bros. had other big plans for the character at the time). Of course, many of his scenes are with Dr. Silas Stone.

That's another character whose role was almost completely rewritten by Whedon, so it likely explains why Choi was no longer part of proceedings. Regardless, Kai Zheng does a great job here. 

By the end of the movie, it's revealed that he's S.T.A.R. Labs' Director of Nanotechnology, so the stage was clearly being set for him to become The Atom in the Chinese-led spinoff Snyder has recently teased. It's a shame we'll never get to see that, especially as what we see here works so well. 

5. Elinore Stone


Cyborg's mother was pretty much a non-factor in 2017's Justice League, something that robbed Victor Stone of much of his backstory (and lessened the significance of the accident he was in). 

In the Snyder Cut, we see Elinore fighting to protect her son, and supporting him when he plays football. Silas, meanwhile, is too busy working, and the crash which killed her and gravely injures Victor happens on the way home from that game. It's a small yet meaningful role, and helps better explain why Cyborg feels the way he does towards his father before he sacrifices his life. 

It also leads to a much stronger, more effective ending; rather than goofing around with his dad and showing off his new look, Victor moves past his anger and grief to become a superhero. 

4. Martian Manhunter


Snyder has gone on record to say that he hoped to include the John Stewart version of Green Lantern in his cut of Justice League, but Warner Bros. said no, and that's why we have Martian Manhunter.

It's a shame in some ways that Stewart wasn't the one who showed up to talk to Bruce Wayne at the end of the movie, but we definitely enjoyed what we saw from this interpretation of J'onn J'onzz. He looks awesome, and Harry Lennix proved to be a fitting choice to bring the character to life here. 

His role was a minimal one, that's for sure, but what we saw was a lot of fun. This is another character with a tonne of potential moving forward, and while it seems unlikely that will happen, we'd sure like it to.

3. Darkseid


When Joss Whedon took charge of Justice League, he completely scrapped Darkseid's role and made Steppenwolf a one-and-done villain. Yes, the big bad was mentioned, but only in a throwaway manner. There was no reason to suspect he'd ever actually show up, and the only sequel teases we got were those which laid the groundwork for the Injustice Society to assemble.

Well, Darkseid gets plenty of memorable moments in the Snyder Cut. As well as a terrifying glimpse into the future (where he kills Aquaman and Wonder Woman), the stage is set for his invasion of Earth.

We know that leads to Superman falling under the influence of the Anti-Life Equation, and we can only hope that's now explored in some format moving forward. Ray Porter did an awesome job with the villain, that's for sure, and while he may not be a big name, he proved himself worthy of playing Darkseid.

2. Joker


Thanks to Warner Bros., much of Jared Leto's Joker performance in Suicide Squad ended up on the cutting room floor. What we saw wasn't to everyone's liking, but it was hard to judge it fairly. 

Well, the Oscar-winner is given a second chance in Zack Snyder's Justice League, and he makes the most of it. Despite being a post-apocalyptic version of the Clown Prince of Crime, this feels like a far more authentic take on the character. The meeting between Batman and Joker is awesome, and the way he taunts the Dark Knight over Robin's death is one of the DCEU's best moments.

While this scene probably didn't convert anyone who isn't sold on Leto's interpretation of the iconic villain, it's now hard not to hope the actor isn't given at least once more shot at playing him. 

1. Cyborg


Let's face it, the Cyborg we saw in 2017 is most definitely not the same one in 2021. Almost all of the actor's scenes were reshot by Whedon, so the Snyder Cut delivers a vastly different interpretation. 

This Victor Stone is grieving for his mother, and dealing with a whole lot of resentment towards his father. As the movie progresses, he manages to overcome that and embrace his new status quo as a superhero; that nicely sets the stage for where his story was supposed to go next under Snyder's watch.

Throw in a much more effective portrayal of Cyborg's powers, and everything we saw in the Snyder Cut of Justice League with this character was new, improved, and downright awesome. That's why he deserves the #1 spot, and while Ray Fisher is likely done with the hero, it will take an awful lot to top this. 

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