Marvel Studios Bosses Acknowledge That The MCU Has Been Going Through A "Rough Time"

Marvel Studios Bosses Acknowledge That The MCU Has Been Going Through A "Rough Time"

Marvel Studios bosses Kevin Feige and Louis D’Esposito have acknowledged that the Marvel Cinematic Universe has been going through a "rough time" in a new interview...

By MarkCassidy - May 07, 2024 07:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Studios

Earlier today, Disney CEO Bob Iger outlines plans to reduce Marvel Studios' film and TV output over the next few years. This is part of a "quality over quantity" approach, which was implemented after several recent MCU projects underperformed.

In fact, the most recent big-screen release, The Marvels, ended up becoming the lowest-grossing MCU movie of all time after taking in just $206 million worldwide at the end of its theatrical run.

While speaking to Empire, studio heads Kevin Feige and Louis D’Esposito acknowledged that the Marvel Cinematic Universe has been going through a "rough time," but they both believe that this year's Deadpool and Wolverine will mark a turning point for the franchise.

“If we just stayed on top, that would have been the worst thing that could have happened to us," said D'Esposito. "We took a little hit, we’re coming back strong. Maybe when you do too much, you dilute yourself a little bit. We’re not going to do that anymore. We learned our lesson. Maybe two to three films a year and one or two shows, as opposed to doing four films and four shows.”

As for Feige, he now sees the MCU as the "underdog."

“It’s nice to be able to rally behind one feature project this year. I’m much more comfortable being the underdog. I prefer being able to surprise, and exceed expectations. So it does seem like the last year, which has not been ideal, has set us up well for that.”

“Some of the lines that Ryan and his writers and Shawn worked on have taken on more of a meaning,” he added, referring to Wade Wilson declaring himself "Marvel Jesus" in the Deadpool and Wolverine trailer.

Director Shawn Levy also weighed in on Marvel Studios' problems.

“You’d have to live under a rock not to know that the last few Marvel movies have failed to ignite the world in the way that so many did,” he says. “We do come along at an interesting time. And we are decidedly something different. Whether it is of Messianic proportions, time will tell.”

In addition to Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman in the title roles, Deadpool and Wolverine will see Morena Baccarin (Vanessa), Leslie Uggams (Blind Al), Rob Delaney (Peter), Brianna Hildebrand (Negasonic Teenage Warhead) And Shioli Kutsuna (Yukio) return as their respective characters, and they'll be joined by franchise newcomers Emma Corrin (The Crown) and Matthew Macfadyen (Succession), who will play a TV agent and Charles Xavier's evil counterpart, Cassandra Nova.

A recent synopsis for the movie reads: "After facing some professional setbacks while going through a midlife crisis, Wade Wilson decides to officially retire Deadpool and becomes a used car salesman. But when his friends, family, and the whole world are at stake, Deadpool decides to bring his katanas out of retirement. He recruits an unwilling and wary Wolverine to not only fight for their survival, but ultimately, their legacy."

Shawn Levy directs Deadpool and Wolverine from a script by Ryan Reynolds, Rhett Reese, Paul Wernick, and Zeb Wells.

The movie is set to open in U.S. & Canadian theaters on July 26, and will be available in IMAX, RealD 3D, Dolby Cinema, 4DX, Cinemark XD and premium screens everywhere.

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Kurban
Kurban - 5/7/2024, 7:42 PM
If they think they deserve sympathy, they're wrong.
ShellHead
ShellHead - 5/7/2024, 7:45 PM
@Kurban - Jesus Christ, did the Marvels burn your house down or something lol
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 5/7/2024, 7:46 PM
@ShellHead - Guy probably deserves it.
Kurban
Kurban - 5/7/2024, 7:47 PM
@MCUKnight11 - "Pwease stop being mean to the multi billion dollar corporation!!!!"
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 5/7/2024, 7:59 PM
@Kurban -

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JonC
JonC - 5/7/2024, 8:05 PM
@Kurban - i don't see that they were asking for forgiveness from anybody. as an adult they recognized they could have done things better and weren't afraid to acknowledge their flaws.
Dotanuki
Dotanuki - 5/7/2024, 8:14 PM
@ShellHead - dude forgot he’s commenting on movies based on comic books.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 5/7/2024, 7:43 PM
Gee, I wonder what worked before that hasn't the past few years
OriginalGusto1
OriginalGusto1 - 5/7/2024, 7:44 PM
Rough Time. it sucks, @McGee on the toilet eating a bucket of chicken...tomato, tomatoe...It's awful.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 5/7/2024, 7:48 PM
@OriginalGusto1 - theres an image
OriginalGusto1
OriginalGusto1 - 5/7/2024, 10:19 PM
@Malatrova15 - You don't wanna see the bucket of pudding.
Deadinside
Deadinside - 5/8/2024, 1:55 PM
@OriginalGusto1 - Only if it's chocolate & strawberry swirl...!☮️😝
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 5/7/2024, 7:44 PM
"Maybe when you do too much, you dilute yourself a little bit. We’re not going to do that anymore. We learned our lesson. Maybe two to three films a year and one or two shows, as opposed to doing four films and four shows.”

Have you learned the lesson? Dude, it's not just the quantity of the films and shows, it's the quality.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 5/7/2024, 7:52 PM
@DarthOmega - one thing is linked to the other, it's impossible to maintain the quality when you start pumping countless projects in the same year, Feige wasn't able to supervise them as he used to do in the past
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 5/7/2024, 8:01 PM
@Urubrodi - If it's impossible then why did he continuously sign off on it? He saw the product before any of us did, and still decided to release it diluting the brand. He didn't mention the quality publicly because it would offend the people working on it. The closest he came was the supervision comment he made a while back about the Marvels and he got backlash for that. Either he knows the quality was bad and he won't admit it. Or he's learned nothing.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 5/7/2024, 8:03 PM
@DarthOmega - that's what they are saying... the increased quantity stretched their talent too thin.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 5/7/2024, 8:07 PM
@DarthOmega - try going back an rereading it.
JonC
JonC - 5/7/2024, 8:07 PM
@DarthOmega - did you miss that Iger has been saying that exact thing ever since he got back at disney?
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 5/7/2024, 8:11 PM
@Itwasme - That's what you and the other guy are saying. That's not what he said. What he said can also be interpreted the same way the people at Lucasfilm wanted it to be when they simply said they needed to slow down on the content instead of addressing the drop in quality. No one had an issue with the Mandalorian until the later season. People largely like Andor and Rebels. They didn't like Boba and Ahsoka The problem wasn't just the number of shows it was the quality.

Back to Marvel. Everyone is praising X-Men 97. How many D+ shows in are we? People even liked Loki season 2. The other shows they mostly didn't care for. Not because it was too many, but because they were lame. The talent is apparently not stretched too thin when it comes to X-Men 97 tho eh?
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 5/7/2024, 8:12 PM
@Itwasme - Show me the line where he addressed the quality.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 5/7/2024, 8:14 PM
@JonC - This article and my comment was about Feige mentioning quality and not quality. Other than Iger making an off the record comment about an attraction at a park, what has he said about the quality? I'm genuinely unaware
Dotanuki
Dotanuki - 5/7/2024, 8:27 PM
@DarthOmega - it was Chapek that was in charge during much of this time, not Iger.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 5/7/2024, 8:45 PM
@Itwasme @DarthOmega @DarthOmega - i dont think it was stretched too thin. There is no talent involved on most projects to begin with.
AnEye
AnEye - 5/7/2024, 8:51 PM
@vectorsigma - I think it's more like "all of the above" is the issue.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 5/7/2024, 9:01 PM
@Spoken - i am more on the belief that quantity wont be an issue if they were looking for deserving creatives. A lot of talent out there. They just need to screen them properly
AnEye
AnEye - 5/7/2024, 9:12 PM
@vectorsigma - To quote Warren Buffet

"You can't produce a baby in 1 month by getting nine women pregnant"

I think there is a multitude of reasons for the Marvel slump. I think I'm more inclined now to believe that it's biggest hurdle is just fatigue with the brand as a whole. Now all of it is trickling down to other shit like quantity vs quality, DEI, so on and so fourth.

To be honest it feels like everything was thrown against the wall during Phase 4 pre-production. It's like Disney felt that Marvel would do no wrong because their track record statistically speaks for itself. Their biggest leading man in Marvel (RDJ) died in Endgame. Big moment for moviegoers, fans, general audiences, and now it just feels all the more shallow as time went on. And that's what Marvel is now, just shallow in everything that they do.

As much as I want to see D&W, the only reason I'm watching is because of Wolverine and all the nostalgia it brings. Not because of the story, not because of excitement of a new Deadpool movie, not because it's Marvel, but because WOLVERINE.

All of it, is just shallow from Marvel now.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 5/7/2024, 9:31 PM
@DarthOmega - Exactly, going from 4 to 3 films a year is hardly a difference. And 2021 was the only year they've ever released 4 films anyway, even though No Way Home is a co-production with Sony.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 5/7/2024, 9:31 PM
@Spoken - as per the Buffet quote. I think most projects were given the usual amount of time to get done. Not all but I think enough to make the latest phases be "good" at least, with good creatives. Taika's case is different, i still think he is good, but it seems he didnt care anymore with TLAT.

And I agree that these recent projects and Marvel as a whole are shallow because of this creative bankruptcy.

Asnfor D&W, i also have my expectations managed. But I am more looking forward to the story because that's an indication of Marvel at least trying to course correct. If it's just another nostalgia bait then good luck to us fans.
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 5/7/2024, 9:41 PM
@vectorsigma - Feige has admitted that Quantity is the issue that has caused quality to fall last year
https://fandomwire.com/kevin-feige-fewer-mcu-time-between-show-release/

“I do think one of the powerful aspects of being at Marvel Studios is having these films and shows hit the zeitgeist. It is harder to hit the zeitgeist when there’s so much product out there — and so much ‘content,’ as they say, which is a word that I hate.”
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 5/7/2024, 10:35 PM
@eagc1995 - ive heard about this.

Him and Iger has been using quantity as a scapegoat, whereas it is their bad hires on creatives that's the problem imo.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 5/7/2024, 10:44 PM
@DarthOmega - It was also the choices they made. Eternals is a team that wasn't properly set up and didn't really fit, but they had all that Endgame money to throw around so sure, why not. Most of the TV is neither wanted nor needed, although people enjoyed it.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 5/7/2024, 10:49 PM
@DarthOmega - BINGO! The more advertising I see of DP&W, the more I fear they are trying to reimage the failed "Bros" movie with a MARVEL heroes incentive.

I hope I'm wrong, but MARVEL gave a phuck you to every og fan since IW & EG.
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