MCU Rumor Roundup: THOR 5's Leads, X-MEN's MCU Future, AVENGERS Vs. Annihilation, SPIDER-MAN 4, And More

MCU Rumor Roundup: THOR 5's Leads, X-MEN's MCU Future, AVENGERS Vs. Annihilation, SPIDER-MAN 4, And More

We have another must-see MCU rumour roundup for you today, with intel on Thor 5, Spider-Man 4, what we'll see from the X-Men in the coming years, the Avengers franchise's future, and a whole lot more...

By JoshWilding - Feb 08, 2025 12:02 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Studios
Source: The Cosmic Circus

It's proving to be a bit of a slow news weekend ahead of what we're hoping will be an impactful Super Bowl tomorrow, but thanks to The Cosmic Circus' Alex Perez, we have some big MCU rumours to delve into today. 

There's still a lot of uncertainty surrounding Spider-Man 4 and Perez now claims to be in the dark with regards to what Marvel Studios has planned for the movie. He previously seemed pretty confident about Venom and Knull making an appearance but only shares that he's not expecting The Punisher to show up, despite reports to the contrary. 

However, with Spider-Man 4 set for release between Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars, he doesn't believe it will be an Ant-Man and The Wasp-type situation with movie's the story playing out before the events of the former. Remember, Tom Holland is set to be one of Doomsday's leads.

As for how the events of Spider-Man: No Way Home factor into the battle with Doctor Doom, Perez points out, "They’ve always been linked. If I had to divide the blame as to who is responsible for the current incursion 616 is about to face, 75% of it goes to Strange, with 60% being the events of [No Way Home]."

Addressing Holland's MCU future, it's said another Spider-Man trilogy is in the works along with three other planned appearances. The next Avengers movies account for two of them. 

Over to the X-Men and Perez has heard Marvel Studios plans to "do new actors" when it comes to Earth-616's iteration of the mutant team. That means we're unlikely to see any familiar faces carry over from Earth-10005. 

He also backs up claims about the Russo Brothers guiding the Mutant Saga and, asked about the X-Men's role in the next Avengers movies, teases: "[It's the] same actors with new iterations that look like the X-Men ‘97 counterparts. And also new characters in the fray as well."

Another big reveal comes with the claim that after returning in Doomsday and Secret Wars, Thor's next movie will see him share the screen with the Thor Corps, Hercules, and Ares, with Valhalla a likely destination for some of the action.

Here are more the highlights from this latest Q&A:

  • Wong, America Chavez, and Nico Minoru will appear in Strange Academy
  • Work is slowly continuing on the Scarlet Witch movie
  • Ravonna Renslayer is still in The Void "along with some fun characters we have yet to meet"
  • Marvel Television's Netflix characters will likely return in future seasons of Daredevil: Born Again
  • Captain Britain could be coming to the MCU
  • There's no word on Echo's future

We've also saved one of the most exciting teases for last. Asked how we'll see The Avengers utilised moving forward, Perez reveals, "Avengers vs the Annihilation Wave for starters. And also against the Celestials. It’s about to get cosmic... It starts with the Nova series and keeps expanding from there."

As always, let us know your thoughts on these rumours in the comments section below. 

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bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/8/2025, 12:35 PM
It'd be so funny to make a fake persona, and trick the contributors into passing along fake rumors.. I mean it already happens, it'd be funny if I was the one dishing out the lies lol
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/8/2025, 1:18 PM
@bobevanz - I totally did that a few years back. I called myself 'Alex Perez' and started posting on a fake site called 'Cosmic Circus', lolololololol....
ssshhhhh! Don't tell nobody now.
TheJester187
TheJester187 - 2/8/2025, 12:36 PM
Ya’ll know nothing shut up!
DocSpock
DocSpock - 2/8/2025, 12:39 PM


Well, I read all the comics and have seen all the movies and TV shows.

I can predict all of this mostly already predicted stuff too!

Nostradamus is reborn.

TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 2/8/2025, 12:48 PM
When he says that "another Spider-Man trilogy is in the works" is he referring to another one outside of 4-6 or are we actually getting 7-9? 🥹 If so that frees up SO much room for storytelling without cramming everything into this next trilogy.

What exactly is going on with Spider-Man 4? 😮‍💨
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 2/8/2025, 1:06 PM
@TheRationalNerd - Aint nobody gonna be planning a 7 thru 9 yet when it depends how long the deal lasts with Sony and only tend to plan for around the next 5 years. As such should go without saying this would mean already looking at what to do in SM5 after Secret Wars with an intention to do a 6th if all goes well on all fronts.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/8/2025, 1:21 PM
@TheRationalNerd - Since this rumor has been posted a number of times already I think he means Spider-Man 34-36.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/8/2025, 12:51 PM
The MCU is rumored to continually be woke DEI communist socialist Marxist stupid subpar The Message spreading anti entertainment.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/8/2025, 1:23 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - It's definitely rumored to be continuing the legacy-verse. No more Tony Stark for anyone.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/8/2025, 1:23 PM
He was the anchor being and the MCU has been slowly dying without him.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 2/8/2025, 12:52 PM
Cavill would be an awesome Captain Britain.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/8/2025, 12:54 PM
@ModHaterSLADE -

They won't cast an ethnic English man.
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/8/2025, 12:54 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - He is the best choice and perfect casting, so Disney Marvel probably won't pick him.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/8/2025, 12:57 PM
@marvel72 -

"Anyone can be British!



Except ethnic British people."
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/8/2025, 1:26 PM
@ModHaterSLADE -

Hyperion!
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Or they could wait 5 years after Secret Wars and cast him as Superman.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 2/8/2025, 1:38 PM
@ObserverIO - Hyperion would be a great choice as well, would be an awesome rival/ friend for Thor just like the Hickman Avengers run.
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/8/2025, 12:53 PM
Avengers vs Annihilation Wave

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It should be

The Silver Surfer
Nova
Guardians Of The Galaxy
Fantastic Four
Captain Marvel (maybe)

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MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/8/2025, 12:56 PM
@marvel72 -

Norrin Radd or Silver Breasts?
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/8/2025, 1:11 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea -

Norrin Radd the one true Silver Surfer.

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ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/8/2025, 1:29 PM
@marvel72 - Mar-Vell.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 2/8/2025, 12:57 PM
Nico Minoru showing up in Strange Academy makes sense and would be cool imo!!.

I doubt since that actress is older now but I wonder if we get Lyrica Okano back who played her in The Runaways tv show or not (she even voiced her in the Midnight Suns video game)…

They could go with Grace Song (23) who is voicing her in Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man and has done live action work or most likely a new actress/take in her teens like Nico originally was.

Anyway we’ll see but either way, I’m down for her inclusion!!.

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Apophis71
Apophis71 - 2/8/2025, 1:07 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Last rumor was Strange Academy will be animated, if so actors age need not matter.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 2/8/2025, 1:09 PM
@Apophis71 - oh yeah , I forgot about that

They could use either Lyrica or Grace (likely the latter) or someone new entirely.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/8/2025, 1:13 PM
So X-Men is gonna "Do new actors" and also "It's the same actors"...??
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ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 2/8/2025, 1:22 PM
@ObserverIO - secret wars is the foxmen in x-men 97 costumes , then the new x-men get introduced to move forward with
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/8/2025, 1:32 PM
@ProfessorWhy - Gotcha, thanks.
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SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 2/8/2025, 1:25 PM
What I would love to see, though it likely won’t happen, is to have a through and through reset of the MCU after Secret Wars. Complete blank slate, but now with access to all the characters they didn’t have the first time around. Tell the full story in this next go around, without having to pull in multiversal characters to fill a roster.

So day 1, you’ve got all The Avengers, X-Men, Fantastic Four, Spider-Man, and everyone else at your disposal.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/8/2025, 1:36 PM
@SheepishOne - This is the greatest idea and the smart play.

So they'll probably choose to just continue with the post-Endgame universe where everyone's dead, retired and replaced with newbie-nobodies.
Huskers
Huskers - 2/8/2025, 1:33 PM
They need to stop making Thor movies. He’s the least interesting of the Avengers Trinity. Plus, they’ve really made him into a joke.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/8/2025, 1:38 PM
@Huskers - Thor reboot is desperately needed. Overhaul. New actor. Big dude, long hair, R-rated bloody action. Big Serious Viking epic.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/8/2025, 1:40 PM
Northman style
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Think Frazetta meets Kirby meets Esad Ribic.
SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 2/8/2025, 1:54 PM
@ObserverIO - never read a Thor comic, have you?
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/8/2025, 2:00 PM
@SummersEssex - Most of 'em yeah. You?
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/8/2025, 2:02 PM
@SummersEssex - You know, they're not at all like the Taika Waititi films. Try comparing Love and Thunder to the Jason Aaron comics it's based on (a lot of which are drawn by the aforementioned Esad Ribic).
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 2/8/2025, 2:32 PM
@ObserverIO - Yeh, most of them are not like the Taika films although I'd argue some are sillier than both like when he was a Frog, but can't think of any that are anything like The Northman.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/8/2025, 2:47 PM
@Apophis71 -
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ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/8/2025, 2:49 PM
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ObserverIO - 2/8/2025, 2:52 PM
@Apophis71 - Even the one where he turned into a frog was kinda dark. Funny, but darkly funny.

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