Tom Brevoort Explains The Difference Between Marvel and DC Comics

Tom Brevoort Explains The Difference Between Marvel and DC Comics

Tom Brevoort, Marvel Senior VP of Publishing speaks out on what separates Marvel and DC.

By MarkJulian - Jul 18, 2011 06:07 PM EST
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Source: FormSpring

On Mr. Brevoort's formspring account [which you can view here], he expounded upon the topic of DC trying to be like Marvel:

I don't think I really have the space to do this topic justice here. But to try to make a start of it: there's a fundamental difference in the way the Marvel Universe and the DC Universe are oriented. By its nature, the DCU has a more optimistic outlook on the world, and the Marvel U has a more pessimistic outlook. Now, that doesn't mean that bad things don't happen in the DCU and good things don't happen in the Marvel U. But it does mean that the DCU is a place where people look up in the sky and admire Superman, whereas people look up and shake their fists in anger at Spider-Man. But in a world of rampant cynicism, it's easy to scoff at an optimistic outlook, and harder to make "sexy", so DC seems to constantly try to make their world more pessimistic. But this clashes with the natures of most of their central characters--it's an ill fit in the world of the Justice League. So it feels artificial, in the same way that you can only have an optimistic Heroic Age in the Marvel Universe for so long before things need to start coming apart again in some ways. To put it in other terms, the DCU is Aaron Sorkin's "The West Wing"--it's not how government actually works, but it's the way you wish that it worked, the way you'd like it to be--idealistic, passionate, energetic, spirited. And so I wish that the DC hierarchy would spend more energy and effort embracing those qualities in their characters. Some of their key creators certainly do--Grant Morrison's ALL-STAR SUPERMAN is a very optimistic work, for example, and that's one of the reasons why it functions so well. And even something like DARK KNIGHT RETURNS, which is gritty as hell, is at its heart about a heroic ideal, a larger-than-life figure who rises up to champion the city in its time of need. But too often, DC seems to try to turn away from their core viewpoint, to make their characters darker or more dystopic or more downtrodden. And it just doesn't play in the long run.


Agree or disagree? Should a Marvel high executive even be making these type of statements?

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AlReg
AlReg - 7/18/2011, 6:35 PM
I think this is one of the only times Brevoort had honest beliefs of what DC is rather than sounding like his usual arrogant self.
Ethic
Ethic - 7/18/2011, 6:37 PM
Although the debate which is sure to follow will annoy me, I will say this guy was right, at least in terms of Superman.
It's inspiring because it's optimistic and idealistic, they're necessities.
Dynamo
Dynamo - 7/18/2011, 6:38 PM
EXACTLY! YES!
DC is about what our heroes could achieve.
Marvel is about our heroes shinning in the deepest adversities.

WHY THE [frick] DOESN'T DC UNDERSTAND THIS?!
vermillion
vermillion - 7/18/2011, 6:42 PM
I like this guy's opinion. :)
CaptainTall
CaptainTall - 7/18/2011, 6:47 PM
I clicked on this expressing rampant bashing of DC, but to be honest, I can't tell if he's just hatin' to be hatin', or if he's not hating and just trying to give his opinion.

He has some good points though.

I partially agree with a CBMer on here though. I think it's itbegins2005 or something like that. His comment said that Marvel's stories are more character driven, while DC's are more plot-driven.
cable23
cable23 - 7/18/2011, 6:47 PM
Fabiy war will commence in 3..2...1....
CaptainTall
CaptainTall - 7/18/2011, 6:47 PM
I clicked on this expecting*

I wish we could still edit.
cable23
cable23 - 7/18/2011, 6:48 PM
Damn no edit button
Ethic
Ethic - 7/18/2011, 6:49 PM
@TeddyKGB
Where's Thor from?
How much is Tony Stark worth?
cable23
cable23 - 7/18/2011, 6:49 PM
This guy actually makes solid points. I love both companies and I do hope that DC movies will achieve the sucess Marvel movies have in the past years.
dmm5
dmm5 - 7/18/2011, 6:52 PM
I remember someone saying DC characters are seen as Gods, where Marvel characters are more grounded and related. Love both, let's just all get along :)
08890
08890 - 7/18/2011, 6:52 PM
DC characters are practically new Jungian archetypes made flesh.
Dynamo
Dynamo - 7/18/2011, 6:54 PM
@TeddyKGB
DC humbles Superman using the Kents to teach him humanity.
And Tony's weapon's get used against him? Batman fight villains 10x stronger than himself all the time.

You're just elaborating on what Brevoort is saying.
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 7/18/2011, 6:54 PM
He makes some decent points.
valeriesghost
valeriesghost - 7/18/2011, 6:55 PM
i always thought that the DCU was made of Superheros, and marvels was made of Super Humans.
cable23
cable23 - 7/18/2011, 6:56 PM
@dmm5 In a way your right. Look at Batman, worlds greates detcetive, Superman is the worlds best superhero, Flash the fastest man alive, Green Lantern posses the most powerful weapon in the universe, Aquaman is the ruler of all seas, Green Arrow best archer in the world, and Wonderwoman is the princess of Amazon. These are characters people look up to and try to idolize. While Marvel has heros who react to situations the way normal people like us will. The best example is Peter Parker.
AlReg
AlReg - 7/18/2011, 6:57 PM
@itbegins2005

Let's not get crazy he does spend more time in an unprofessional manner bashing DC whenever he gets the chance.

Akercocke
Akercocke - 7/18/2011, 6:58 PM
I don't know if it's true, but it's interesting. For me the difference between them is that Marvel has lots of intriguing characters with great backgrounds and writers can develop lots of interesting scenarios with most of their characters. DC has great characters, just not many of them.
cable23
cable23 - 7/18/2011, 6:59 PM
@TeddyKGB Respectfully I will have to disagree with you. I do respect your opinon but the stories DC push out have a lot more depth and emotion. And dare I say well written. Not saying Marvel does not have great stories because they do. Its just I can remember more story arcs for DC rather than Marvel.
RexDartEskimoSpy
RexDartEskimoSpy - 7/18/2011, 6:59 PM
Tom Brevoort, undisputed King of the Nerds.
Blackvoid
Blackvoid - 7/18/2011, 7:00 PM
Ive grown up reading both marvel, and dc comics. Both companies offer amazing character's, and stories that ive enjoyed over many years. I couldnt imagine having just one or the other.

With that being said,
As time goes on, i find myself reading more DC than Marvel.

I find DC's books to be more optimistic and hopefull, and not dragged through the mud as much as Marvels.
Marvels books tend to put a spotlight on the darker side of the world.

I guess I enjoy the strong morality, and sense of justice, that DC offers.

It must be the Optimistic side of me :)
Ethic
Ethic - 7/18/2011, 7:02 PM
TeddyKGB
Well I think it's obvious which you prefer seeing as you sum up DC characters in smart little digs but then take equivalent details that are in Marvel and cast them in a positive light.
I could've said "Marvel have other dimensions and billionaires and aliens" in a negative fashion, but I wouldn't because it detracts from the enormity of the detail in the individual stories.
JULEZ13
JULEZ13 - 7/18/2011, 7:03 PM
I also opened this article expecting another Marvel employee to start bashing on DC just for the sake of bashing. But surprisingly I feel as though he was giving his honest opinion. I really didn't like when he said that DC is trying to be like Marvel but as I kept on reading I would have to agree.

DC is continuously trying to make their characters more gritty without taking their characteristics into account - the things that made them popular all those decades ago. I feel that DC has lost itself. They are trying to reinvent themselves the way Marvel has and since they don't know how they are just copying Marvel. Their rebooted "not a reboot" comics are a prime example of this.

I think DC needs to demote Geoff Johns and Jim Lee and call this guy up. He knows what he's talking about. He seems to grasp an understanding of the characters.

I wish Michael Turner was still alive, he would've been the perfect person to take over Jim Lee's job.
Dynamo
Dynamo - 7/18/2011, 7:04 PM
DC, these days, are too obsessed with EVENT TITLES! Just write a comic book series about character, like they did in the 80s. Gone are the days with John Byrnes Man of Steel or Green Lantern/Green Arrow.

No, instead we get Blackest Night, Brightest Night, Flashpoint, Final Crisis.

Superman has to deal with all of Krypton coming back, with every superhero known to man making a cameo.

STOP WITH THE [frick]ING CROSSOVERS! It's not special anymore if it keeps happening! An event is no longer important if this shit happens all the time.
Blackvoid
Blackvoid - 7/18/2011, 7:05 PM
@TeddyKGB have you read the "different color lanterns" series,

War of the green lanterns was a great read.

davidcub
davidcub - 7/18/2011, 7:05 PM
In this instance he is completely right! Take note DC! God this non-reboot is [frick]ed...Jeanette Kahn FTW!
drykillogic22
drykillogic22 - 7/18/2011, 7:06 PM
Marvels Great except for Thor..
Dc Sux Except for Batman..
Balance in the multiverse..lol
Blackvoid
Blackvoid - 7/18/2011, 7:06 PM
@Dynamo

I will agree with ya there, It would be great if they refocused on each character and their own books
Ethic
Ethic - 7/18/2011, 7:06 PM
"DC's big event added different color Lanterns"
Like Red Hulk and Grey Hulk etc?
It's pointless trying to show off your bias as if it's rational, seriously.
lanternstorm
lanternstorm - 7/18/2011, 7:06 PM
DC is for adults
Marvel is for kids.
cable23
cable23 - 7/18/2011, 7:07 PM
@itbegins2005 I think Superman stories can have great dramas of done right. Kal El is the last of his race and have these God like powers. He will never be able to truly live on this world and feel accepted.
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