VIDEO: Exploring the Mysterious Origins Of DC Hatred Among Some CBM Fans

Flame on!

Grace Randolph.....

just....

no.

She states opinions as facts.

She's got a few solid points, but I really don't think people are actual DC haters, they just don't understand/agree with the thinking process that goes into the movies. I also think she breezed over a few things that are very important about Marvel vs DC.

I'm a Batman fan. I love love LOVE the characters, and often find the games/cartoons more refreshing than the movies because of how much development and mythology is poured into them. Since 1989, there have been SEVEN Batman movies, with a team-up coming next year. Overexposed? Definitely. But just when I think I've had enough of Batman, I buy Arkham Origins (just this week) and am once again, enamored by his universe.

With Marvel, yes, I'm a fan of the movies as well, but the characters, as she mentioned, aren't as well-defined (although that is a blanket-statement). Since 2002, Marvel has been extremely prolific with their movies, with 'Hulk', 'Daredevil', and 'X2' all coming out in 2003. Some have been rather lackluster, some have been terrible, some have been amazing. The point, however, is that we're getting a lot of interpretations - you could say that Marvel (and Marvel Studios) has been throwing a lot of things at the wall to see if they'd stick.

I look at TASM 2, and I really don't care if it's good or bad. I started comics off with Spider-man, and I think despite having distanced myself from the character and his mythos so much, I'll always be a fan. But this April we will receive our FIFTH Spider-man movie in 12 years. Batman had 23 years to get SEVEN movies. A sixth Spider-man movie will be coming out in 2016.

I don't need to list all the movies Marvel has pushed out, and I certainly don't need to tell you which ones I think were good or bad. Whether they were successful interpretations or failures, they were still attempts.

So you look at all the Marvel/non-Marvel Studios films and you see things in fluid motion. Cyclical, free-flowing, with a strong current. For people outside of this site, it could be hard to keep up.

Then you look at DC, and you see that they have been struggling to get off the ground. They are quite static, quite conservative, and perhaps rightly so. The disadvantage, at any rate, is that they will be more under the microscope than Marvel.

Basically, in short - we care more about DC than Marvel, which is why we get upset when there's an interpretation we don't agree with.

I would so bang her mouth

I do agree with her points about Warner Bros 1) not understanding the relationship fans have with these characters and 2) not having any faith in the characters. Unless WB knows they will make money with these movies, they won't move forward with them. Look at the developmental hell that Wonder Woman or Flash have been in over the years. WB wants the success Marvel/Disney now have, but they're not willing to take the chances or have the fortitude to make it happen.

I like her, agree with some things she says disagree with other things but she makes sense in what she thinks and says (if that makes any sense to anyone).

I do have to say I'm always taken aback with her voice. It sounds like she's had extensive vocal coaching, putting the emphasis on every word in the sentence like a classic news presenter. Doesn't sound natural.

@maxi:
She's a woman with an opinion on comics on the internet. Plus she's a feminist. Of course she's had death threats. It's sad but I can virtually guarantee it.

I think WB are looking to make movies with comic book characters. Marvel are looking to turn comic books in to movies.

TDK is seen as a great movie, but Avengers is seen as a great Comic Book Movie. That's the difference. I think some fans want a great film that highlights their beloved characters, and some fans want their characters to be highlighted in a film.

I don't like Grace Randolph. I used to watch her stuff, but her voice got annoying and when you watch her interact with people in discussions it seems like she always has to be right. I switched over to AMC Movie Talk and I now love it!

She kind of had a good point, but in trying to stretch it into a five-minute segment she pretty much started making stuff up. What she says about DCs characters being more defined is ridiculous. Batman and Superman are constantly being reinvented (especially in the movies). The problem is that DC doesn't quite know how to TRANSLATE their characters to film. Arrow is a great step forward. They should embrace TV.

Jesus Christ. Almight, shut the hell up already.

Interesting...

Grace has it all wrong and kind of right to a certain degree. The DC hate exist because they take them selfs soo seriously while Marvel is more light hearted and thus easier to forgive.

Superman is not a boyscout, and he does not represent only America ... Grace needs a better understanding of the character. Doing the right thing and being completely selfless isn't the attitude of a boyscout(whatever that's suppose to mean)it's that of a true hero. I am sick and tired of people grabing the 50's Superman when he was just a part of the culture as the true and only Superman, how about you talk about the Golden age Superman, the one that took no oes shit.

Opinion as fact no. 1: If you didn't like MoS, there's something wrong with you.

I just re-watched it. Fact 2: That is a great [frick]ing Superman movie.

Fact 3: I know this, because I'm older than most of you and have been reading Superman comics for nearly 45 years, so I know the character better than almost anyone (and my superior intelligence makes me even more righter).

So if you didn't like it, it's not the movie's fault, or because it's bad. It's you. You're broken.

I love dc ..People just like to hate !! Well hate on cuz it brings publicity good or bad it makes money. Thank u !!!!!! Lol