Warren Ellis Speaks Out On How Comic Writers Get Selected To Write Corporate Books

Warren Ellis Speaks Out On How Comic Writers Get Selected To Write Corporate Books

"Writers who assumed they were writing the gig are being told that they never had the gig at all, that other writers have been run parallel to them. Even though they were put through multiple drafts. They didn’t know they were in competition."

By MarkJulian - Jul 27, 2011 06:07 AM EST
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The esteemed comic book writer, Warren Ellis recently took to his personal website to enlighten his readers about what it takes to become a comic book writer for publishing giants like Marvel and DC. Very interesting stuff below.

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Time was, back in the Nineties, comics editors who had a writing slot to fill on a mandated company owned comic would institute something of a foot race. They’d contact several writers at once and ask them to write detailed pitches for the book. Sometimes it paid, sometimes it didn’t.

I remember taking part in these on three occasions, back when I was a newish writer.

I remember being asked to pitch for a mooted BLACK PANTHER 2099 book at Marvel. The book actually never happened at all. I imagine none of the pitches were up to snuff, and they just killed the idea. I dimly remember mine being a sort of terrifying “Fear Of A Black Planet”/Huey P Newton thing, with Black Panther Cells run from Marvel’s fictional African country Wakanda destabilising corporate-run America. I think I used some of the stuff in there for my later DOOM 2099 sequence. I wasn’t happy at doing the foot race: I got paid, and my foot hadn’t been in the door that long, and I supposed this was just the way things were done. But I had a feeling that maybe it wasn’t the best way to do things.

I also took part in a run-off for a BLADE comics series. You didn’t always find out whom you were in competition with, but this time I’d discovered that I was running against my good friend Ian Edginton. It was awkward, but we had a teddibly English gentlemen’s-manners thing about the whole situation, and I was delighted for him when he got the book. Also slightly irritated, because I could have used the money, and as corporate jobs go it had some potential for fun and advancement. But I’d obviously rather the gig go to a friend if it had to go to anyone but me. I remember that Ian ran into problems on the book straight away. And a few months later the editor phoned me and asked me if I’d take over the book.

I was young, and arrogant, and a bit of a prick, and I said to him, “No. You should have got it right the first time.” Which was offensive on a number of levels, not least to poor Ian, who did not deserve the inference. But I didn’t get anywhere without having a degree of security in my own talent. And I was pissed off.

The third foot-race I did was for HELLBLAZER. My guts got in the way of my head. I wanted to write that book. I wanted a place to do British social fiction and work out a fusion of the British crime and mystery traditions, and, hell, I liked the idea of working on a property whose lineage included Alan Moore and Jamie Delano and Garth Ennis. They are all greater than I am, by miles, and the little ego demon in my gut said “you want this.”

They gave the book to Eddie Campbell. Which led to a comedy moment of me finishing up in a Glasgow urinal and Eddie, drunk off his arse, lurching into the room, seeing me, and staggering back saying “you’re not going to hit me, are you?” Eddie [frick]ing Campbell. I still recall, quite vividly, the first time I read Eddie’s work, and my entire conception of comics to that point changing in sixty seconds. Like I was going to complain about Eddie Campbell getting a gig over me.

A few months later, the editor phoned me and asked me if I’d take over the book.

And I said to him – and I considered that editor a good friend – “No. You should have got it right the first time.”

Because, well, see above. But also: what happened to the idea of thinking of a writer you like, and approaching that writer, and working things out with that writer? If you need to put a body on a corporate-owned book, do you really want to do that in such a way that breeds several kinds of resentment at once? Starting with the resentment born of having to knife-fight your peers for scraps in front of the landlord’s table?

So I said No, and I said No in a way that people would remember. And probably talk about, since this is comics. I don’t recall getting invited to any more foot races. But I’d relatively quickly worked to the point I’d wanted to get to, where I could generate my own material and survive on it. Of course, being in comics, I talked to people too, and it seemed like this method was going away. I wasn’t about to take credit for it, but I liked not having to shout at people anymore.

(It still happened in videogames. I listened to long spiels by at least two producers of major game franchises, asked them how many writers they were talking to, and then told them that when they wanted me to write for them, I’d take their calls. Because I am older and hopefully less arrogant but, let’s face it, still a bit of a prick.)

Things did change in the 2000 – 2010 space. (And when editors came to me with corporate gigs, they came because they wanted to talk to me.) But you know what? I’m hearing a lot lately about writers being put into foot races on gigs. And not only do they not know who else is running for the job – but many of them seem not to be told they’re in a foot race at all. Writers who assumed they were writing the gig are being told that they never had the gig at all, that other writers have been run parallel to them. Even though they were put through multiple drafts. They didn’t know they were in competition.

Not only are they fostering a creative condition where even Eddie [frick]ing Campbell can’t triumph, but they are finding new and interesting ways to piss off more people than they’re hiring. Now, comics has no shortage of resentful people – but do you really want to create exponentially more? People who can identify the exact individuals who [frick]ed them over, and wait?

Commercial comics can be enough of a snakepit even in relatively benign times. But bringing back a process both demeaning and creatively inferior, and just [frick]ing lying to people about it? I don’t like what that says about the next cycle in the field. I guess the Nineties really are coming back.





Warren Girard Ellis (born 16 February 1968) is an English author of comics, novels, and television, who is well-known for sociocultural commentary, both through his online presence and through his writing, which covers transhumanist themes. Ellis has written Generation X, X-Man, X-Force, Ultimate Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Ultimate Galactus, Thor, and Wolverine. He's been the recipient of 6 Eagle Awards.

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DarthDan
DarthDan - 7/27/2011, 7:01 AM
It's a shame that the supply of comic writers is so high which causes the type of cut-throat environment Ellis described..

cmmprime
cmmprime - 7/27/2011, 7:19 AM
Great read. Big fan of Ellis.

@DarthDan - I agree. You'd think with such a surplus of writers we'd be getting some better stories though. Tired of all my favorite comics following the same story line just for the sake of leading up too a hugely disappointing "event" every year.
Xfactorz
Xfactorz - 7/27/2011, 9:45 AM
Sounds to me like a comic writers union would be an easy fix to this situation...
MidKnight35
MidKnight35 - 7/27/2011, 10:02 AM
Unfortunately such as with any entertainment company, be it movies, tv, magazines, or comics, its about money. A great story can and will be overlooked if they feel it would not generate as much money as a huge crossover or a "death" of a character ect. Granted there has been some great stories over the years even ones that were in cross overs (Civil War was epic at the time) but, they seem to trash everything that was done afterwards by reverting the universes or bringing a character back ect. all for the sake of sales. I understand the business side of things that they need the money to keep going but c'mon, is it worth the proverbial middle finger to the fans?
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 7/27/2011, 2:23 PM
It's egotistic BS like this even at the most basic level. Imagine being contracted to write and illustrate a segment over a set number of pages. You complete it. Then the editor drops the page count and you have to cut your work to fit. You do this - and it ruins the flow of the narrative. Then they ask you to cut more. And now your work makes no sense. You can't even use it as an example of your published work to get a contract with other comic companies because it's now meaningless. Continuity is the most important thing in the comic medium. If a prospective editor looks at your work and it has a weak level of continuity - you will NOT get employed. Or imagine that you're trying to sell original, finished work to one comic - and they tell you that another comic has already published it, without telling you - printed from abysmal, photostat-quality samples that you sent to them years previously. If you make a stink about it - you're black-listed - no more work - ever. Or imagine sending off scores of pages of original art for a contracted job, then having to fight to get it returned - because the comic has gone belly-up and they have no budget to post it. Or how about holding back 100 pages of an original, completed graphic novel because you've been offered serialization - by two separate comic companies - who make you wait years - then drop their interest. And now your ideas are dated and left behind. I have a dozen more, similar stories - but I guess you get the picture. By the time I was offered work by a big company - I'd moved on to a different medium. I needed to feed my family and pay the bills. These people do not deserve the talent they exploit or the loyalty of its fanbase. They'd much rather whore the biggest selling characters to Hollywood for immediate profit.
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 7/27/2011, 2:26 PM
PS: The big company was Marvel - and I stand by every word.
JYCowboy
JYCowboy - 7/27/2011, 2:34 PM
What I see is the companys are cashing in on haveing double or triple the amount of stories churned out so they never run out from named writers. On a high sales book this wouldn't be the case but a lower profile title, its gold rush. Granted, continuety and events dictate use but its still an option for them to keep putting out books. I bet some of this practice is a safety net for a potential strike.
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