STAR WARS: George Lucas Almost Resurrected Obi-Wan Kenobi And Yoda For RETURN OF THE JEDI's Final Battle

STAR WARS: George Lucas Almost Resurrected Obi-Wan Kenobi And Yoda For RETURN OF THE JEDI's Final Battle

A few more details about George Lucas' early plans for Return of the Jedi have been revealed, including the fact he considered bringing Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda back as part of a major subplot. Check it out!

By JoshWilding - May 23, 2023 10:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: Gizmodo (via SFFGazette.com)

This year marks Return of the Jedi's 40th anniversary, and after the divisive sequel trilogy, it's nice to see Star Wars fans come together to celebrate one of these movies.

However, there's a reality where George Lucas delivered a conclusion to that original set of movies which would have definitely split opinions. We've already told you about an idea which saw Luke Skywalker turn to the Dark Side, but it wasn't the only alternate ending considered by the legendary Star Wars creator. 

According to Gizmodo (via SFFGazette.com), Lucas toyed with the idea of resurrecting both Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda, with them emerging from the "Netherworld" to join Luke during his battle with Darth Vader and The Emperor.

As well as offering their pupil advice, they'd have been shown taunting Palpatine before his inevitable defeat. 

While some fans might have welcomed these returns, it arguably diminishes their respective deaths and might have pulled perhaps too much of the focus from Luke's journey. Regardless, it appears the plan was to reveal Obi-Wan's Force Ghost had been using his Jedi powers to diminish the Emperor's powers, hence why he told Vader that he'd return more powerful than the Sith Lord could ever imagine. 

He'd have also reached a crossroads where not returning from the afterlife meant losing his very identity.

Still, Sir Alec Guinness was already reluctant about coming back for a third movie and wanted more to do, and there's a draft of the Return of the Jedi screenplay in which Obi-Wan took responsibility for everything that had gone wrong in the Galaxy during a lengthy monologue. He'd have also revealed Uncle Owen was in fact, his brother! 

If it all sounds a bit jumbled and messy, it's because these were only ideas which existed in very early drafts of the screenplay. While there's something to be said about giving Obi-Wan more to do, having him rise from the dead alongside Yoda would change pretty much everything we know about this franchise. 

The Rise of Skywalker almost saw Rey joined by an army of Force Ghosts who rose up to counter the Emperor, but Lucasfilm instead chose to go with voice cameos. As for Lucas, his final cut of Return of the Jedi obviously saw the still-dead Jedi Masters standing alongside the ghost of a redeemed Anakin Skywalker. 

What do you think about these scrapped subplots?

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Forthas
Forthas - 5/23/2023, 10:31 AM
Well if Palpatine can do it...why not?
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 5/23/2023, 10:33 AM
1.) this has been know for sometime

2.) I have been pushing this idea to be re introduced back into the sequels. Bring back Luke, Anakin, Obi-Wan.

It’s a legit idea that could resurrect character fans want to see.
Cap1
Cap1 - 5/23/2023, 10:41 AM
@IronGenesis - ‘fans’ that hate real stakes and love member berries. Awful idea
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 5/23/2023, 11:09 AM
@Cap1 - this franchise is becoming like comics and will be stuck in the same status quo because of those “fans”
Cap1
Cap1 - 5/23/2023, 11:23 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - yeah, it’s bizarre that their idea of the key to good storytelling is constantly revisiting the past and past characters, when really the key is..good storytelling. Luke Skywalker was just a cool name when the first movie came out. Very dumb and limited mindset
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 5/23/2023, 12:05 PM
@Cap1 - extremely. But who knows i guess it’s better to just wheelspin for nostalgia of 40 yr olds than help get new ones on board pushing things beyond the oafs
IronDean2099
IronDean2099 - 5/23/2023, 10:44 AM
Not much different to Rey hearing the voices of Jedi long passed so probably would have been fine.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 5/23/2023, 10:44 AM
there's a reality where George Lucas delivered a conclusion to that original set of movies which would have definitely split opinions

Yeah, that'd be this reality.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 5/23/2023, 11:10 AM
@Reeds2Much - some real revisionist history going on with Star Wars rn
FrankieDedo
FrankieDedo - 5/23/2023, 10:45 AM
Oh my god, this news is so old that the actual source from gizmodo is a 2013 article. This can't be real lol.
santoanderson
santoanderson - 5/23/2023, 11:00 AM
Every time I hear a story about George Lucas making the original trilogy in the 70’s and 80’s, I think “It’s a miracle those movies weren’t giant train wrecks. He was very fortunate to surround himself with some very smart people who were able to take his bad ideas and turn them into something good.”

I mean we all saw what happens when the guy surrounds himself with pandering yes-men who are afraid to tell him his ideas are bad.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 5/23/2023, 11:07 AM
When you go back 10 YEARS to find a story you can report today. (25 Sep 2013)

https://gizmodo.com/10-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-star-wars-ret-1383276948

OLDComicBookMovieNews.com

AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 5/23/2023, 11:27 AM
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/23/2023, 11:35 AM


So are we gonna get 300 more articles on every goofy idea someone had during the creative process of writing, producing, & directing movies?

If so, this is how this once great site will slowly fade into irrelevance & disinterest.

Say it ain't so Nate.




TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 5/23/2023, 2:37 PM
@DocSpock - I've been warning about this for months. I have seen the quality dropping which is why I have been correcting so many articles in the past.

The response of the fragile writers was to block me. And then too many other site loyalists complained to Nate, but that didn't deter me.
I just grew tired of the quality of the work on this site and stopped caring.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/23/2023, 2:49 PM
@TyrantBossMedia -

The site used to get a lot of articles from users & other sources. yes, some weren't so good, but many were. Matt from Canada was a great example. We would get occasional ones from Gusto & McGee that were great & usually hilarious.

Now we have Patel who is very good, and I hope he never leaves. Other than that, all we get is endless articles from Josh/ROR/their alts. ROR's articles are mostly good. Josh has some good reviews & some articles, but his stuff is increasing in volume while greatly decreasing in quality. I think ROR & Josh like their virtual monopoly, and it will be extremely hard for anyone else to get stuff in, and then they will stop trying because it's just too hard.

To sum up. I think Patel is very very good. I think most of ROR's articles are good. I like Josh's reviews, but think half of his articles are garbage.

If they don't get(allow) some new writers in, I think things will continue to go downhill.

TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 5/23/2023, 4:12 PM
@DocSpock - Nate has been trying to recruit me with the potential of being paid after a few articles, but a) I don't have time, b) I don't want to work for another site without getting paid, c) I think that Josh and Ror will take my ideas and say they had the articles "in the queue" already.

That's one of the biggest issues with this site getting new contributors.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/23/2023, 4:31 PM
@TyrantBossMedia -

They have been doing that for many years. This has run off numerous contributors and is how they built their virtual monopoly.

I wrote movie & restaurant reviews for over 30 years. I considered submitting reviews & articles to this site, but for a few reasons, I did not.

I didn't have the time to really jump hard into it, and I can't stand to do anything half way.
I didn't want to go down the drain beating my head against a wall like most of the good past contributors.
Now that I am retired, I am having so much fun doing a million other things, I don't want to devote the time that making an impact in this would take.

TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 5/23/2023, 5:07 PM
@DocSpock - I agree with you. I run my own business so I if I am going to write anything or put time toward anything I would rather put it toward my business or something that would benefit my own growth and personal wealth.
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 5/23/2023, 11:39 AM
Hey asshat, stop reporting things from decades ago as today's news.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/23/2023, 2:54 PM
@MaxPaint - Insulting isn't appropriate.
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 5/23/2023, 11:42 AM
"We've already told you about an idea which saw Luke Skywalker turn to the Dark Side"

And you didn't tell us anything, that idea has been known since the previous millenium, that's how old that "news" is.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/23/2023, 2:54 PM
I, too, like living in the year 2010.
GarthRanzz
GarthRanzz - 5/23/2023, 9:25 PM
Old news. Just like Leia not being Luke's sister and the Emperor surviving until episode 9 which actually did end up happening. And Yoda wasnt getting resurrected. His passage into the Nether was how Obi-Wan would return.
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