SHANG-CHI Star Simu Liu Addresses Possibility Of Showing Up In Destin Daniel Cretton's SPIDER-MAN 4

SHANG-CHI Star Simu Liu Addresses Possibility Of Showing Up In Destin Daniel Cretton's SPIDER-MAN 4

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings star Simu Liu has weighed in on the possibility of suiting up as the Master of the Martial Arts in Spider-Man 4 and shares his take on his sequel's delay...

By JoshWilding - Mar 04, 2025 06:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Shang-Chi

Despite being released when moviegoers were still wary about heading to theaters, Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings managed to gross an impressive $432.2 million in 2021. 

Over three years later, we're still waiting to see Shang-Chi in action again. There was a period when it looked like the character would be a central focus of the Multiverse Saga; he was reportedly being lined up to take centre stage in Shang-Chi and the Wreckage of Time (a movie we expected Marvel Studios to announce at 2022's San Diego Comic-Con) and Avengers: The Kang Dynasty

Plans changed and Shang-Chi's Ten Rings likely no longer have ties to Kang. Still, that's an easy "retcon" when they hail from Kakaranthara (the home of Fin Fang Foom) in the comics.

For the time being, work on the sequel appears to have completely stalled now filmmaker Destin Daniel Cretton has moved on to Spider-Man 4. That's not coming out until 2026, so it's highly unlikely Shang-Chi 2 gets here before 2028 or 2029...assuming the filmmaker still plans to direct. 

Simu Liu recently appeared on The Tonight Show and was asked if he could suit up again for Spider-Man 4. "Oh, I’m not even - I’m not even going near that one," the actor laughed. "I haven’t heard anything. I love people who love those movies, and I also love those movies."

It feels like Liu has grown steadily disillusioned with his place in the MCU since Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings was released. The movie overperformed financially and was a critical hit, and yet Shang-Chi hasn't even shown up for a cameo in the past three years.

During another recent interview with Screen Rant, Liu addressed concerns about his sequel being shelved now that Cretton (who was once in line to helm Avengers: The Kang Dynasty) has shifted focus to the web-slinger. 

"I don’t think anything’s been impacted," he said. "I think we’re all...I speak to Destin often and there’s nothing coming out of both of us but excitement to make this film."

It's unfortunate, but Marvel Studios' pivot away from Kang is likely why Shang-Chi is on ice. Both the Ten Rings and Ms. Marvel's bangles were expected to be linked to Kang, with Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania making use of ring imagery for the Conqueror's time travel technology in the Quantum Realm. 

With any luck, Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars can put the spotlight back on the master of the martial arts. Spider-Man 4 has been officially dated for July 31, 2026, with Cretton helming a script penned by Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers.

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Repian
Repian - 3/4/2025, 6:24 AM
Peter Parker's Mr Miyagi? He's going to teach her a flying kick to beat the bad guys? xD
Antitrollpatrol
Antitrollpatrol - 3/4/2025, 10:20 AM
@Repian - honestly I would love a shang-chi/Spidey team up movie where they fight me negative. You could easily tie the demon gang as enemies of the ten rings and bring in the whole feast storyline as a facade. Could be interesting and compelling.
RedFury
RedFury - 3/4/2025, 6:42 AM
They really do need to get Shang-Chi back on screen. That movie was a lot of fun, and a nice surprise. I like how genuine of a person they made him as a character too, which really plays well in a world of super heroes. They'd be smart to stick him in more projects.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/4/2025, 7:14 AM
@RedFury - agreed , still one of my favorite post EG projects…

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He was just a likable dude which is the thing you most need in a hero.
RedFury
RedFury - 3/4/2025, 7:33 AM
@TheVisionary25 - yeah exactly, he's really easy to route for.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 3/4/2025, 2:42 PM
@RedFury -
Totally a lost opportunity.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 3/4/2025, 6:44 AM
Hope he teaches Peter a new fighting style like the comics.
JacobsLadder
JacobsLadder - 3/4/2025, 7:05 AM
It's hard to remember Shang Chi even had a movie. It was that awful.
tylerzero
tylerzero - 3/4/2025, 7:32 AM
@JacobsLadder -

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I loved the first two acts when it was grounded. When they went full Marvel with the CGI monster crap...that's when I checked out.
BabyLasagna
BabyLasagna - 3/4/2025, 7:44 AM
@tylerzero - agree. The over the top battle with A MAGIC DRAGON was a bit too much.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/4/2025, 7:06 AM
Erm, there was also a lot of delays in releases and strikes and a three year gap between solo's isn't that long for post phase two MCU so I don't feel we can read too much into him not turning up again yet TBH. There was about three years between GotG and Antman to their second films and a lot longer for their third films, Dr Strange had to wait six years for his second film so the issue for all the new phase 4 & 5 characters is more down to the lack of crossover films with the decision to not have an Avengers one till Kang Dynasty/Doomsday along with the slow down on D+ content releases.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/4/2025, 7:15 AM
I hope a Shang Chi sequel is one of the first projects we get out of the MCU post SW…

Also I don’t see Shang Chi being in Spidey 4 but it would be cool to get this interaction on screen sometime in the future.

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BabyLasagna
BabyLasagna - 3/4/2025, 7:43 AM
Yes. Yes please.
I really liked Shang Chi, he deserves a sequel but I think that may never happen so...yeah.
mountainman
mountainman - 3/4/2025, 8:13 AM
Simu is a pleasnat enough guy, ok actor, but he’s another one who would be better off shutting up more in interviews. His boba tea rant made him look stupid and petty.

Oh and Shang Chi is like 22nd place on the MCU characters I want to see paired up with Spiderman list.
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 3/4/2025, 10:07 AM
@mountainman - This rant right here makes you look stupid and petty
mountainman
mountainman - 3/4/2025, 10:23 AM
@UncleHarm1 - OK Simu Liu’s burner account. Go and claim some race grievance elsewhere and maybe find a show or movie that you can actually act in for once.
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 3/4/2025, 1:47 PM
@mountainman - Nope, just pointing out a dummy when I see one. Have a good day ya whiny baby
mountainman
mountainman - 3/4/2025, 1:56 PM
@UncleHarm1 - So weird seeing a supposedly grown adult like you getting so butt hurt when someone calls out a celebrity for acting like an idiot.

If you aren’t Simu’s burner account you are just a weird simp. Dude doesn’t know you exist. Defending millionaires who play make believe for a living isn’t a good look.
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 3/4/2025, 3:11 PM
@mountainman - I don't care one micron about Simu Liu, I just would enjoy seeing you say that to his face lol. Something tells me the closest you've ever been to a fight is watching it on tv. But hey, you do you. Soggy brain.
mountainman
mountainman - 3/4/2025, 4:27 PM
@UncleHarm1 - Your assumptions are worth exactly as much as your opinion. Zero.

I’d be happy to tell him to his face if I ever met him. If he moved to violence over some words, well then he is a much weaker man than I ever imagined. Oh and I’d sue his ass off for assault.

It wouldn’t impact me one bit. Not sure why it impacts you so much.
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 3/4/2025, 7:32 PM
@mountainman - Your username is Mountain Man, implying masculinity, but your defense against hypothetical violence is litigation? You should change it to Karen.

And for the record telling someone to shut up in the comments section of a website they've never heard of is the weakest kind of man.

Go do something with the world if you want it changed. It's clear your handle is only a metaphor for how you've isolated yourself from reality.
mountainman
mountainman - 3/4/2025, 9:51 PM
@UncleHarm1 - Bro. Physical Assault is a crime. I’m not trying to fight some actor because his opinion about boba tea was stupid. I made a comment on a website. It could have just been that had you not gotten your panties so much in a bunch. It’s ok, Simu isn’t going to sleep with you.
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 3/4/2025, 11:30 PM
@mountainman - Ok Karen
mountainman
mountainman - 3/5/2025, 1:56 AM
@UncleHarm1 - OK Margaret.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 3/4/2025, 8:16 AM
I’m open for a cross over cameo from more characters as long as it makes sense. I really think it’d be great if they focused more on DareDevil and Punisher cameos in Spiderman. It’d be awesome to see Frank Castle get into a spattle with Spidey.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 3/4/2025, 8:26 AM
As long as we get more of this, it's money in the BANK!!

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Reginator
Reginator - 3/4/2025, 8:26 AM
i liked the movie but thought Shang Chi should look much closer to Bruce Lee. Shorter and thinner.
MadThanos
MadThanos - 3/4/2025, 8:38 AM
Nice if it's kung-fu, bad if it's magic dragons.
JstaKIDfrmBKLYN
JstaKIDfrmBKLYN - 3/4/2025, 9:01 AM
I would actually love this. If they can find a way to naturally include him in the story then I'm all for it. He can be the designated MCU character for the Sony Spider-Man movies (thought I imagine when making this deal, Sony had in mind a higher profile actor such as Downey, Cumberbatch, and Samuel L). And if he is in it, I really hope he teaches Peter the Way of the Spider martial arts style (even though it's Iron Fist in the comics).
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/4/2025, 10:01 AM
@JstaKIDfrmBKLYN - Shang Chi did train Peter too, and many others, and thought it WAS Shang Chi that created the Way of the Spider with him...

https://spiderman.fandom.com/wiki/Way_of_the_Spider

I'm not saying it didn't happen but in the comics don't recall him having training from Iron Fist even on the occasions they appeared together I read but then never read that much featuring Danny Rand and certainly not any Iron Fist comics (just teams and when he appeared in solo runs of others) so...
JstaKIDfrmBKLYN
JstaKIDfrmBKLYN - 3/4/2025, 11:34 AM
@Apophis71 - You're right, my mistake. I actually looked it up before I posted, but I guess I just got confused lol. Thank for clearing that up!
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 3/4/2025, 3:54 PM
@JstaKIDfrmBKLYN - yea i think him and tom would play off each other well. I say if they really are abandoning the street level stuff with him i say go balls to the wall with it and have him learn spider-fu. With rdj as doom i think he will corrupt peter and he will get the venom suit. That isnt what i want, that is what i think is gonna happen. If it were me, id have street level heroes team up. Spidey, dd, shang chi, jessica jones. Have luke cage looking after harlem. You have norman osborn and fisk team up. Black cat working for fisk.
Deadinside
Deadinside - 3/4/2025, 10:57 AM
People are mentioning the magic Dragon...well, here you go...

Magic Dragon Theatre https://g.co/kgs/tF9EV25
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/4/2025, 11:58 AM
@Deadinside - I can Imagine Dragons being in more stuff soon enough, magic ones or otherwise
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Puns aside, actualy doing Chineese mythical creatures as part of a Chineese characters first MCU film kinda seemed sensible to go with, there were aspects I took issue with but the concept of doing it I didn't and overall still enjoyed the time in that realm even if can understand why many would have prefered it stick to real world type Kung Fu fighting with his Dad instead. As is prior to that we'd already had probably the best, certainly in a short list for top anyway fight scenes in an MCU film
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CaptainDC
CaptainDC - 3/4/2025, 10:58 AM
It's impressive that Sang Chi came out in 2021 and we haven't seen him since... Marvel has fumbled this so badly. Hopeful that the upcoming Avengers movies will rewrite that
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 3/4/2025, 11:52 AM
I wouldn't mind a Shang-Chi and Mr. Negative coombo with Spidey
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 3/4/2025, 3:16 PM
Simu sucks and his Shang-Chi character isn't great.
Radders
Radders - 3/5/2025, 2:54 AM
Mid movie with a lead who had the charisma of a Bic pen, but we should have seen more of him by now

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