Filming Updates On DOCTOR STRANGE 3 And SHANG-CHI 2; STRANGE ACADEMY Said To Be "Officially" In The Works

Filming Updates On DOCTOR STRANGE 3 And SHANG-CHI 2; STRANGE ACADEMY Said To Be "Officially" In The Works

We have some big updates on when Doctor Strange 3 and Shang-Chi 2 will start shooting. It also sounds like Marvel Television's Strange Academy is moving forward! You can find more details right here...

By JoshWilding - Jan 16, 2025 08:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Doctor Strange

Marvel Studios has faced its fair share of challenges since the Multiverse Saga began. For starters, the studio has had to contend with a change of CEOs at Disney, a pandemic, and 2023's Hollywood strikes. 

It's no wonder then that these last couple of Phases have felt a tad disjointed. New characters have been introduced in movies and TV shows only to be M.I.A. ever since. Meanwhile, sequels and threequels which once seemed a given have yet to materialise. 

Today, insider Daniel Richtman brings word that neither Doctor Strange 3 nor Shang-Chi 2 will start shooting until 2026. 

It's unclear whether Destin Daniel Cretton plans to move straight from Spider-Man 4 to the Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings sequel, though it's certainly possible. As for the Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness follow-up, it's previously been reported that Sam Raimi will return to direct.

Both movies were once said to be crucial chapters in the Multiverse Saga, with Shang-Chi's Ten Rings expected to be tied to Kang the Conqueror (which is why we saw that ring-like imagery in Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania). As of now, we'd say both projects have likely been overhauled to be part of the Mutant Saga.

On a brighter note, it's said that the long-rumoured Strange Academy series has been officially greenlit by Marvel Studios. In the past, it's been reported that Benedict Wong's Sorcerer Supreme, Wong, is taking centre stage, likely training the next generation of sorcerers after the Scarlet Witch's devastating attack on Kamar-Taj. 

We haven't seen Strange since 2022, but in a recent interview looking back at his career, Benedict Cumberbatch confirmed he'll shoot Avengers: Doomsday this year.

"This is Doctor Strange," the British actor started. "He's a Marvel character and, well, I'll be really honest about it, the joy of playing him is immense. But also the joy of playing him means I can help create and platform stories and writing and less commercial fare into being. He's a gift in many, many ways in my life as a producer, as an actor."

"I love playing him. He's great fun. I'm very much looking forward to Avengers next year which is cooking up a storm," Cumberbatch teased.

As for Shang-Chi 2 - which was once said to be titled Shang-Chi and the Wreckage of Time - Simu Liu has said, "I will say this. It's definitely happening, I should probably lead with that. I think I speak for myself and Destin [Daniel Cretton], our returning director, when I say that we're so beyond excited to jump back in."

Stay tuned for updates as we have them.

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Chasekeane
Chasekeane - 1/16/2025, 8:09 AM
Rewatched Shang-Chi yesterday, and I gotta say its pretty fun, although wish it'd just gone harder on the earlier martial arts bits, and less flying around on a dragon. It'd be cool if it doubled down on the tournament style and went full on cobra Kai with a sequel.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/16/2025, 8:29 AM
@Chasekeane - that's what I'm hoping as well. I think it'd be fun if the next movie is about Ta-Lo being invited to participate in an Immortal Weapons tournament. Great place to (re-) introduce Iron Fist too
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/16/2025, 8:31 AM
@bkmeijer1 - yep , I agree.

They did say there were other cities if I’m not mistaken
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 1/16/2025, 8:39 AM
@Chasekeane - first half of the film screams Kung Fu classic, second half screams wanna be crouching tiger not hidden cgi.
xfan320
xfan320 - 1/16/2025, 9:24 AM
@Chasekeane - yeah, Shang-Chi versus Iron Fist and other MCU heavies would be an ideal sequel.

Keep it simple and have the 2 heroes unite by the end to stop the tournament host from enacting their evil plan.

Main inspirations for the film being, Big Trouble in Little China and Bloodsport.
Ikusa
Ikusa - 1/16/2025, 8:09 AM
[frick] Simu Liu. Let him go back to his Buzzfeed movies.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 1/16/2025, 8:13 AM
@Ikusa - had to look up who that was. but yeah i agree, i wouldnt mind a recast
Killuminatic
Killuminatic - 1/16/2025, 8:30 AM
@Ikusa - What’s he done to you?
DarthAlgar
DarthAlgar - 1/16/2025, 9:06 AM
@Killuminatic - He thought shaming a Boba Tea startup for "cultural appropriation" on a TV show would score him brownie points in his twisted Hollywood cult, but instead it just made him look like a giant prick. That's just one.
SATW42
SATW42 - 1/16/2025, 9:37 AM
@Killuminatic - he told two white people on Dragons Den, Canadian Shark Tank, that their Bobba product was kind of problematic and said when he set out to be an investor his goal was to help prop up smaller minority companies and if he invested in their product it would be the exact opposite of his goal.

It ultimately was a big nothing burger but a certain section of the internet got all hurt about it.
Kiba
Kiba - 1/16/2025, 10:33 AM
@SATW42 - No. He was deliberately a jerk and had no room to talk when he's a Chinese guy playing a Korean guy on a sitcom. You probably just got gratification out of the whole situation.
SATW42
SATW42 - 1/16/2025, 11:28 AM
@Kiba - The fact that basically just about no one even knows what the situation was, and I had to google it the last time someone here complained about him without any context, shows just how nothing this is.

No one cares. Even if he was over the top, no one gives a shit. No one cares, it doesn't matter. It's over. lol
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 1/16/2025, 8:11 AM
no more SHANG sidekick, she sucked the soul outta every scene she was in. Maybe give shang some chacter development this time around. have the rings begin to corrupt him or something.
DarthAlgar
DarthAlgar - 1/16/2025, 8:16 AM
@harryba11zack - I have yet to meet a single Awkwafina fan. Unfortunately there's 2 or 3 out there in the world.

I wonder if she was cast in the film because Asian people are slim pickings in Hollywood. Otherwise they would have gotten someone else that doesn't sound like a 50 year old chronic smoker.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 1/16/2025, 8:19 AM
@DarthAlgar - nails on a chalkboard everytime she opens her mouth, she got more dialogue then the shang himself
WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 1/16/2025, 8:12 AM
Let's hope that they actually do film in 2026. Heck, let's hope they are still making a Shang-Chi 2.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/16/2025, 8:21 AM
@WakandanQueen - I’m sure they will…

It’s just taken long for a myriad of reasons like everything else.
LSHF
LSHF - 1/16/2025, 8:13 AM
Good news. I'm looking forward to seeing Charlize.
JacobsLadder
JacobsLadder - 1/16/2025, 8:15 AM
Shang Chi 2? seriously? Flush another $250 million down the toilet.
SATW42
SATW42 - 1/16/2025, 9:41 AM
@JacobsLadder - Shang-Chi was actually successful. It was one of the first Disney movies to be released exclusively in theatres during the pandemic and made half a billion dollars when people weren't really going to theatres. It also only had a budget of $150 million, and was one of the lowest budgets for an MCU film.

Seriously, I don't know where some of you guys are coming from. Well I do but...
Ikusa
Ikusa - 1/16/2025, 10:43 AM
@SATW42 - You do seem like the kind of person who likes to instigate race and would willingly go look for race related discussions to argue about. You have that toxic vibe about you.
SATW42
SATW42 - 1/16/2025, 11:21 AM
@Ikusa - I simply said the movie was successful, what does race have anything to do with that?
SATW42
SATW42 - 1/16/2025, 11:23 AM
@Ikusa - OH! because I said "I don't know where some of you guys are coming from?" Yeah, I meant the anti-Marvel, anti-disney crowd who will hate any project they are involved in.

Interesting where you went though.
DanFlashesShirt
DanFlashesShirt - 1/16/2025, 8:24 AM
My take:

They should have delayed these avengers movies 2 years and focused on Doctor Strange 3, Shang-Chi 2, and a grounded (supposedly original plan) Spider-man 4, as well as a couple season 2s if these newly introduced characters.

Tying Shang Chi’s rings and Ms Marvel’s bangles into things made too much sense.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/16/2025, 8:30 AM
@DanFlashesShirt - perhaps

If the Shang Chi Rings and Ms Marvel bangles (which if I’m not mistaken I heard we found out the story behind in The Marvels) being involved in the wider multiverse saga were true then I think they really should have stuck with Kang but it is what it is now.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/16/2025, 8:33 AM
@DanFlashesShirt - if we're talking "should haves", I think they should've just done Avengers movies at the end of each phase.

I don't mind every character only having one major outing, but having them appear together would already create a lot more hype for them imo.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/16/2025, 8:50 AM
@bkmeijer1 - The lack of SOME form of crossover/teamup film at the end of every phase was the biggest missing piece even if it wasn't specificaly an Avengers film (although having Avengers in the title would always tend to help at the BO).
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/16/2025, 9:32 AM
@Apophis71 - Thunderbolts does seem to fill that role now, but it just feels less of a phase capper than Avengers would imo. And even then, it's a phase too late.

Ever since Endgame, Kang made perfect sense as a Phase 4 big bad after all the timetravelling done in Endgame. Phase 5 could've been West Coast Avengers, and 6 Secret Wars (as it is now).
DanFlashesShirt
DanFlashesShirt - 1/16/2025, 9:42 AM
@Apophis71 - @bkmeijer1

I agree 100%. I’ve long had the stance that they should have:

planned out phase 4 to culminate with Thunderbolts, would have had a nice lead-up too with Black Widow, FATWS, Antman & Wasp, Hawkeye, etc

Had phase 5 end with Midnight Sons, with lead-ups like DS: MoM, Moon Knight, Blade (lol), Werewolf by Night, Agatha, Ghost Rider, etc

Sprinkle a few multiverse stories throughout, then should have had phase 6 be the true multiverse phase with Strange 3, F4, The Marvels, Shang Chi 2.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/16/2025, 10:15 AM
@DanFlashesShirt - Thunderbolts at the end of phase four after the intro of the Black Widow characters start of that would have made sense esp if also having another films during that phase feature Bucky and same with Ghost (wasn't FatW and Hawkeye both phase four or have I got my release order wrong) thus ALL members bar Walker (and new character Sentry/Bob) having been in a film in that phase even if only supporting roles. Then could have done the reveal that they form part of the New Avengers with a Thunderbolt will return changing to New Avengers at the end/or with Sam in an end credit taking over the leader role of the Avengers.

That MAY have even been A plan at some point but COVID changed that, who knows.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/16/2025, 10:57 AM
@DanFlashesShirt - that would've been a good way to go around it as well. Wouldn't be surprised if Midnight Sons ends up being a show in Phase 7
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/16/2025, 8:26 AM
So after Secret Wars they're just gonna go back to what they were doing in The Multiverse Saga.

No revitalised, rebooted MCU with Iron Man and Cap, etc. Rebooted versions of the classic Avengers alongside rebooted versions of the X-Men and Fantastic Four. THAT would be hot as shit.

Nope just Young Avengers, legacy characters (sidekicks basically), Shang Chi, a third Doctor Strange with Cumberbatch, A 5th [frick]ing Thor with Hemsworth despite the fact that Ragnarok happened back in 2017, Renner's Hawkeye passing the torch to Kate Bishop repeatedly while never ever retiring, a million "not-sequels" to Wandavision... milking the cow until it shrivels up and dies.

Just get a new cow. A younger one, fat and full of life, full of milk. Mooing loudly because she's about to burst with all those new Iron Man movies in her titties (Tony Stark not Ironheart).
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/16/2025, 8:55 AM
@ObserverIO - If you want a full reboot of everything, nothing remaining, you bring everything to an end, take a break then start over. What you don't do is have a CoIE type story and throw everything out building up to that film when they fix things in it one way or another.

I am not saying nobody couldn't return with recasts, some can, but still needs to carry over some stuff from what came before else what is the point of doing it that way?
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/16/2025, 9:10 AM
@Apophis71 - The whole point of CoIE in the first place was to do a full reboot of DC, but they chickened out at the last minute and kept some things canon. The birth of the softboot. Wolfman and Perez thought it was a bad idea to softboot instead of hard reboot and DC continuity has been messy and convoluted ever since.

Doing a CoIE event is the perfect way to reboot, whether hard or soft. DC were too much of a mess to do so with The Flash movie, but Marvel is still successful enough to have everyone come to see Secret Wars and use it a PSA that they're rebooting and have everyone be on board and understand why. It also gives the franchise a sense of continuity. Because the new will be connected to the old via the crisis event that is Secret Wars.

A reboot is inevitable. It would be nice if they could facilitate it properly rather than wait until their franchise fails completely and is abandoned by everyone (*ahem*DC*cough*cough*).
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/16/2025, 9:15 AM
@Apophis71 - It's a storytelling tradition to reboot in this way. And this isn't exactly a new tradition either, long before Crisis the Hindus had their own version. The universe (and current mythologies) would end and there would be a long night of Brahma and then the universe would reboot with new mythologies. A new continuity born from the old continuity. A new canon.

Scientists even theorize that our universe will do the same. The Big Crunch will give way to a new Big Bang and the universe will be reborn.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/16/2025, 9:45 AM
@ObserverIO - Yes but always SOME bits stay canon and carry over even if most of it changes, you never have throw baby out with the bathwater so again you either end a story fully on a big conclusive win, take a few years break then start over or some aspects/characters remain not recast everyone and bring back everyone.

A mythology/science theory where A Universe ended before ours is not comparible to what always occurs with a film/TV franchise thus yes those exist but not relevant. To do otherwise, even if Secret Wars explained why, would make everything upto Secret Wars a completely seperate franchise to everything after and effectively mean they failed in Secret Wars if all the character versions we have gotten to know cease to exist which is NOT a good way to end a franchise and it is NEVER a given that a recast will work as well as the prior version.

I mean you can dis WB, CW or Disney doing things this way but the same was true in the comic versions too that some stuff carried over and continued. The point in the comics was it was getting messier with continuity/retcons thus the crisis event type things allowed them to solidify one new continuity and ditch anything messy that wasn't working slimming down normaly the number of characters being actively used but again what was working carried over and most central characters remained even whilst some originals would return rather than or alongside their legacy versions.

In regard to the MCU the main aim was primarily once they owned all bar Spiderman finaly to have a linear reason to get to a point where they all exist at the same time in the same universe and always have otherwise you have more and more why did we never know about mutants if Wolverine has been around for a century or more and/or doing a trigger that starts mutants emerging meaning technicaly they should all be teens and few of them at first.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/16/2025, 10:22 AM
@Apophis71 - The Crises at DC just made everything messier because the writers were uncertain as to what was still canon and what wasn't, so they would need another Crisis to try to clean things up again. But you can never truly clean things up without a clean reboot.

Also I don't think it would mean the heroes failed. If Doom saves reality by merging the multiverse into his own fascistic dystopia and the heroes then recreate reality to something more normal, then they haven't failed. They've restored the natural order. There will still be an Iron Man and a Captain America and a Wolverine, but they would be slightly different.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/16/2025, 10:27 AM
I'm not opposed to the reboot having some softer elements. Black Panther is obviously set up to be softbooted with T'Challa jr. That way you get to keep the whole cast and the fact that there was a T'Challa before him who was legendary, but you don't have to keep the details of his life story exactly the same as they were before. The events of Infinity War and Endgame don't need to have happened.

But that works because we get T'Challa back as a different actor. But you can't just do that for everyone, so without a much harder reboot we won't have a Tony Stark or Steve Rogers, etc. Instead we'll be stuck with the legacy characters. A diluted version of what Marvel could be.

Imagine if James Ginn decided to reboot DC with only legacy characters. With John Blake as Batman, Jon-El as Superman and all the Justice League either dead or retired. And they already assembled and the DCEU is still canon.

I can't see people getting as excited for that as they are about the new Superman and who is gonna be the next Batman or Wonder Woman, etc.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/16/2025, 10:29 AM
* James Gunn.

(James Gin is the one who makes all the wrong decisions)
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/16/2025, 10:32 AM
@ObserverIO - IF ALL are recast after then for the GA PoV all of them ceased to exist and then a new seperate franchise starts no matter what the story narrative is. You CAN have it end with a happy ever after with multiverse recreated with/without merging showing everyone thus survived with the existing actors but that would be an END not a transition. For a smooth transition the GA buys into some existing characters with the same actors NEED to remain as the core starting point for the merged/rebooted universe after. Who/how many carry over is another question but some would need to and retain memory of their life in the prior universe.
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