SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME Is Reportedly Unlikely To Secure A Release Date In China

SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME Is Reportedly Unlikely To Secure A Release Date In China

Spider-Man: No Way Home is all but guaranteed to be a box office hit, but the movie's chances of hitting $1 billion could be impacted by Sony Pictures being unable to secure a Chinese release date...

By JoshWilding - Dec 10, 2021 07:12 AM EST
Filed Under: No Way Home
Source: The Hollywood Reporter

While the North American and international box offices have certainly rebounded this year in the wake of the worst COVID-19 had to offer, China is pretty much back to normal these days. However, only 25 U.S. movies have been released in the country in 2021, something The Hollywood Reporter believes is a result of the increasing tensions between Beijing and Washington D.C.

Remember, there's a planned U.S. diplomatic boycott of the Beijing Winter Olympics, which is only expected to exacerbate the situation between the two countries. As for how that affects the entertainment industry, it goes without saying that the Middle Kingdom no longer has a vested interest in giving Hollywood a helping hand, especially with their own profitable slate of Chinese movies.

Right now, neither Venom: Let There Be Carnage nor Spider-Man: No Way Home have secured release dates in China, and "their chances of getting the green light are becoming slimmer by the day as the year winds down, analysts say." This is bad news for both movies; Venom earned $268 million in China, while Spider-Man: Far From Home webbed up just shy of $200 million. 

This could hurt the next Spider-Man movie's chances of cracking $1 billion, especially in this "pandemic era" of box office takings we find ourselves in. That's not going to close the door on a fourth chapter becoming a reality, of course, but it is a shame to see Hollywood releases shut out of China like this. 

In recent years, the Chinese box office has become crucial for major studios, but not a single Marvel Studios movie has managed to break into the country this year. That's certainly had an impact on their BO takings, and could spell an end to the Marvel Cinematic Universe's dominance there. 

Spider-Man: No Way Home arrives in U.S. on December 17 and in the UK on December 15.

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LSHF
LSHF - 12/10/2021, 7:46 AM
@NateBest -

Nate,

The issues still exist.

Links either don't work or have to be selected more than once (sometimes more than 20) in order to work. And sometimes when that doesn't work, I have to refresh the page and try again.

These links include all of the ones in the Comments section like the Edit, Like, Block, Reply, Post Reply and the Cancel links to work. Basically, any and all of the links associated with posting, editing, and replying to a comment.

Many times the "Post Reply" link just spins endingless having selecting it. And sometimes the links only somewhat work. Examples, a Post Reply link works but then it reloads the page where we have to select "Comments" again, OR it takes us to another page (I start on page 2 of the "Comments" and end up on page 3. Many times our replies are posted in another thread within the same Comments section.

The only link that seems to work the most consistently is the initial "Post Comment" link.

Others are having the same issues.

Please consider posting a comment asking everyone for their input. Many are complaining, but not to you and/or not giving you all of the information you need. I don't want to be the only doing this, as you need to see how many others are having the same issues to you can further realize just how big of a problem this is.

Anyone else reading this, please let Nate Best know what's happening, what device you're on and what browser you are using and it would be most helpful in him trying to determine the cause of these issues. This is information he has requested to others about needing.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 12/10/2021, 7:59 AM
@LSHF @NateBest - so far I've experienced all the same issues I've seen other reporting, so I'm not sure what I can add beside I'm having them too.

They do seem to be less frequent though (on Chrome atleast)
NateBest
NateBest - 12/10/2021, 10:00 AM
@LSHF - Thanks for following up. As far as posting a comment asking for feedback, there's no need. I've had plenty of feedback from multiple users, like @Waddles, both in the comments and emails.

I *know* it's still an issue and have been working on it most of this week. I know all of the symptoms. It's the cause that I'm unable to hunt down. As I've mentioned before, the bug throws ZERO errors, which makes it extremely difficult to fix.

The other thing to note is that it's actually *not* new. There have been reports of this behavior for a long time, but it was always rather hit or miss. For whatever reason, the recent changes (which had NOTHING to do with the comments) has exacerbated it.

NateBest
NateBest - 12/10/2021, 2:46 PM
@Waddles - Let's see if the update I just rolled up does the trick ;)
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 12/10/2021, 10:37 PM
@NateBest -
Sometimes the site glitches and it gives you the ability to edit someone else's comment. I have no idea why this isn't talked about more.
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 12/10/2021, 10:38 PM
@NateBest -
Case of point, the "Edit: Nearly happened again" in Marvel72's comment below was from me.
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 12/10/2021, 10:39 PM
Please fix, if you can.
NateBest
NateBest - 12/10/2021, 11:31 PM
@Darkknight2149 - Oh wow! That's an issue. I'll turn editing off for the time being until I have it sorted out.
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 12/10/2021, 11:45 PM
@NateBest -
The glitch doesn't happen every time you edit your own comment, but it does happen every now and again (seemingly at random). Editing right after you post seems to make it more likely to occur.
NateBest
NateBest - 12/11/2021, 12:10 AM
@Darkknight2149 - Good to know!
NateBest
NateBest - 12/15/2021, 5:45 PM
@Waddles, @Darkknight2149 - I think I may have finally nailed it down! Please let me know if things are back to acting properly... As far as I can tell, just from one person clicking around, I think I've got it back to behaving correctly.
marvel72
marvel72 - 12/10/2021, 7:47 AM
China doesn't need American movies, the top grossing movies are from China.

Edit: Nearly happened again
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 12/10/2021, 8:13 AM
@marvel72 - In fact they have the record for highest gross in a single territory. And right now what they are doing with their people is perpetuating war and hatred of enemies with propaganda films so why give them some light hearted superhero movie? That makes America look appealing?
Unites
Unites - 12/10/2021, 7:48 AM

Perfect time for Hollywood to stop caring about China and their censorship, so that they can finally embrace the Western culture, morals and values and show real representation of minorities - many people hope to see - on screen.

@NateBest -
Further proof. It happens when you try to edit your own comment. - Darkknight2149
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 12/10/2021, 7:50 AM
Marvel better call up John Cena and tell him to dust off his knee pads and “F9” another call to China.
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 12/10/2021, 7:51 AM
At this point f*ck those guys. They have their own movie industry, they'll have to make do with that.
Rokhorn
Rokhorn - 12/10/2021, 7:54 AM
Screw China, who cares. Hopefully we can get Chinese (negative) influence and censorship out of our entertainment, I am sick of China twisting Western entertainment to appease the communist party. Or have Hollywood thank them for filming in provinces where concentration camps and forced labor camps are. I'm over China (government not its people) and I don't care if a single movie is released there.
Blergh
Blergh - 12/10/2021, 8:03 AM
@Rokhorn - monetary wise I get why studios want to have their films released there, I also see the benefit of showing western films in China as a means to ease tensions between the Chinese public and the West in general. A showcase that "the West isn't half bad" so to speak.

But the CCP has turned more and more hostile recently and seemingly wants projects that depict the US as a more lawless and ruthless place to be released there (TSS and F9, both films that focus on goverment corruption and crime within the US).
Marvel films don't really show a negative side to the US
Blergh
Blergh - 12/10/2021, 8:00 AM
I know they're making good money due to the sheer mass of peple but it seems appropriate to give up on China. I know, an influx of american movies could ease the relationship between the Chinese public and the West. But that isn't something the CCP wants, the CCP prefers the West to be seen as savage and moronic.

But if the CCP has no intention to ease tensions themselves and feed into the ever growing disdain between the West and China there's nothing to be done on a studio's part.
Give up on China, stop leaning to them in storylines and castings.
Otherwise movies will be bullied into becoming Chinese propaganda themselves
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/10/2021, 8:03 AM
[frick] Xi.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 12/10/2021, 8:14 AM
CCP says: No shekels for you yankee pig dogs!
Moriakum
Moriakum - 12/10/2021, 8:15 AM
It's time to call John Cena. Or not. [frick] China.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 12/10/2021, 8:30 AM
Hmm this is gonna need three spideys and a bunch of surprises, it has to be the best one ever and the replay has to be high. Or else they won't get a billion, I think China is still low key mad lol oh well
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 12/10/2021, 8:31 AM
Good. Hollywood needs to stop kowtowing to china.
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 12/10/2021, 10:58 AM
@Waddles - Absolutely, and I am a fan of that. Franchises like Fast and Furious could take notes.
Liverpool4life
Liverpool4life - 12/10/2021, 8:43 AM
The Chinese economy is in bad shape due to the abundance of state owned enterprises, real estate market in shambles, the population of the over 60 demographic is one of the highest in the world. Xi Jinping is afraid he will be replaced in 2023. This is why he is circling the wagons and highlighting his grudges against Taiwan and the west (including the film industry). It’s the new norm.
NateInChina
NateInChina - 12/10/2021, 8:49 AM
Hi, New Yorker in China. This past week, No Way Home posters have gone up at tons of Theaters and malls in Hebei and Beijing. I asked a bunch of local cinemas (including an IMAX), they all said that it's a matter of 'when' and not if. Mainland China is most likely looking at an early January 2022 release date.
billnye69
billnye69 - 12/10/2021, 8:56 AM
Chinese Government to busy kidnapping Tennis players.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 12/10/2021, 8:56 AM
Let's not go crazy here...China loves Spiderman. It will get a release date in January probably
BB8ANG
BB8ANG - 12/10/2021, 11:29 AM
Using that thumbnail for this headline gave me a good chuckle. Screw China.
4thMaster
4thMaster - 12/10/2021, 1:25 PM
it's not unheard of for films to release in China a couple months later. I'd wait it out, it probably gets a release early next year like Matrix 4.

How is the US even "boycotting" the Olympics? lol they're still sending the teams, same as usual, to compete for the gold medals.
4thMaster
4thMaster - 12/10/2021, 1:28 PM
https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2021/12/09/team-usa-athlete-roster-winter-olympics-2022-beijing/
Not sending the diplomats, but still sending participants loses the whole point of a boycott.
Vanillain
Vanillain - 12/10/2021, 2:04 PM
Whether or not they get it only matters to Disney. We don't get much of a glimpse of China's pop culture here in the west but they have their own franchises and popular characters/IP. We don't see them cuz China either sucks donkey balls on soft power or just don't give a crap about exporting them since they have a 1.3B consumer population. Contrast this to Japan and Korea where their soft power is codified in their policies and is pushed by their respective governments (see Cool Japan and Korean Wave).
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