While fans were hoping for some good news about
Spider-Man's future at D23 this weekend, it instead became clear that the wall-crawler's time in the Marvel Cinematic Universe has ended.
Now, a number of actors and filmmakers who call the MCU home have weighed in on the matte,r and, for the most part, they're really not happy with how things have played out for the hero after the past few years he's spent sharing a world with the characters they play or have directed.
Elizabeth Olsen (Scarlet Witch), James Gunn, Anthony Mackie (The Falcon), Sebastian Stan (Bucky), Jon Favreau, and more all weigh in here, and their comments certainly make for interesting reading.
So, to check them out, all you guys have to do is click on the "View List" button down below!
Elizabeth Olsen
The Scarlet Witch hasn't shared the screen with Spider-Man all that much over the past few years, but actress Elizabeth Olsen is clearly disappointed that things have played out the way they have.
"It really is sad," she told
Variety while promoting
WandaVision at D23.
"First off, he’s the greatest Spider-Man to me. He actually has that youthful energy. He’s been incredible. It’s been really lucky that we’ve been able to work with him. I think it’s a big loss and it’s really too bad."
Needless to say, her remarks definitely echo what many fans have been saying as of late. The actress went on to joke that fans should consider starting a petition to make their feelings known.
James Gunn
As you can see below,
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 director James Gunn has no idea what's happening with the disagreement between Disney and Sony Pictures, but he has nothing but good things to say about both Holland and director Jon Watts.
He clearly believes that the studios are trying to figure things ou,t but, as of right now, that actually happening sadly seems highly unlikely.
James Gunn on the Spider-Man situation from r/marvelstudios
Anthony Mackie And Sebastian Stan
Anthony Mackie and Sebastian Stan will team up in
The Falcon and The Winter Soldier on Disney+, and given the comedic sensibilities of both actors, it probably won't surprise you that they decided to make light of the entire messy situation.
After pointing to his heart, Mackie said,
"We will always have little Tom right here." Stan then looked to the camera and joked,
"Tom, you are always on my mind."
These two often hit the convention circuit with Holland and have quite the rapport with the actor, so don't take what they say here too seriously as they probably pretty disappointed that they'll no longer be working together.
Jon Favreau
Jon Favreau was the director who helped kickstart the MCU with
Iron Man back in 2008, and he's since starred alongside Holland as Happy Hogan in both
Spider-Man: Homecoming and
Spider-Man: Far From Home. While he would clearly like to see Happy's romance with Aunt May continue to play out, Favreau remains hopeful that the two sides can come to an agreement of some sort.
"We’ve all read rumors, we’ve all read press releases, but you never know what’s going to happen," he says. "I’m holding out hope and being optimistic that this isn’t the final chapter of that story between those characters. I would love to see those characters continue to share the screen together."
"And I don’t just mean Happy and Aunt May, I mean Tom Holland, Spidey and the other heroes from the MCU."
Jeremy Renner
Everyone above was asked for their thoughts on the situation with Spider-Man, but
Avengers: Endgame star Jeremy Renner chose to take to Instagram almost immediately after the news broke to vent his frustrations with how things are playing out for the wall-crawler.
It was a ballsy move, but sadly not one that Disney and Sony Pictures have taken on board in the days that followed.
Continue reading below to check out some of the unanswered
questions we have about Spidey's big screen future!
How Will Marvel Studios Explain His Disappearance?
Marvel Studios can choose to just ignore Spider-Man's disappearance and pretend he never existed, but how do you explain the absence of a hero who was chosen to be the next Tony Stark by the man who sacrificed himself, in part, to bring Peter Parker back as his replacement?
The world learned the hero's identity at the end of
Far From Home, and Earth's Mightiest Heroes were bound to have something to say about the wall-crawler using Stark Industries technology to seemingly attack London and kill Mysterio. Are we supposed to believe that they're just going to let that slide? Is Spidey going to be sent to limbo like The Defenders and just...vanish?
Will Sony Forget Five Movies' Worth Of Character Development?
With this deal at an end, Marvel Studios won't be allowed to reference Spider-Man and Sony Pictures will be unable to talk about characters like Nick Fury and Iron Man, not to mention everything that happened in the Avengers movies.
In many ways, that's easy enough to gloss over (it's not like
Far From Home constantly referenced
Civil War and
Homecoming), but Spidey's arc has been tied to Tony Stark and The MCU, which means Sony will essentially have to start from scratch with a Peter who can't talk about everything he's been through up until this point.
His suits will vanish, as will his access to E.D.I.T.H. and any other Stark tech. Happy Hogan will no longer be around to help out, and if villains like Vulture and Mysterio do return, they're not going to be able to reference their own origin stories.
Is A Venom Crossover Now A Guarantee?
The answer to this question is more than likely "yes." We know Sony Pictures is keen to bring Spider-Man and Venom together, something that was unlikely when the wall-crawler was part of the MCU due to Eddie Brock really not fitting into that world (he could have been retconned in, but that seems unlikely given Feige's lack of involvement in the first movie).
Honestly, in order to escape the negative buzz surrounding them right now, Sony may very well rush straight into this in a bid to provide what they believe fans want. Now, there's no reason to think this wouldn't be good, but there are also a lot of ways a rushed crossover could go horribly wrong.
Will Spider-Man Get A New Costume?
Spider-Man has worn a number of costumes in the MCU, all of which have been designed by Marvel Studios' concept artists. Aside from his homemade suit, they've all been tied to other characters from Marvel's shared world (such as Tony Stark and Nick Fury).
As a result, Spidey's wardrobe is bound to receive a total overhaul as that red and black costume is ditched along with the Iron Spider suit he keeps in his closet. Sony has always done a pretty good job with the hero's costumes (aside from in
The Amazing Spider-Man), so this might not be something we really need to worry about.
Is Avi Arad About To Regain Control Of The Wall-Crawler?
This is...terrifying? Avi Arad shoehorned Venom into
Spider-Man 3 and, along with Matt Tolmach, he's responsible with pretty much everything that went wrong with
The Amazing Spider-Man franchise. It's no secret that he doesn't get on with Feige, so now he's out of the picture, don't be surprised if he worms his way back into the web-slinger's world.
Amy Pascal will reportedly remain on board as a producer, but if Arad makes his presence felt, Spidey's world is inevitably going to become a whole lot more convoluted and messier.
Will That Cliffhanger Be Addressed?
There's nothing stopping Sony from continuing the story that kicked off in Spidey's first two films, and that means the big cliffhanger ending with his identity being revealed to the world is likely to be touched on in some way, shape, or form. Now, it probably won't play out how Feige intended, but that doesn't mean Sony won't still come up with some cool ideas.
However, it's also possible that they'll choose to gloss over this and continue the character's story without referencing anything that came before, just like how
The Incredible Hulk ignored
Hulk.
So, Who Does Own Avengers Tower?
Well, Marvel Studios must be extremely relieved that they didn't go ahead and name Oscorp the new owners of Stark Tower before sorting out a deal which would extend Spidey's time in the MCU beyond
Far From Home. That would have left them in a tricky position, but they're now free to either leave that plot thread unaddressed or to have the Fantastic Four move in and rename it.
The next time we see Spider-Man swinging through the Big Apple, though, don't be surprised if you can't spot Avengers Tower as that building is going to end up disappearing from the city's iconic skyline. Beyond that, there won't really be too many changes to where Spidey calls home, but it will be interesting to see whether Sony continues using the same sets or returns to Los Angeles.
Will Jon Watts And Tom Holland Return?
Tom Holland is almost certainly contracted for more
Spider-Man movies, but, for all we know, he may have a clause where he can get out of that. The actor loves the character, though, and he's always worked for Sony so there's nothing to say that will change - assuming he's happy with the script.
As for Jon Watts, he's not currently signed up for the next
Spider-Man movie and if Marvel Studios offers him another project set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Sony could end up looking elsewhere for a filmmaker to take the helm of the franchise. After all, he may not want to work on the character without Feige's overseeing the creative side of things.
Does This Mean Spider-Man Is About To Enter The Spider-Verse?
We know that Sony has a long list of
Spider-Man spinoff movies in the works, including films featuring characters like Black Cat and Morbius, the Living Vampire. Now, Peter Parker is free to swing into any and all of those, something which means we won't have to endure any more awkward Spider-Man-less adventures like
Venom.
One of the spinoffs we know is being worked on revolves around Kraven the Hunter and reportedly gives Spidey a key role, so don't be shocked if that now becomes the
Far From Home sequel...
Can A Deal Still Be Reached?
We never thought we'd see Spider-Man in the MCU, so it's entirely feasible that a deal will be reached despite how bleak things look right now. We know that Sony offered Disney some alternatives, and while they flat out refused to accept those terms, the negative response may very well lead to both parties reconsidering their current stance.
In the eyes of many fans, Marvel Studios can do no wrong, so the last thing they want is to be tarnished with being responsible for Spider-Man leaving the MCU. Sony, meanwhile, will not want to release a movie which is surrounded by negative buzz because the wall-crawler can no longer interact with The Avengers or even appear in any of the team's upcoming adventures.
Is This All Just A Negotiating Tactic?
It may not have started that way, but it could now become one for both Sony and Disney.
Let's assume that Disney leaked the news to try to force Sony to give them what they want. Well, the latter has done a pretty good job of making it look like Disney are the ones to blame, so that might now force them to relent and accept something below 50%.
It's hard to say, but, as of right now, no one is going to come out of this situation looking good.
Who Will Replace Spider-Man In The MCU?
Spider-Man brought something very different to the Marvel Cinematic Universe as we got to see a superhero in high school dealing with problems vastly different to those faced by characters like Captain America and Iron Man.
Peter's absence will leave a void in the MCU that doesn't necessarily have to be filled, but does close the door on many of the stories Marvel Studios could have otherwise told. There are a lot of possibilities for who could take Spidey's place, including the Sam Alexander version of Nova, Ms. Marvel, or pretty much any member of the Young Avengers.
Will that be as satisfying as seeing Spidey in action, though? Nope.
What Will Happen To The Rest Of The Cast?
The cast of the first two
Spider-Man movies presumably signed deals with Sony Pictures rather than Marvel Studios, but this change behind the scenes could have a significant impact on those contracts and the likes of Marisa Tomei and Zendaya may have the option to not reprise their roles.
On the other hand, it's equally as likely that they're locked in to whatever comes next, and they'll be forced to star in those next two movies whether they like it or not.
What Happens To Dark Avengers?
Well, it's probably not happening for starters! It's no secret that Marvel Studios has a number of rough drafts lying around their offices, and based on countless reports,
Dark Avengers is among them. Now, a movie like that doesn't need to have Norman Osborn in it ,but it would certainly help and if this is something Feige had planned, you have to believe it's now been scrapped.
There was no mention of the wall-crawler at Comic-Con, but seeds for the Dark Avengers could have been planted in at least some of the Phase 4 movies and TV shows, while common sense says that another
Spider-Man movie would have been added to the slate for a 2021 release.
We may never know what might have been, but Spider-Man's disappearance will send ripples through the MCU.
Can Spider-Man Survive Without The MCU?
Sony definitely ran the wall-crawler into the ground before partnering with Marvel Studios, but
Venom was a box office hit and
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - made independently of Marvel - won an Oscar. While it's easy to imagine scenarios where the next
Spider-Man movie is as messy as
The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Sony could easily continue this story without any references to the MCU.
The MCU will certainly survive without Spidey, and there's no reason to think that Spidey can't survive without the MCU. Things are definitely going to be different, but the character isn't doomed...yet.