5 Things Common In Every Spider-Man Movie.

5 Things Common In Every Spider-Man Movie.

The 5 things to look forward to(or not) in your kid friendly neighborhood Spiderman film.

Editorial Opinion
By rohan - Jun 27, 2014 02:06 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man
  • Save the girl!

                       

This one didn't turn out too well

At this point, I just hope Peter stops dating altogether, because I don’t think I can sit through another film that involves the same shtick. It just seems like the writers couldn’t be bothered to give the villains  or the leading ladies any other motivation (besides Doctor Octopus, to be fair. Spiderman 2 remains the golden standard for the franchise), so they keep recycling the script from Raimi’s first film.

You’d think someone would suspect why the same girls keep finding themselves in these situations constantly.

To recap, MJ was practically thrown from the sky by Green Goblin, captured by Doc Ock, and then left in a web next to a construction site by Venom and Sandman. Is that seriously not enough to raise a few questions about the guy she’s dating/ been dating? Let not even get started on Gwen’s luck.

At 5 movies in, spidey has an 80% success rate, which let’s be honest, is pretty good. Here’s hoping the planned Sinister Six movie doesn’t come down to the team having to save their girlfriends from each other.


 
  • They might as well be produced by Marvel.

       

                            
No one seems interested in exposing Spiderman’s identity. Being the only Major Marvel superhero out there actually battling a dual identity crisis, one would think someone may just want to expose him. Be it Norman, Harry, Harry’s butler (what was up with that scene?!) or Eddie Brock/ Venom from Raimi’s trilogy, or Harry again, or Dr, Conners/ lizard from the rebooted series.


 
  • F**k the Po-lice

          
A lot of superhero movies tend to portray the authorities as almost utterly incompetent, but the lengths to which this franchise has taken it is almost offensive. The only purpose the NYPD appears to serve in a Spiderman movie is to let the audience know how strong the villain(s) really is (are). There was a scene in ‘The Amazing Spiderman’ where cops actually take lizard down in a shootout towards the end of the film, which I really liked in principle, but he just regenerated in a second and converted all the cops in the frame into lizards. I guess I should have known better.

A special mention goes out to the trigger happy cop who decides to take a shot at Electro while Spiderman is trying to get through to him. He singlehandedly managed to release a shit storm on New York, and so is indirectly accountable for making the audience sit through the drab second half of The Amazing Spiderman 2


 

  • Believe in co-incidence
           
Both origin movies conveniently have a super hero and super villain spawning in the same city, at about the same time, and they just happen to know each other! At other times you have an alien symbiote from OUTER SPACE coming in an attaching itself to the ONLY superhero around. It proves alien life exists, but no biggie. Peter would rather prance around in a suspicious black spidey suit with no idea of its origins

Mark Webb’s movies are no better in this department: The guys who’s kid Spiderman saves in ‘The Amazing Spiderman’ just happens to be an ON DUTY crane operator with a ton of clout, IN the vicinity of the action, AND has no problem lining up some cranes to help our neighborhood arachnid on his way.

More recently, Electro and Harry decide to work against Spiderman together, but Harry decides to wait till Spiderman is finished with Electro before conveniently showing up to a fair fight. What a benevolent bad guy.



  • Expect he expected
       

The reason I say this is because each one of these movies has been fundamentally vanilla. Spiderman is going to beat the bad guys and save the city yet again. Its pretty much exactly how it plays out every time. Hell, even Transformers killed Optimus Prime for a bit in Revenge of the Fallen.

Besides that one sub-plot in Raimi’s ‘Spider-Man’ where Green Goblin tries to convince Spiderman to work with him, I can’t really think of a subplot that really excited me in terms of the character arc within any of the films.

The whole Peter losing focus and his powers arc in Spiderman 2 was one of the worst subplots in a superhero movie, and no surprise: the minute MJ is captured by the villain all the focus comes swinging back in a second.

The symbiote, and consequently Venom’s entire arc was wasted in Spiderman 3, not to mention (again) Gwen Stacy there.

A lot of views seemed to find the Richard Parker sub plot interesting in the new series, but I’ll wait to call it till I see it get fully developed hopefully in the third film.

Rhino, Norman Osbourne were most recently wasted in Amazing Spiderman 2, serving almost no purpose whatsoever
 




     

How cool would this be?


I’m sure I’m not the only one who wants to see the likes on Kraven, Carnage, and yes, Venom too done right.
Sure, I'm not expecting a full blown Carnage arc, or the Six Arm Saga to show up on screen anytime soon, but how cool is just the thought of those stories being adapted. Here's hoping that maybe SONY is listening, and turns things around with their next few offerings.
 
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GizmoEl
GizmoEl - 6/27/2014, 3:36 PM
To be fair, Gwen never seemed like the damsel in distress type. She seemed like the "I know it's dangerous but I have to help" type. MJ was used as bait in the first trilogy whereas Gwen synthesized the cure in the first movie and helped take down Electro in the second one.. before dying a pretty brutal death. I wish she stuck around for another movie.

The police were also a lot less anti-Spidey in the second TASM movie. At the end a reporter even said that the NYPD admitted that they needed Spidey to come back.

Coincidences are found in most movies, and it's pretty lame.

In terms of expect the unexpected, I agree but that also applies to most superhero movies nowadays. At least this one killed the leading lady in it's latest installment and will keep her dead.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 6/27/2014, 3:39 PM
Cool article. Howevver,the whole coincidence thing? Two words: Parker Luck.

Also:"The whole Peter losing focus and his powers arc in Spiderman 2 was one of the worst subplots in a superhero movie," Agree to disagree.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/27/2014, 3:40 PM
1. Peter Parker

2. Aunt May

3. Webs

4. A red and blue costume

5. Love interest.

Article over.
3DOldskool
3DOldskool - 6/27/2014, 3:55 PM
"The whole Peter losing focus and his powers arc in Spiderman 2 was one of the worst subplots in a superhero movie."

Go pick up a Spider-man comic book called Amazing Spider-man No. 50 and you will know why that statement has zero credibility to be called on.
UltimateCookie
UltimateCookie - 6/27/2014, 4:16 PM
Despite being a bad movie, I loved the scene in ASM2 when Spidey had on a fireman's hat and was putting out the flames too.

3DOldskool
3DOldskool - 6/27/2014, 4:36 PM
"Almost every superhero film has the the hero save the love interest or a woman they care about. Gwen Stacey didn't even get captured by the villain in TASM."

Nice to know, but she did get captured and died in TASM 2. Once again, the MJ from the original trilogy was just horrible writing.

"The police were barely in the originals"

There were policemen everywhere in Spider-man 1, 2 and 3. They were more concerned with the villains' threat than Spider-man being a vigilante.

Other than those, I agree with you.
TucksFrom2015
TucksFrom2015 - 6/27/2014, 4:39 PM
I love how when the Rhino is shooting at cops, and there's a big crowd of people behind a barricade just watching instead of running away. then this kid crawls underneath and goes out into the line of fire, his mom starts screaming at him.

so how do New York's finest respond? let's say Cop A responds first and tries to restrain the mother, while Cop B responds a second later and slowly chases after the kid but for some reason gives up trying to save the kids life.. because he's afraid of being shot at? maybe Cop A didn't see the kid, but then why didd he restrain a woman screaming someone's name in a particular direction and not think to look that way? why couldn't Cop B outrun a small child? bad screenwriting, but kind of forgivable in a way.

the crowd was watching the spectacle because they're tough New Yorkers in a city with the only superhero action ever. the NYPD are incompetent in the Spider-Man universe because real-life cops are generally seen as incompetent, power-tripping fools. also, you're article forgot to mention how many funeral scenes are featured in every single movie except Spider-Man 2.
UltimateCookie
UltimateCookie - 6/27/2014, 4:53 PM
You forgot crying in your article but Andrew Garfield oesn't cry nearly as much as Tobey Maguire so...
3DOldskool
3DOldskool - 6/27/2014, 5:08 PM
HOTSHOT,

I can't be the only one hoping that Garfield gets a shitty script exactly like Spider-man 3 to work with right? I hope we get the last laugh on these mindless idiots in the end.

One can only hope God appears somewhere on earth and we request him to make Andrew dance and cry too.
3DOldskool
3DOldskool - 6/27/2014, 5:14 PM
@ Pending, anybody who is a fan of Andrew or TASM are all a bunch of assholes, and girls who like them probably post pictures of themselves on the internet being pretty so they could win over men.
UltimateCookie
UltimateCookie - 6/27/2014, 6:22 PM
@AlphaandDecims I grew up on the Raimi trilogy so I obviously have seen it. I still think Tobey Maguire cries more than Andrew Garfield. I can only recall Garfield crying twice while Maguire's crying scenes are countless.
3DOldskool
3DOldskool - 6/27/2014, 6:51 PM
@cookiekid, you obviously were not paying attention to the Tobey Maguire films at all. Your statement is nothing more than a convoluted mess. Also, the cryings were justified at least.

@Themexicansuperman: You too, you did not pay that much attention the Raimi trilogy either. No movies are perfect. I actually like it more when the police officers like Spider man and goes after the villains more than Police officers want Spider-man on trial for being an anti-hero. There is no way you're going to convince me that Webb's Spider-man is likable.
3DOldskool
3DOldskool - 6/27/2014, 6:56 PM
@ Pending: fake fans will always be fake fans. They will keep throwing their money into Sony's pockets as long as Sony can feed more crap to these fake Spider-man fans. Also, the memes are kind of immature. I can make one for Andrew too, but I won't. I'm more mature than that even though I'm not the biggest fan of his Spider-man.

3DOldskool
3DOldskool - 6/27/2014, 7:09 PM
@deth, if Raimi had gotten writers who actually understands the knack of Spider-man and his humorous personality, I dont think a reboot with a hipster cool haired twilight chic magnet would be needed by now.

Tell me if you agree. I think fans of Andrew's Spider-man are already brainwashed enough. They'll probably say "I think the fantastic four reboot has perfect casts" too later. Lol
UltimateCookie
UltimateCookie - 6/27/2014, 7:12 PM
@3DOldskool

I don't recall being a Sony fanboy or anything of the sorts. I thought the ASM was okay and ASM2 was terrible. The first two Raimi SM movies were good and are the best ones made. Maybe it is that image since it's been repeated so many times it's kind of burnt in my head. Also, how is my statement a convoluted mess? Because I wasn't prepared to go all the way with Tobey Maguire as Spider Man? He was a good Spider Man but as far as the SM role I enjoy Andrew Garfield more. I'm not a Sony fanboy and if I were to be asked which was better Raimi or Webb I would say Raimi's trilogy all day everyday.
3DOldskool
3DOldskool - 6/27/2014, 7:17 PM
@Why Andrew garfield? I don't see anything special about him. he looks pretty weird shooting webs and doing the spidey tricks and techniques, and also having the "spider sense" tingling on him. I never had that problem when Tobey was in the role. I always thought he would make a perfect Spider-man if the writing of characterizing Peter parker and Spider man was better.

You are just saying that you prefer Garfield for the role without offering any strong details to back it up. I honestly in no way see how he can be a superior replacement for the former. I think Dylan O Brien would make a much much much better replacement for Maguire than Garfield.
UltimateCookie
UltimateCookie - 6/27/2014, 7:25 PM
I never really saw this as an argument so I never thought to include strong details. I've seen all the Spider-Man movies and I simply prefer Garfield over Maguire. I had no idea my preferences needed explanation.
3DOldskool
3DOldskool - 6/27/2014, 7:28 PM
@CookieKid247 Well you should be able to add explanations now. Saying that you prefer Garfield over Maguire is just another random statement if you don't elaborate on your pick.
3DOldskool
3DOldskool - 6/27/2014, 7:29 PM
@Alpha,

Don't ever put the word "crying" and "Garfield" together again because Garfield has no skills when it comes to crying. He barely makes a tear at all in these movies.
3DOldskool
3DOldskool - 6/27/2014, 7:37 PM
Well, for one, I can point out.. that in both Uncle Ben's death scenes, Tobey's crying was actually real and had real tears coming out compared to Andrew's scene. Gotta give Tobey credit for that.
UltimateCookie
UltimateCookie - 6/27/2014, 7:38 PM
I was born in 1997 the first Spider-Man came out in 2002 I believe. As a four year old I pretty much dragged my parents into the theater so I could see it. I loved the first and still watch it to this day. I saw each of the Raimi Spider Man's in theaters and owned 1 and 2 on DVD so asking me whether I saw them is redundant.

Since it's such a big deal to elaborate on why I simply prefer Garfield it's because Garfield has the comedy that I knew from Spider-Man in the comics growing up and he seems to be believable as a high-school/college student to me while Maguire always came off looking about 28. Again I love Maguire in the role but I see a bright future with Garfield as Spider-Man as long as the screenwriters don't [frick] up again like they did with ASM2. Garfield is truly my dream Spider-Man and I had no clue he existed before ASM came out so I was blown away by his performance. I just believe he embodies Spider-Man better than Maguire even with the shitty movies he's been given. If SM does revert back top Marvel I would still love Garfield as Spider-Man because it would mean he wouldn't be associated with the mess Sony has created forever. I hope ASM3 is good because I would feel bad for Andrew Garfield if it was as bad as its predecessor. Garfield is the only reason I could see them rebooting Spider-Man so quickly after SM3, because I felt new to the character again and Garfield's take had ALOT more comedy than Maguire's portrayal.
3DOldskool
3DOldskool - 6/27/2014, 7:45 PM
"Since it's such a big deal to elaborate on why I simply prefer Garfield it's because Garfield has the comedy that I knew from Spider-Man in the comics growing up and he seems to be believable as a high-school/college student to me while Maguire always came off looking about 28."

A. That's all in the script. If the comedic side of Spider-man was in Raimi's script, would you have said the same thing for Raimi's Spider-man too? Plus, both of them played Spider-man around that age so there's no difference between when Andrew or Tobey started playing the role. They were exactly around that age for the first cinematic Spider-man movies.

"Garfield is truly my dream Spider-Man and I had no clue he existed before ASM came out so I was blown away by his performance."

I barely noticed him.

"I just believe he embodies Spider-Man better than Maguire even with the shitty movies he's been given."

Opinions are subjective. It depends on what you prefer. Garfield's build is leaner while Maguire's version has more muscles around him and not too skinny. But a perfect Spider-man build would have to be in between the both.

"If SM does revert back top Marvel I would still love Garfield as Spider-Man because it would mean he wouldn't be associated with the mess Sony has created forever."

That's not going to happen. There are much better choices out there in Hollywood who could be casted as Spider-man. I personally don't think Garfield makes a superior choice at all. I have a hard time believing that Marvel would want A.G as Spider-man regardless of his acting abilities. Garfield is good, but he's far from untouchable. I just hope he's recasted when it goes back to Marvel.

"Garfield's take had ALOT more comedy than Maguire's portrayal."

Again, Webb's script actually understands the character while Raimi's understands the tone and fun to the character more. If there was comedy in Raimi's script, would you say that both versions of Spider-man are just about as comedic and fun as each other?


3DOldskool
3DOldskool - 6/27/2014, 7:47 PM
@Alpha, I hardly noticed Andrew's tears though.

But if we were to go with your view, do you think both of them cry just as good?
UltimateCookie
UltimateCookie - 6/27/2014, 7:48 PM
That's a little impossible to answer considering Raimi's script had no comedy. How can I answer a question about a part of the movie that doesn't exist? It's like saying "Hey did you like that part in Man of Steel when Green Lantern came?"
UltimateCookie
UltimateCookie - 6/27/2014, 7:50 PM
@Alpha So my opinion on crying makes you question if I've seen the movies? I would get it if I said something like "Spider-man dies in the first movie" but I just said I thought Maguire cried more. Relax.
3DOldskool
3DOldskool - 6/27/2014, 7:54 PM
@Cookie, so basically your reason of preferring Garfield more is cause his Spider-man makes more jokes right?
UltimateCookie
UltimateCookie - 6/27/2014, 7:55 PM
No my reason for preferring Garfield as Spider-Man is he's more believable and relatable in my opinion.
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