Good News For SPIDER-MAN 4 Is Bad News For SHANG-CHI 2 As Sequel Is Put On The Back Burner

Good News For SPIDER-MAN 4 Is Bad News For SHANG-CHI 2 As Sequel Is Put On The Back Burner

Following the news that Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings director Destin Daniel Cretton is being lined up to helm Spider-Man 4, we have a disappointing - albeit expected - Shang-Chi 2 update.

By JoshWilding - Sep 10, 2024 10:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man
Source: Variety

Yesterday evening, the news broke that Spider-Man 4 has finally found a director in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings helmer Destin Daniel Cretton. 

It's a decision which has been met with widespread approval from fans, especially after rumoured names like Drew Goddard and Adam Wingard did little to inspire confidence in Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures' plans for a movie that may or may not be another Multiversal epic. 

However, good news for Spider-Man 4 is bad news for the Shang-Chi sequel. 

According to Variety, "Cretton has also been developing a sequel to 'Shang-Chi,' but a source close to the production says that 'Spider-Man 4' is currently the priority for the studio." As a result, that movie has now been put on the back burner and will no longer be released before the next Avengers movies. 

This also suggests Marvel Studios won't look for another director to helm Shang-Chi 2 and rush it out without Cretton (who has also developed Disney+'s Wonder Man for them).

Back when the director was attached to Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, it looked like he might take charge of Shang-Chi and the Wreckage of Time (the sequel's rumoured title revealed by copyright listings in 2022) as a direct lead-in to that ensemble project.

That was back when the Ten Rings almost certainly had ties to Kang, and with that villain now sidelined for Robert Downey Jr.'s Doctor Doom, we'd imagine the Shang-Chi sequel will be redeveloped for the next Saga of MCU storytelling. 

Very little has been revealed about Spider-Man 4 and, despite months of rumours ranging from a team-up with Daredevil to Sydney Sweeney playing Black Cat, the trades have had little new intel to share. It does sound like cameras are expected to begin rolling at the start of 2025, though, likely placing Spider-Man 4 in the Multiverse Saga's vacant July 24, 2026 slot. 

The movie being released between Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars could mean it will indeed reunite Tom Holland's Peter Parker with the Variants played by Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield, but we'll have to wait and see. 

"The thing that is very cool is that, when you’re on the inside," Cretton previously said of working with Marvel Studios, "and I hope this doesn’t shatter anybody’s fantasy, but you realize how normal everybody is. It doesn’t feel like you’re with the cool kids. It feels like you’re just with a bunch of nerds like yourself."

"It’s just a bunch of passionate people trying to tell stories and solve problems. It’s very fun, but it doesn’t feel exclusive, on the inside. It just feels creative, like anything else."

Stay tuned for additional updates on Spider-Man 4 (and Shang-Chi 2!) as we have them. 

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DocSpock
DocSpock - 9/10/2024, 10:14 AM

Shang-chi 2. Who cares? Woman Man. Quadruple who cares?


Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 9/10/2024, 11:32 AM
@DocSpock - User Comment Image
bobevanz
bobevanz - 9/10/2024, 11:53 AM
@clintthahamster - she is gonna mop the floor with that diaper wearing fascist tonight. Country over party! I might be a registered republican but there's no way I'm supporting that bag of dicks
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 9/10/2024, 12:06 PM
@bobevanz - I would never discuss politics on this pure forum for comic book movie fandom, but if I were going to, I'd say that yes, that will be fun to watch. That said, TFG's voice makes my wife's skin crawl, so I may be watching alone/on headphones.
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 9/10/2024, 12:43 PM
@DocSpock - probably confirms shang chi 2 premise will be part of spidey 4
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/10/2024, 1:00 PM
@bobevanz - not according to that new New York Times poll
Matchesz
Matchesz - 9/10/2024, 2:53 PM
@bobevanz - i just dont how ppl can support her with her communist policies. Hating trump would never be enough for me to sabotage this country
DocSpock
DocSpock - 9/10/2024, 10:14 PM
@CaptainFlapjaks -

Yeah. Terrible.
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 9/10/2024, 10:18 PM
@DocSpock - i mean. Shang chi being a part of the street level stuff works. That may be where he is placed at the end of this. I was hoping for shang chi meets iron fist in shang chi 2 but hey...spider-fu could be a neat consellation prize
DocSpock
DocSpock - 9/10/2024, 10:24 PM
@CaptainFlapjaks -

I respectfully disagree.
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 9/10/2024, 10:25 PM
@DocSpock - disagreement respectfully acknowledged. Good day! Happy travels
DocSpock
DocSpock - 9/10/2024, 10:43 PM
@CaptainFlapjaks -

Cheers!
TheIronDuck
TheIronDuck - 9/10/2024, 10:19 AM
Recast Kang.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/10/2024, 10:24 AM
@TheIronDuck - I think it’s too late for that now even though I would have preferred that and then finishing off that narrative
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 9/10/2024, 11:07 AM
@TheIronDuck - are you forgetting the Robert Downey junior kang variant?
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 9/10/2024, 10:16 PM
@TheIronDuck - david corenswet as kang....wait he may be unavailable? Can anyone check?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/10/2024, 10:24 AM
Makes sense even though it’s still a bummer…

Also Josh , I know you aren’t the biggest fan of them but let’s not act like you speak for everyone because there were people who would have gladly have taken Adam Wingard or Drew Goddard at the helm of this (especially the latter).

Anyway , I’m excited for Cretton taking the wheel on this from Watts..

Now I just hope it’s a straightforward street level story rather then any multiversal shenanigans so fingers crossed!!.
OgHerManM
OgHerManM - 9/10/2024, 10:24 AM
meh.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 9/10/2024, 10:31 AM
I absolutely want them to revisit Shang-Chi now that he's been set up... With that said, I'm okay with using him as a support in something else.
Iron Man didn't have any sequels after IM3 but it didn't stop them from making fairly good use of him afterward.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/10/2024, 10:49 AM
@Slotherin - if the Sony Marvel contract requires another MCU hero in these films then I think he wouldn’t be a bad co-lead

They even have some history in the comics.

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Spoken
Spoken - 9/10/2024, 10:33 AM
He might appear in Spider-Man 4...
ImNotaBot
ImNotaBot - 9/10/2024, 10:37 AM
I hope the plot of Shang Chi 2 centers around a martial arts tournament, just like Bloodsport. It would be awesome to see the MCU version of a Mortal Kombat featuring Shang Chi, Iron Fist and Luke Cage.

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bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/10/2024, 10:42 AM
@ImNotaBot - agreed. Think it would be interesting if Shang-Chi and Ta-Lo get invited as the eight member of an Immortal Weapons tournament.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 9/10/2024, 3:42 PM
@bkmeijer1 - aight, that sounds fun
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 9/10/2024, 10:37 AM
Because Shang Chi will probably be the major supporting hero in the film instead of Daredevil. Maybe he will teach Peter some fighting techniques and train him on how to fight hand to hand like in the comics.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 9/10/2024, 10:47 AM
@SonOfAGif - Daredevil > Shang-Chi. And as much as I enjoyed the Shang-Chi movie it's not even close.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/10/2024, 1:00 PM
@SonOfAGif - that would be an incredible let down
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 9/10/2024, 10:37 AM
they should pull another dr doom and just recast the SHANG-CHI actor as miles morales for sp4
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/10/2024, 10:41 AM
"that movie has now been put on the back burner and will no longer be released before the next Avengers movies."

Honestly, I didn't saw that happening before this announcement. Earliest I could see it be released is on that November 2027 release date.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 9/10/2024, 1:10 PM
@bkmeijer1 -
If we believe the actors' remarks it was intended to release between Avengers 5 & 6 anyway, so the idea that its not coming out until after Avengers: Doomsday is not a new one.
JayLemle
JayLemle - 9/10/2024, 11:06 AM
They called Shang-Chi "the new Avenger" on the poster. I'd love to see a Shang-Chi II sooner than Spiderman. Feige and Co fast-tracked Spiderman, so this isn't a surprise. Being "wary" of continuing the role, along with other business decisions, also, not surprising.

I bet Shang-Chi will be in one of these new Avengers movies.
dracula
dracula - 9/10/2024, 11:20 AM
Crossover time?

If spidermen is required to have an Avenger in every movie, make it Shang Chi
MrDandy
MrDandy - 9/10/2024, 11:22 AM
Huge bummer that they are not making his sequel more of a priority when he was one of the more well received new characters after Phase 3
Polaris
Polaris - 9/10/2024, 11:28 AM
@MrDandy - Yeah. Cretton could have been working on that instead of Wonder Man.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/10/2024, 1:01 PM
@MrDandy - probably doesn't have the story nailed
Comicmoviejunki
Comicmoviejunki - 9/10/2024, 11:27 AM
This will be Spiderman 4/Shang Chi 2 hybrid
Order66
Order66 - 9/10/2024, 11:31 AM
Shang Chi: The Legend of the Iron Fist

Make it happen.
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