SPIDER-WOMAN And MADAME WEB Will Be Two Separate Projects In The Sony's Universe of Marvel Characters

SPIDER-WOMAN And MADAME WEB Will Be Two Separate Projects In The Sony's Universe of Marvel Characters

Despite speculation that Sony's Spider-Woman and Madame Web movies are one and the same, a new report indicates that they're going to be two separate projects in the studio's "SPUMC." Check it out...

By JoshWilding - Jun 16, 2020 03:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Madame Web
Source: Murphy's Multiverse

In recent weeks, there's been a lot of chatter online that the Madame Web movie Sony Pictures is developing will revolve around Julia Carpenter. In the comics, she's one of many women to hold the "Spider-Woman" mantle before eventually becoming a new version of Madame Web, and that would certainly guarantee we get to see some action in the spinoff!

Well, Murphy's Multiverse is reporting that these are two separate projects and that, as of February, Jessica Drew will be the lead in Spider-Woman. That's not to say Julia couldn't be in Madame Web, of course, but this debunks any sort of claims that the two projects are being combined in some way.

The site adds that, in April, Sony Pictures executive Palak Patel was hired to oversee development of Madame Web, and subsequently hired the writing team of Matt Sazama and Burk Sharpless.

As for Spider-Woman, Patel is overseeing that as well, but so is Rachel O'Connor (with Amy Pascal producing). Something tells us these movies will end up tying together in some way, but fans remain confused as to why Sony Pictures' Universe of Marvel Characters is prioritising an elderly psychic over so many other heroes and villains they hold the rights to. 

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10. The Lizard

Lizard

The Lizard was The Amazing Spider-Man's lead villain, and Sony Pictures and Marc Webb dropped the ball on the character in a big way. A lot of what was there worked nicely, but his plan was generic and his appearance...well, that's still a point of ridicule among many fans! 

Rebooting The Lizard would make perfect sense, especially if the next film is indeed going to feature Kraven the Hunter. However, Curt Connors is definitely a character who needs some screentime before becoming this monster, so it feels like the moment has passed now.

Moving forward, we could see The Lizard, but when it comes to rebooting villains we've already seen, something tells us The Lizard is likely near the bottom of the list in terms of priorities. 
 

9. Captain George Stacy

Captain-Stacy

Spider-Man 3 didn't do much with Captain George Stacy, and things got weird with the character in The Amazing Spider-Man. After begging Peter Parker to leave his daughter alone (so she would be protected from his alter-ego's enemies), the high school student decided to completely ignore his dying wish...mostly because Andrew Garfield's version of Peter was a major douche! 

The plan was for some sort of serum to bring him back from the dead in The Amazing Spider-Man 3, and while it would definitely be fun to give Peter - a wanted murderer in the MCU - some sort of ally (or enemy) in the New York City police department, there are better choices than George Stacy. 

Captain Yuri Watanabe, Jean DeWolff, and Carlie Cooper are all better possibilities if that is a direction Marvel Studios has decided to head in, so we're not expecting to see George for a long time.
 

8. Black Cat

Black-Cat

This is really disappointing, but we find it very hard to imagine that Felicia Hardy is coming to the Marvel Cinematic Universe any time soon. Sony Pictures believe Black Cat has franchise potential (which is a valid point, to be fair), hence why she was set to star in Silver & Black before reportedly being given her own solo outing by the studio. 

Felicia's relationship with Peter is equal parts compelling and complex, and the fact she's in love with Spider-Man and not the man beneath the mask would be fascinating to explore on screen. 

If Sony abandons plans to give Black Cat her own movie, then we could potentially see her in Spider-Man 3, but with Sony banking so much on the SPUMC, we're not going to bank on that.
 

7. The Kingpin

Spider-Kingpin

When Wilson Fisk was first introduced, he was a Spider-Man villain. It's easy to forget that was the case seeing as The Kingpin has become synonymous with Daredevil, and that's also why Vincent D'Onofrio portrayed a terrifying version of the villain in the Man Without Fear's Netflix TV series. 

Those characters look set to remain on the shelf for the foreseeable future, and given Kevin Feige's lack of involvement in those shows, it's unlikely he wants to bring the same actors back. 

That's a great shame considering how great D'Onofrio was as The Kingpin, and the actor has expressed interest in facing Spider-Man multiple times. It's just unfortunate that his version comes with so much baggage, as that likely closes the door to a big screen debut as soon as Spider-Man 3.
 

6. Gwen Stacy

Gwen

Both Sam Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy and The Amazing Spider-Man movies included Gwen Stacy. An argument could be made that none of those films did the character justice, though Emma Stone's portrayal was pretty spot on, and she even died almost identically to her comic book counterpart. 

Marvel Studios has already reinvented Mary Jane Watson as Zendaya's "MJ," so even if we do see Gwen, it's likely that she will be unrecognisable to fans. There were rumours she could appear in Spider-Man: Far From Home as a foreign exchange student, but that never ended up happening.

Now, with Peter romantically involved with MJ and Spider-Man having bigger problems than holding on to a girlfriend, we're not expecting to see Gwen outside of the Spider-Verse franchise for now.
 

5. Sandman

Sandman

Much to the chagrin of, well, everyone, Spider-Man 3 revealed that Sandman murdered Uncle Ben. It was a daft, unnecessary decision, and one which soured the character in the eyes of many fans.

In Spider-Man: Far From Home, we were introduced to a number of Elementals, one of whom was clearly similar to Sandman. So, just like we're now not expecting to see the likes of Hydro-Man and Molten Man in the MCU after they were portrayed as interdimensional invaders in that sequel, it's hard to believe we're now going to see Sandman in a future Spider-Man adventure. 

That will disappoint those hoping to see him potentially assemble with the rest of the Sinister Six, but is anyone really crying out for another version of Sandman in the web-slinger's world at this point?
 

4. Miles Morales

Spider-Man-Miles

The existence of Miles Morales was teased in Spider-Man: Homecoming, but there's been no sign of him since. If he was going to be introduced, it surely would have been after that five-year time-jump; instead, there was no mention of the hero in Spider-Man: Far From Home, and given the success of the animated Spider-Verse franchise, we're not anticipating seeing him in live-action.

That's a crazy decision, but why would Sony Pictures gift Marvel Studios another Spider-Man? If anything, they will more than likely want to use him in a spinoff series of their own at some point. 

It's a shame because there's so much that could have been done with the Peter/Miles relationship in the MCU, but there are still more stories to tell with the current web-slinger, so Spider-Man 3 - or Spider-Man 4 - are unlikely to replace him just yet. Could it happen one day? Maybe, but we doubt it. 
 

3. Green Goblin

Green-Goblin

Look, we're as desperate as you guys to see Norman Osborn in the MCU, and Avengers Tower being revealed as Oscorp would be, well, spectacular. However, given the tenuous relationship between Disney and Sony Pictures (which nearly fell apart last year), can you imagine how disastrous it would have been to include an Oscorp Easter Egg in Spider-Man: Far From Home?

After all, had they not worked things out, it wouldn't have ever gone anywhere. Throw in the fact that Green Goblin has been done across two different franchises, and it's doubtful we'll see him again.

There are ways to differentiate this version of Norman Osborn from the ones we've seen on screen before now, and having him lead the Sinister Six would be no bad thing. However, we're not banking on it at this point, and a rebooted Doctor Octopus actually seems more realistic now.
 

2. Electro 

Electro

When Jamie Foxx was cast as Electro in The Amazing Spider-Man 2, we all expected big things from the electrically powered baddie. After all, an Oscar-winner was playing him, but what we ended up with was a baddie who wouldn't have been out of place in Batman & Robin

Everything about him was terrible, though Electro's popularity hasn't diminished as he's continued to appear both in video games and the comic books (where he's now been replaced by a woman). 

Regardless of who is beneath the mask, there's only so much which can be done with a villain who has electricity powers, and most of those were actually done in The Amazing Spider-Man 2. With that in mind, poor old Max Dillon is likely to remain on the shelf for a very long time to come.
 

1. Venom

Venom1

At some point over the next few years, it's inevitable that Spider-Man will cross paths with Venom. 

That's more than likely what Kevin Feige was referring to when he talked about Spidey being able to cross between worlds, and when Peter Parker does meet up with Eddie Brock, it will be in the SPUMC rather than the MCU. Chances are that crossover will be a memorable one, but many fans remain disappointed that it won't be Feige and Jon Watts in charge when it happens. 

In an ideal world, Peter would have returned from Titan with an alien Symbiote. Unfortunately, that's not how things went following the release of Venom in 2018, so what will be will be!
 

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bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 6/16/2020, 3:50 AM
They really should just throw characters like Jessica Drew and Julia Carpenter (and maybe even Cindy Moon too) in that female Spider-Verse spin-off to see if there really is a demand for these characters first
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 6/16/2020, 7:27 AM
@MalseMarcel - As far i know it does seem we will see Jessica and Cindy in the spin off, though i could be wrong/misremembering it.
JustALurker
JustALurker - 6/16/2020, 7:10 PM
@MalseMarcel - it would be another, Ocean's 8, Ghostbusters 2016 situation. Where the movie is bad and men are blamed for hating it due to sexism.
JDL
JDL - 6/16/2020, 4:10 AM
If these films don't make money look to Sony to get out of the biz. Spidey is their only tentpole IP remaining since they lost Bond.
Saintsinnister
Saintsinnister - 6/16/2020, 4:13 AM
Nobody wants this do they? Maybe a Spider-woman movie, although general audiences have never embraced her as a good character. I’m willing to bet these eventually get scrapped along with all the other lame spin offs that have been put to sleep in the past. Venom was a success because people know that character and love it. A spiderverse with mere Easter eggs of actual Spider-Man is lame.
JustALurker
JustALurker - 6/16/2020, 7:14 PM
@Saintsinnister - I think the only "female version of a popular character" that succeeded as it's own was BatGirl. Hopefully she-hulk too. spider-Women never felt like a B-lister, a C-lister even.
AC1
AC1 - 6/16/2020, 4:43 AM
I don't see why they won't extend their deal with Marvel Studios to other properties. Look how successful the two Spidey movies have been with Marvel Studios working on them - then compare that to Venom which was pretty much just carried by Tom Hardy's star power.

Especially with Spider-Woman, who I'm pretty sure has ties to SHIELD and was a pretty big part of the Avengers comics for a while (I may be wrong there) it'd make sense to do a joint deal with the character guaranteeing connectivity with the MCU and pretty much ensuring a higher quality movie too. And they should do that with the rest of the Spider-Centric characters too.
WeaponXCII
WeaponXCII - 6/16/2020, 4:47 AM
Just like how that Silver and Black movie ended up, right?

L0RDbuckethead
L0RDbuckethead - 6/16/2020, 6:27 AM
@WeaponXCII - This was my exact thought lol
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 6/16/2020, 6:36 AM
“ there's been a lot of chatter online that the Madame Web movie Sony Pictures is developing will revolve around Julia Carpenter...”

“...fans remain confused as to why Sony Pictures' Universe of Marvel Characters is prioritising an elderly psychic over so many other heroes and villains they hold the rights to.”

...what? Did Julia have a sudden age spurt like Cap now?
JustALurker
JustALurker - 6/16/2020, 7:20 PM
@Chewtoy - we are talking about obscure Spiderman side-characters. Madame webs biggest appearances both had her as an elderly woman. Prolly aunt may of her universe.

KrazyForKomix
KrazyForKomix - 6/16/2020, 6:48 AM
I'm sure this is old news but how is it that Sony has the rights to Spider-Woman? I could POSSIBLY see how they have access to Julia Carpenter. But Jessica Drew?!?
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 6/16/2020, 7:31 AM
@KrazyForKomix - Obiously because of the name Spider-Woman, they own the rights to every version of Spider-Woman regardless if she's tied to Peter or not.

Its the same case as how it was with Fox before the buyout, they had the rights to every single mutant, even if the character has nothing to do with X-Men (Heck back when Perlmutter was throwing tanturms over not having the rights, they put a ban on creating new mutants characters cause they wouldn't own the rights)
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 6/16/2020, 8:28 AM
OMG.....stop. Sony, stick to animation. Y'all are killing it with the Miles stuff. Leave the live action to Marvel Studios. That just ain't your lane.
thepowerofseven
thepowerofseven - 6/16/2020, 1:35 PM
@Tonic24k - haha holy$#!t, I didn't read your entry until just now and wrote almost exactly the same thing! haha well, it's good to know someone agrees!
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 6/18/2020, 6:21 AM
@thepowerofseven - Yeah dude. It only makes sense and everyone gets some of that Marvel pie.
itzayaboy
itzayaboy - 6/16/2020, 9:02 AM
Why do they think people actually want this? No one wants this.
TheWarThor
TheWarThor - 6/16/2020, 3:04 PM
@zachman2013 - This is what I cannot understand! Nobody asked for this movie. I hope they learn their lesson when the movie bombs.
JustALurker
JustALurker - 6/16/2020, 7:32 PM
@Kiwiavenger - @zachman2013 - the value of the company will be gradually increase with a bigger announced catalogue of movies, this is just a ploy for the investors, I don't recall silver and black being releaced.
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