SPIDER-MAN: Details On Captain America's SINISTER SIX Role; Andrew Garfield FIRED?

SPIDER-MAN: Details On Captain America's SINISTER SIX Role; Andrew Garfield FIRED?

Additional "Sony Hack" emails have surfaced, and they reveal details about that possible Marvel/Sony deal, the reason why Andrew Garfield might not return as Spider-Man, The Amazing Spider-Man 3 being scrapped, Captain America's Sinister Six role, and much more...

By JoshWilding - Dec 12, 2014 07:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man
Source: Mashable

The "Sony Hack" debacle is the gift which keeps on giving, and the latest chain of emails shed some light on some of the Spider-Man details we've been hearing over the past few days! Based on emails seen by Mashable, Andrew Garfield's comments about studio interference being responsible for the tepid response to The Amazing Spider-Man 2 have upset the wrong people, especially as he failed to appear at a Sony corporate dinner in July which would have seen him meet Sony CEO Kaz Hirai and a number of other executives. However, "His absence (with less than an hour of notice) was seen as an affront and slight by the company's Tokyo bosses," according to the site. As a result, he's been effectively fired as talk of a new Spider-Man began in October. 

"I love introducing pp [Peter Parker] in cap but I know it comes with so many things since we won't give them what they want what will we give them? We can say it's a cameo but I'll bet it's more and will involve some of his world and it will be peter and spidey right," Amy Pascal said in an email to producer Matt Tolmach at one point, questioning how Spider-Man might fit into Marvel's longterm plans. Even more interesting though is a memo Pascal wrote to herself with issues they would need to take up with Marvel Studios if Sony were to agree to their rebooting of the character in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. "if we have spiderman in cap 3. what is our fee and our back end. need script approval, casting approval of sm and aunt may and consultation of mays house in queens and any other spiderman locations we may need in future movies. also approval of new spiderman costume> how long is he is the movie? how closely does it follow the civil war story line? does the world find out who spiderman is? are there any other characters from the spiderman universe they are using? can we use one of the marvel characters in our future spiderman movies not produced by marvel.can we use cap to set up ss? can drew work with the russos to get this done? are we renting him out?" Some interesting questions!
 
As you might imagine, this cameo (at this point, it seems as if they were only talking about lending Spider-Man to Marvel Studios for a single appearance) wouldn't have been free, and Pascal discussed both merchandising rights and taking a cut of the box office for the third Captain America movie. As for a solo Spider-Man outing following this appearance, Sony wanted to retain creative control over everything from the casting to script and director, something which may have put Marvel off. In fact, they wanted Marvel to consult on marketing materials ("because they are really good") but didn't appear to be willing to offer anything more than Spider-Man existing in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The plan would be to shoot this in 2015/16 for a 2017 release. 

Even more questions raised by Pascal give us an idea of 
where this potential crossover could lead:
 
would we have to dismantle ss?
can drew goddard write the sm original?
who would direct the sm movie?
what do we do with matt tolmach and avi?
they can not put spidey in future spiderman movies or team ups.
we need to keep animation rights for a theatrical relaesse spiderman move to be directed by lord and miller. we need to be able to make spiderman movies after this movie we need to be able to make the girl team up movie
is it possible to put spidey in worlds without other characcters once we is with iron man and cap
can we have him in cap and then 6 months later in ss
we have a right to co finance any movie that spiderman is in and get a production credit
we get to make future movies with our characters and theirs in a collorative way but we dont need their approval. marvel produces a bunch of spiderman movies for sony the way they do for disney....all spiderman dominent movie are financed snd marketed by us event though disney will have the mrech on eerything
we can put the marvel and even disney logo on ours if we can put sony on theirs


As you can see, they seemed to really come around to the idea of Marvel taking over the Spider-Man franchise, but still wanted to push ahead with an animated feature helmed by Phil Lord and Chris Miller and that llive-action female-led spinoff. They were also hoping that Captain America: Civil War could somehow help set up the events of Sinister Six, but do seem open to scrapping that movie if necessary. It even sounds like they want to use some of Marvel's characters in their Spider-Man movies! Ultimately, this shows us that there's a lot to be worked out if such a deal goes ahead, and as talks apparently fell through after the emails you see here, the fate of the Spider-Man franchise is now unclear. Surely Sony can't ignore the overwhelming demand to see Spidey in the MCU since these emails leaked, right? Be sure to share your thoughts on all of this below...
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MarkyMarkRises
MarkyMarkRises - 12/12/2014, 7:24 PM
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 12/12/2014, 7:25 PM
Before all the news about Sony's hack came out, I would've said that Marvel's Phase 3 announcement was easily the story of the year. Now? I gotta go with the ongoing saga of Sony's complete and utter incompetence, as revealed by the North Koreans. It's seriously the gift that keeps on giving.
MarkyMarkRises
MarkyMarkRises - 12/12/2014, 7:25 PM
Maybe get Tobey to do the reboot?
iMVuze
iMVuze - 12/12/2014, 7:25 PM
Just make it happen because I am curious as to what Marvel would do with Spidey.
Deschain99
Deschain99 - 12/12/2014, 7:26 PM
Honestly to get rid of Garfield . . .you just made the guy a martyr. After seeing the emails heh heh heh . .Yeah sorry he had an opinion and didn't feel like waving a Sony flag while tap dancing for big wigs and investors.
Parkerluckpersonified
Parkerluckpersonified - 12/12/2014, 7:26 PM
This is a shame, i love Garfield in the role :-( also i think putting him in civil war position so soon after Gwen death would be interesting.

Would be cool to get a Spidey film made to Marvel Studios standards though
MarkyMarkRises
MarkyMarkRises - 12/12/2014, 7:26 PM
Tell Seth Rogan and James Franco to hold up on the assassination, we need these North Koreans a little longer
tokens
tokens - 12/12/2014, 7:26 PM
Invictor
Invictor - 12/12/2014, 7:27 PM
Holy shit. This is unbelievable.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 12/12/2014, 7:27 PM
Good for Garfield, though. He's clearly passionate about the character, and he truly believed that the initial script for TASM 2 was great. It's such a shame that he's surrounded by so many idiots. If he's "fired", I hope it's a result of him sticking it to Sony, and that he got to go out on his own terms, so to speak. Because he's not even close to being the main problem of these movies.
santoanderson
santoanderson - 12/12/2014, 7:27 PM
Sony has no idea what the hell they're doing. Give Marvel creative control over Spidey, Sony. I do like Garfield though, and I do wish they'd keep him around at least for continuity's sake.
tokens
tokens - 12/12/2014, 7:27 PM
that's for mightyz
MisterBatfleck
MisterBatfleck - 12/12/2014, 7:28 PM
Wow. The Stupidity/Hackening continues. And I'm loving all the dirty little secrets that show just how bad Pascal is to Spidey.

I believe I speak for most when I say that it's time for the web-head to swing on home.
RoyRodgersMcFreely
RoyRodgersMcFreely - 12/12/2014, 7:29 PM
Introduce him in civil war and then kill him off by the end of the movie...done
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 12/12/2014, 7:29 PM
Also, if there's one thing these emails have shown us, its that top-level executives have the writing capabilities of a typical user on CBM.com. Not even just Amy Pascal, but almost EVERY email is evidence of someone struggling over the basics of the English language. It's almost scary.
TheDarkPassenger
TheDarkPassenger - 12/12/2014, 7:30 PM
Jesus Christ did she write this with her [frick]ing foot? Its like you gave an email address to a [frick]ing monkey with down syndrome.
tokens
tokens - 12/12/2014, 7:30 PM
sony is whoring spidey around everywhere. trying to get as much $$$ for him as possible
GiantNerd
GiantNerd - 12/12/2014, 7:30 PM
How can they seriously be this lost?

Sad that Spiderman is involved.
Deschain99
Deschain99 - 12/12/2014, 7:30 PM
@cinnamon

Lol. . .that for Zeus?
ALegendaryPanda
ALegendaryPanda - 12/12/2014, 7:31 PM
This whole Sony situation is.... to put it lightly.. a complete disaster.
RoyRodgersMcFreely
RoyRodgersMcFreely - 12/12/2014, 7:32 PM
Gusto writes better comments than pascal after he's passed out
MrFantastic
MrFantastic - 12/12/2014, 7:32 PM
Wow, this is pretty interesting to read.

Remember how when The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was about to be released, people said there would never be a crossover between Spidey and the other Marvel characters? Well, it looks like that might change.

Given how ASM2 underperformed, I'm not surprised that Sony is open to the idea of doing a collaboration with Disney/Marvel. The Lord-Miller team helming an animated Spider-Man film sounds appealing, but I just hope it doesn't turn into a goofball comedy.

Could Spider-Man appear in Captain America: Civil War? Even just for a brief cameo when he unmasks live on national television would be cool!
Nickk
Nickk - 12/12/2014, 7:32 PM
i think its kinda unfair and you josh ban DexterDouglas please i kinda think think its really unfair this guy loves spider man he reads all his comic and everythings he was perfect im not gonna like tobey as well
TucksFrom2015
TucksFrom2015 - 12/12/2014, 7:32 PM
this sucks. let the rights remain where they are.
FordEl
FordEl - 12/12/2014, 7:32 PM
I dont blame him. Garfield was really passionate about the character but Sony was doing him a disservice. I feel bad for him.
GRAYSONEX
GRAYSONEX - 12/12/2014, 7:33 PM
Come home Peter...
TheDarkPassenger
TheDarkPassenger - 12/12/2014, 7:33 PM
I do truly feel bad for Garfield, he seems like a great guy with a lot of passion for the character. If he was given better material to work with, maybe it would've worked out.

He'll find his place somewhere in the comic book movie verse.

At least he's got Emma Stone to comfort him at night....lucky [frick]...
AsgardianHobo
AsgardianHobo - 12/12/2014, 7:34 PM
Hahahaha, guess who is going to come into this article spamming spidey pics claiming that most people loved tasm2? Even with Sony knows otherwise
SuperCat
SuperCat - 12/12/2014, 7:34 PM
I've never had a problem with Garfield. My gripe has always been Sony and Webb.
DraculaX
DraculaX - 12/12/2014, 7:34 PM
is this the worst week for SOny or what?
cubrn
cubrn - 12/12/2014, 7:35 PM
this Sony hack is schaudenfraude defined
tokens
tokens - 12/12/2014, 7:35 PM
@Deschain
yeah he hates her for some reason
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