SPIDER-MAN 2 Creative Director Addresses Mary Jane Backlash: "If She's A Little OP, I Don't Give A Sh*t"

SPIDER-MAN 2 Creative Director Addresses Mary Jane Backlash: "If She's A Little OP, I Don't Give A Sh*t"

Some gamers aren't happy with MJ kicking so much ass in Spider-Man 2, but the sequel's creative director has now explained those missions and why he doesn't care if some people can't handle the upgrade.

By JoshWilding - Oct 31, 2023 03:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man PS4
Source: GameFragger.com

Spider-Man 2 has broken sales records for PlayStation and received positive reviews from fans and critics alike. In the sequel, Insomniac successfully addresses many of the complaints about its predecessors, though the divisive Mary Jane Watson missions do make their return, albeit only twice. 

Quite a bit more action-packed this time around, MJ uses a stun gun to take out Kraven the Hunter's goons with ease. Later in the game, there's even a level featuring The Daily Bugle reporter thrown into the midst of a full-blown third-person shooter as the web-slinger's girlfriend battles Venom's Symbiote army. 

These levels are a lot of fun to play, but for some fans out there, putting the spotlight on this "overpowered" MJ felt like a serious misfire. 

Talking to IGN (via GameFragger.com), Insomniac senior creative director Bryan Intihar weighed in on MJ's missions, acknowledging that while they weren't among Spider-Man's most popular moments, the decision was made to shake them up instead of scrapping them entirely. 

"We had two choices. We could say, 'All right, we'll make it easy and just not do it.' And everybody would go, 'Great. No MJ missions.' Or we could say, 'Hey, we've talked about showing the world from all different angles. We're going to make her moments better. We're going to take on the challenge. We're going to make people like playing as her.'"

"We pick and choose our spots. We knew we had to make her more of a proactive, capable person. And if she's a little OP, I don't give a shit. She's fine. I don't care."

This change has inevitably led to a mixed response from gamers, though Intihar would go on to reveal that giving MJ a weapon and making her more proactive (or "OP") was an idea the creative team first considered for 2018's Spider-Man

"In Spider-Man 1, there was a really, really early, super-early in development, we never made it, but it was part of a story treatment where Pete was going to be injured, and he could barely walk," Intihar says. "She was going to actually try to get him to safety, and she was going to grab one of his web-shooters and she was going to put it on, actually fire at enemies that were trying to get to them but that never happens."

"I think that's where the web-shooter idea came from, because I was like, 'Let's give her the ability to stun enemies in the first mission.'"

Do you think giving MJ a proactive role in Spider-Man 2's story was a bad idea or does this all just feel like another example of a capable female character getting online hate? As always, you can let us know your thoughts in the comments section. 

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AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 10/31/2023, 3:14 PM
They need to address why they made Mary Jane look like one of the writers. 😳🤦‍♂️👎
https://i.ytimg.com/vi_webp/ckimBuPD8GY/hqdefault.webp
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/31/2023, 3:35 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek - I really don't see the similarity
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/31/2023, 3:42 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek -



I AM THE LAW!

Sorry my mistake I thought that was Judge Dredd without his helmet.

The1st
The1st - 10/31/2023, 3:58 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek - 😅😁😆🤣😂
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 10/31/2023, 4:38 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek - She looks slightly different but there’s way more a difference between her and this person, than there is with her first model in 2018 to now. They added a little more bone structure and thinner nose but that’s it. She looks about as different as Miles does who also has a puffier less defined face in 2018 than in Spider-Man 2
Gabimaru
Gabimaru - 11/1/2023, 12:06 AM
@AnthonyVonGeek - self insert crew in movies series or even games just makes me cringe
bbting
bbting - 10/31/2023, 3:15 PM
made her missions better compared to the first game, idc if dorks are mad about it.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 10/31/2023, 3:18 PM
The missions really slowed the pace in game 1, they really managed to make them really enjoyable in the sequel. All the minor gripes from past games were re-tuned into perfection. I played SM1 5 times and MM 3 times, the new one is the best of everything! Only a real gamer will say this is fantastic, the rest complain about something that doesn't affect them and scream woke like a cringe malding Andy
bobevanz
bobevanz - 10/31/2023, 3:23 PM
My Halloween movies today are: The Exorcist, Bram Stoker's Dracula, Night of the Living Dead, and Hereditary (best horror movie since The Exorcist bar none)
videovac
videovac - 11/1/2023, 1:58 AM
"The missions really slowed the pace in game 1, they really managed to make them really enjoyable in the sequel. All the minor gripes from past games were re-tuned into perfection. I played SM1 5 times and MM 3 times, the new one is the best of everything! Only a real gamer will say this is fantastic, the rest complain about something that doesn't affect them and scream woke like a cringe malding Andy" - @bobevanz

I dare you to sit there and praise those shitty-ass Miles missions and that absolutely worthless waste of time deaf girl mission. I fukcin' dare you.

Get outta here with that "cringe malding" bullshit. This game ain't flawless. Fukc outta here with that.
ComicBookSon
ComicBookSon - 10/31/2023, 3:20 PM
"Face it tiger, you just hit the bargain bin."
dracula
dracula - 10/31/2023, 3:25 PM
Are her levels too easy or something?

Never played either game.
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 10/31/2023, 3:38 PM
@dracula - nah more the opposite, and to be fair it’s the only really thing that took me away from the game - she takes down two giant bad guys Miles and Spidey would struggle against together with a stun gun and some Spidey-mods.

Apart from this, I enjoyed playing as her. There was a vulnerability to her missions throughout the game, just the end of the game kind of made her OP at the end as a cop out to help the story speed up.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 10/31/2023, 3:26 PM
The mission on this game were actually fun. Loved the tension of them. I would’ve enjoyed playing as Wraith too, if possible.
Thing94
Thing94 - 10/31/2023, 3:30 PM
"OP"

???
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 10/31/2023, 3:35 PM
@Thing94 - Over-powered
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/31/2023, 3:30 PM
What's your excuse for removing all the woke shit for the middle east release?
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 10/31/2023, 4:12 PM
@marvel72 - Idk what you're referring to specifically, but it sounds like they're adjusting the content to play better in the ME market. Pretty simple explanation. Same reason different cuts of movies are shipped to different parts in the world. Different cultural sensibilities.
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/31/2023, 5:06 PM
@SheepishOne - So they can't stand by what they are preaching on everyone else.
Mercwitham0uth
Mercwitham0uth - 10/31/2023, 7:39 PM
@marvel72 - It's all about money.
Yankdandy
Yankdandy - 10/31/2023, 8:14 PM
@marvel72 - Exactly. These simp wokesters are the biggest hypocrites in the world. Just like SheepisOne
JayBarrick
JayBarrick - 10/31/2023, 3:32 PM
On one hand, gotta respect that they stood their point and actually tried to improve upon it.

On the other hand, the fact that the public answer includes "I don´t give a s***" (about making her OP) speaks volume about what was actually the force behind this creative choice. If you care more about having a character and making people like it than you care about how it affects your storytelling and gaming experience, you gotta adknowledge that's the literal definition of "forcing" right there.

Again, not saying it can't work, and given the team credit for actually improving it from first game. But credit where is due, for the good and the bad...
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 10/31/2023, 3:36 PM
@JayBarrick - He really should have given more thought to [checks notes] making every part of the game fun, instead of just most.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/31/2023, 3:36 PM
@JayBarrick - the way I see it, they wanted to include other POVs in this world. The worry was less about who they used, just that they tried to improve on it
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 10/31/2023, 3:33 PM
Annoying crybabies.
cyclopstb
cyclopstb - 10/31/2023, 3:56 PM
I enjoy MJ missions in this game now.
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