My Thoughts on THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2(SPOILERS)

My Thoughts on THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2(SPOILERS)

Just finished watching Superman errr I mean Amazing Spider-man 2. With the hype surrounding one of the biggest comic book characters in cinematography, was Amazing Spider-man 2 a success or a failure? Hit the jump to find out my thoughts on the film.

Editorial Opinion
By lanternstorm - Aug 19, 2014 08:08 PM EST

After the success of "The Amazing Spider-man", many hoped that the sequel would be just as good if not better. However, with the muted colors of the costume as well as the lack of character developement and Superman-esq music; the film was a let down, atleast for me. 

What I liked about the film:  

The film had a strong opening, aside from the first few minutes where it focused completely on what happened to Richard and Mary Parker. It seemed as if it was going to be fairly good once you got past the Superman style intro music. We see Spider-Man swinging through the air which was very reminsiont of the Sam Raimi films. After the extended web swinging sequence, we're thrown into an awesome police chase where the future Rhyno has hijacked an Oscorp truck carrying liquifide plutonium. It's reveled that Peter is running late for his Highschool graduation because of this action packed scene. In this scene, we're also introduced to Max Dillon the future Electro, and are given a little bit of a sneak peak at why he becomes the villain he was meant to be. 

Another positive for the film was the internal struggle Peter was challenged by. Aside from not having any narritive by Peter himself, it was also fairly reminiscent of Sam Raimi's version. Through out the film, Peter is haunted by his last memory of Captain Stacy (Gwen's dad), and the promise he made at the end of the first film. However, by the middle of the film it started to become to much. 

The action within the film was incredibly well done. As I said above, The chase scene felt like an adrenoline rush. Seeing Spider-man catch all those containers with his hands, feet and webbing; it looked like something straight out of the comics. Both battles with Electro were pretty epic (the second more than the first). During the first battle with Electro I found it pretty funny when you see Electro send Spidey crashing through a wall and then for the next minute or two it's like "Where's the bug?" Next thing you know, you see Spidey spraying the human lightning bug with a fire hose while wearing a fire fighter's helmet. 

Something I liked that many didn't was the side story involving Peter's parents and making Richard Parker the reason that his son ultimately became Spider-Man. The scene on the air plane however, could have been placed further along into the film so that it had a strong opening with the chase scene. 

My dislikes:

The film quickely opened with the Parker parents on a private plane leaving the United States and then after a slight action sequence, it falls out of the sky with Richard's main concern being sending a file to an unknown person. Then immediatly after this, we're introduced to the Spider symbol with what sounded like Superman music playing. Don't get me wrong, The Magnificent Six did a great job creating that piece but they put it in the wrong film. 

The character developement was severely lacking. I've heard about scenes such as one between Max Dillon and his mother being cut from the film as well as others involving the Green Goblin. Could these scenes have saved the character developement of the film? I doubt it. Being that Harry Osbourne wasn't introduced until almost halfway through the film and the scenes involving Dillon didn't really extend longer than about a minute with the exception of how he became electro. It was very rushed. 

The death of Gwen Stacy. We all knew it was coming. In order for Peter Parker to accept his role as Spider-man, the love of his life had to die. But rather than making The Green Goblin Responsible for her death, Spider-man was in fact the cause. You would think a guy a smart as Peter is suppose to be, would realize "Ok Gwen is falling to her death but if I shoot a web line at her with the way she's falling, I'll snap her neck. So I have to create a web net to catch her in." It was such an anti-climactic scene. The Green Goblin is suppose to be Peter's arch enemy because he's willing to stop at nothing to destroy both Peter and Spider-man. However, even Goblin couldn't have foreseen that Peter would have used a web line rather than a web net to save her. Gwen's death was all on Peter, not Harry. Some would argue that that's what makes Goblin such a great villain, because he's willing to put that death on Peter's conscience rather than take the glory for himself. But as I said, even Goblin couldn't have anticipated that Peter would have tried to save her like that. 

Most of the scenes in which show Spider-man (in costume), we see him standing casually. That's not the Spidey I know. No matter what, Spider-man usually croutches on all fours either in a casual hand over hand way or in attack position with his arms and legs bent as if he were preparing to crawl or jump or hunched over while standing with legs bent and back arched downward. The comics rarely show Spidey standing casually, that's part of his character. We see this in the first battle with electro, as well as the 2nd battle with Electro, the scene where he stops the bullies from picking on the kid and walking the kid home and again in the final battle against Rhyno. I don't know if that was done specifically to keep it from seeming to much like the first three Spider-man movies or unintentionally because the cast and director were unfamiliar with the character, but either way the third film needs to correct this. 

Finally, there was very little conflict between New York citizens over who liked Spidey and who didn't. Sure there were a few scenes that sprinkled this in, but for the most part Spider-man was seen as New York's hero. The way news reports broadcast about him being gone, you would think he was Superman. Another part which ecos this was the scenes between Spider-man and the police. Of course a few of them would view Spidey as a hero but the majority would still be suspicious of him. I'm not sure what Marc Webb was thinking by doing the film this way, but it doesn't work for Spider-man. It's very reminiscent of Spider-man 3 in that way. Making most of the city pro-Spidey, makes him over confident and kind of a douche. We want a hero who has doubts about if he can beat a villain. Doubts about what good he's doing. Doubts about balancing Spider-man and Peter Parker. Spidey has always been the every man, but according to Webb he's not an every man he's a super man. Perhaps Webb should consider taking over for Zack Snyder on the Man of Steel films because we've seen that he can do a Superman movie in his Amazing Spider-man films, but then again he'd probably make Superman more like Spidey so scratch that. GET YOUR HEROES STRAIGHT WEBB! 

Over all I give this film a 3 out of 5 stars. If you haven't seen it yet, I would recomend waiting until it goes into the $5 bin at Walmart. Let's hope Amazing Spider-man 3, which we won't see until an unspecified date in 2018 will be better. 

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Dingbat
Dingbat - 8/19/2014, 8:24 PM
Overall I liked the film but it's not great. Every person in the movie is a cartoon character, especially Rhino and Electro who was Mr. Freeze 2.0 minus the puns. He even looked like him.
Dingbat
Dingbat - 8/19/2014, 8:28 PM
Here's an intersting quote from Giamatti

“He’s a Russian mobster. Russians are always good villains. I have an ability to just destroy things. My accent is pretty hammy. I loved doing it. it seemed to me like an opportunity to be as over-the-top hammy as possible… These things are kind of operatic, so you need big old hammy actors sometimes. But I personally like doing stuff like that and I liked comic books when I was a little kid.”
ScottMontgomery
ScottMontgomery - 8/19/2014, 8:51 PM
I enjoyed parts of The Amazing Spider-Man 2, but overall I think it was handled very poorly... It reeks of to much studio involvement.
lanternstorm
lanternstorm - 8/19/2014, 9:07 PM
@ TheMexicanSuperman - In The Amazing Spider-Man #121 (June 1973), by writer Gerry Conway and penciller Gil Kane, inked by John Romita Sr and Tony Mortellaro, the Green Goblin (Norman Osborn, who has identified Peter Parker as Spider-Man) holds Gwen Stacy captive on a tower of the George Washington Bridge. Spider-Man arrives to fight the Green Goblin. When the Goblin throws Gwen Stacy off the bridge, Spider-Man catches her by her leg with a string of web. He initially thinks he has saved her. After he pulls her back onto the bridge, he realizes she has already died. In shock and anger, Spider-Man nearly kills the Green Goblin in retaliation, but in the end chooses not to do so. But despite his restraint, the Green Goblin seemingly dies anyway when he is impaled by his own goblin glider while attempting to kill Spider-Man. Norman Osborn would not return for nearly three hundred issues. Peter is left wondering if Gwen was dead before the fall or if his attempt to save her by breaking her fall snapped her neck. In the real world, physicist James Kakalios shows in his book The Physics of Superheroes that, consistent with Newton's laws of motion, the sudden stop would have killed Gwen Stacy.[15] The comic book Civil War: Casualties of War: Captain America/Iron Man (2007) concurred that the proximate cause of death was the sudden stop during a high-speed fall. An issue of Peter Parker/Spider-Man revisits the issue, and further confirms Gwen died of a broken neck due to the use of the webbing.[volume & issue needed] Contradictorily, in the fourth issue of Marvels, the police forensic scientist reports that she died from the shock of the fall prior to her neck breaking, placing the blame on the Green Goblin and not Spider-Man.
Dingbat
Dingbat - 8/19/2014, 9:32 PM
@TheMexicanSuperman

Yeah I see it also. I actually just watched Watchmen again today. Great movie.
UltimateCookie
UltimateCookie - 8/20/2014, 12:12 AM
ASM2 has been out for a long time and let me say I didn't like it but I didn't hate it. I had my problems but it can definitely be fixed. The franchise is definitely not dead.
lanternstorm
lanternstorm - 8/20/2014, 7:07 AM
actually ASM2 just came out on dvd and bluray yesterday.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 8/20/2014, 7:11 AM
I really hate TASM 2. Just sucked the joy for my love of Spider-man.
MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 8/20/2014, 7:25 AM
All I'm gonna say is Gwen's death was done the way it was in the comic. If there is anything in this movie that should NOT be complained about, it's that scene.
lanternstorm
lanternstorm - 8/20/2014, 7:41 AM
@MercwithMouth... Really?

EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 8/20/2014, 8:26 AM
Gwen's death is gonna be an iconic moment in cinema for the genre. The scene had tension and once that lest web finally snapped, we knew it was coming the moment movie one ended. The scene was impactful and full of emotion. If ANYTHING, that scene was done Justice without recreating the scene in the comic panel for panel but still had the shock and emotion. Best scene in the entire movie between the tension and Andrew Garfield really had to sell the scene and he truly did. I've never seen an actor with the incredible amount of emotional range than Garfield. It was a truly heartbreaking scene. Yes, the film had it's problems due to the writing but, that scene is by far one of the saving graces of the film.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 8/20/2014, 8:28 AM
The film is nowhere near as bad as many make it out to be *cough* wilding. It's not Spider-Man 3. The couple problems that it does have though, do bother me. But, there is far more good than bad in the film. People just chose to ignore that though.
lanternstorm
lanternstorm - 8/20/2014, 8:32 AM
yes the Gwen's death scene was good but all I could think about during that scene was "Mick? Mick? M Ma Ma Mick... Noooooooooooooo! Mick" Garfield's acting in that scene was exactly the same as Stallone's in Rocky 3 when Mick Died.
MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 8/20/2014, 9:12 AM
@lanternstorm

What is that picture supposed to illustrate? She died the same way in this clip as on that page...

MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 8/20/2014, 9:20 AM
And as far as the acting is corncerned, to be compared to Rocky 3 and Mick's death... That's a massive compliment. Both scenes portray real emotion, it doesn't seem hammy, cheesy, or forced. It's beautiful. One of the most heart-wrenching scenes you'll ever see in a CBM.
lanternstorm
lanternstorm - 8/20/2014, 9:29 AM
actually in the comic, his web caught her leg, in the film it caught her waste which lead to the sudden stop snapping her neck.
themidnightking
themidnightking - 8/20/2014, 11:12 AM
@lanternstorm
*Waist
HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
KoonEl
KoonEl - 8/20/2014, 8:58 PM
The villains kids of sucked in the film with what they were given. They were more developed than the ones in most MCU films however. I really liked everything else about the film.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 8/21/2014, 10:11 AM
@MercwithMouth

I have to say, the death in the movie is way different than the comic for so many reasons, physics, location, how she falls, how Spider-Man catches her, ect.... it's definitely a different interpretation.

The scene looked cool but it was entirely different from the comic and the aftermath of the death is also different and how it affects Peter.... Imo, they totally ruined the death as they did the whole movie and the character of Spider-Man....

But I like Emma Stone
MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 8/21/2014, 10:27 AM
@lanternstorm

So...hitting her in the leg with the web made what difference? Her neck still snapped. I just don't see how they mishandled her death in any way...

@DrKinsolving

Agree to disagree
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 8/21/2014, 10:34 AM
@MercwithMouth

True, to each his own....

My inner nerd comes out when I think about Gwen's death.... There have literally been physics studies about how it was done in the comics, haha

3DOldskool
3DOldskool - 8/21/2014, 11:28 AM
@EdgyOutsider

Gwen's death is gonna be an iconic moment in cinema for the genre. The scene had tension and once that lest web finally snapped, we knew it was coming the moment movie one ended. The scene was impactful and full of emotion. If ANYTHING, that scene was done Justice without recreating the scene in the comic panel for panel but still had the shock and emotion. Best scene in the entire movie between the tension and Andrew Garfield really had to sell the scene and he truly did. I've never seen an actor with the incredible amount of emotional range than Garfield. It was a truly heartbreaking scene.

HAHAHAhahaha.. such a troll comment.
MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 8/21/2014, 11:28 AM
@DrKinsolving

Lol, there is no possible situation I could find myself in, where I would watch that video!
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 8/21/2014, 11:34 AM
@3DOldskool: Actually there was nothing about my comment that even remotely resemble a troll. Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean it's a trollish comment.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 8/21/2014, 11:56 AM
@MercwithMouth

Hahaha, like I said to each his own, and the video is hilarious though for more than one reason....
MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 8/21/2014, 1:22 PM
@EdgyOutsider

"Gwen's death is gonna be an iconic moment in cinema for the genre. The scene had tension and once that lest web finally snapped, we knew it was coming the moment movie one ended. The scene was impactful and full of emotion. If ANYTHING, that scene was done Justice without recreating the scene in the comic panel for panel but still had the shock and emotion. Best scene in the entire movie between the tension and Andrew Garfield really had to sell the scene and he truly did. I've never seen an actor with the incredible amount of emotional range than Garfield. It was a truly heartbreaking scene."

Extremely well said.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 8/21/2014, 1:48 PM
@MercwithMouth

By the way, Did you get a chance to watch the movie yet?
MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 8/21/2014, 1:57 PM
@DrKinsolving

Not yet. I've been checking out clips to get the gist of things...But haven't had time to go rent it just yet. Hopefully this weekend.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 8/21/2014, 2:11 PM
@MercwithMouth

Cool, I thought you saw it, haha, I forgot how many clips they've been posting....
nuyhm7ai
nuyhm7ai - 8/22/2014, 10:32 AM
the question that bothered me though the movies is if sony really wanted to keep the rights to spiderman to keep theur company afloat why do they actually cut out scenes that would made the movies better and puposely make electro a crap villain? like literally all they keep doing is just act like compplete assholes and just hire creators they can just mess around with. that is exactly the opposite of wanting to keep the rights.
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